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What it seemed like had happened, the various dispatchers patched a Westmoreland Countywide Law Tac with a PSP channel, and patched that patch onto the PEMA Westmoreland Interop channel for Trooper 5.
The Fire/EMS service is almost no different. The only few that actually know what the radios can do are the people that program them (like myself) and the guys that also happen to be HAMs as well. Trying to explain to a fire cheif how to change zones when running mutual aid calls is like trying to explain astrophysics to a 5 year old.
Then they're worlds ahead of my area. All the PSP cars have all of our local PD channels (We're still analog for the time being.) in their radios but they never use them and we don't have the capability to patch into PSP so our dispatchers end up playing phone tag with the PSP dispatchers. It gets very frustrating when a large LE response is required like a active shooting or pursuit. Everyone should have the V-TAC/U-TAC/8-TAC channels in their radios for interoperability purposes. PSP has the APX 8500/8000s now so no matter which band the local PD is on they should have it in their radios. Maybe this is all just wishful thinking on my part but it at least makes sense to me.
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I know PSP in Westmoreland has the County talkgroups in their radios, so they can talk to all of the County units. I believe PSP is unencrypted on those talkgroups because of the interop factor, as I have yet to hear encryption on a Westmoreland Countywide Law Tac channel
talviar
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OK... your solution---turn to local channel..... Yeah... uh huh... in the heat of the moment during an active incident....
I use my work radios APX7000 UHFR2/700/800 and APX8000 All band daily... Daily.... and am responsible for maintaining the Fayette portion of ICORRS..... My radios have approximately 80 zones in them covering everything in Western PA I need... (not everything available).... Trying to find a channel in the heat of the moment is not easy..... Been there done that.... quicker to call the other dispatch center on phone.
A patch is a great idea if your center has that capability however mine doesn't have the ability to patch the PSP P25 talkgroup (or the old OpenSky TG) with the local analog channel so PSP changing to the local PD dispatch or a V-TAC/V-LAW channel is the only option for direct communication without the dispatcher phone tag.
I don't really want to devote more time to this than I already did. But, the vast number of state Parole talkgroups had me curious to learn how they are structured. Below is a list derived from public documents online showing the breakdown of field units. GU are "General Unit" teams, or supervised groups, of agents. IPS stands for Institutional Parole Supervisor and those groups are based at (mainly) state prisons. Have at it all you daydreamers. I will also say I saw a job posting once that described the position as one whose job included answering a radio in HQ to handle CLEAN inquiries from field units. So, is that one talkgroup for that function or many? Who knows. Enjoy. I should add that I am not tracking talkgroup usage in my area or anything. I don't really care. I satisfied my curiosity, but figured I'd share what I compiled.
| Central Region Office |
| CRO/Allentown District Office |
| CRO/ADO/GU1 |
| CRO/ADO/GU2 |
| CRO/ADO/GU3 |
| CRO/ADO/GU4 |
| CRO/ADO/GU5 |
| CRO/ADO/Reading Sub Office |
| CRO/ADO/RSO/GU1 |
| CRO/ADO/RSO/GU2 |
| CRO/ADO/RSO/GU3 |
| CRO/ADO/RSO/GU4 |
| CRO/ADO/Wernersville Sub Office |
| CRO/ADO/WSO/GU1 |
| CRO/Harrisburg District Office |
| CRO/HDO/GU1 |
| CRO/HDO/GU2 |
| CRO/HDO/GU3 |
| CRO/HDO/GU4 |
| CRO/HDO/GU5 |
| CRO/HDO/GU6 |
| CRO/HDO/Lancaster Sub Office |
| CRO/HDO/LSO/GU1 |
| CRO/HDO/LSO/GU2 |
| CRO/HDO/LSO/GU3 |
| CRO/HDO/York Sub Office |
| CRO/HDO/YSO/GU1 |
| CRO/HDO/YSO/GU2 |
| CRO/HDO/YSO/GU3 |
| CRO/Scranton DO |
| CRO/SDO/GU1 |
| CRO/SDO/GU2 |
| CRO/SDO/GU3 |
| CRO/SDO/GU4 |
| CRO/SDO/GU5 |
| CRO/SDO/GU6 |
| CRO/Williamsport DO |
| CRO/WDO/GU1 |
| CRO/WDO/GU2 |
| CRO/IPS SCI Benner Twp |
| CRO/IPS SCI Camp Hill |
| CRO/IPS SCI Coal Twp 1 |
| CRO/IPS SCI Coal Twp 2 |
| CRO/IPS SCI Dallas |
| CRO/IPS SCI Muncy |
| CRO/IPS SCI Rockview |
| CRO/IPS SCI Waymart |
| Eastern Region Office |
| ERO/Chester DO |
| ERO/CDO/GU1 |
| ERO/CDO/GU2 |
| ERO/CDO/GU3 |
| ERO/CDO/GU4 |
| ERO/CDO/Norristown Sub Office |
| ERO/CDO/NSO GU1 |
| ERO/CDO/NSO GU2 |
| ERO/CDO/NSO GU3 |
| ERO/Philadelphia DO |
| ERO/PDO/Countywide Division |
| ERO/PDO/CWGU1 |
| ERO/PDO/CWGU2 |
| ERO/PDO/CWGU3 |
| ERO/PDO/Northeast Division |
| ERO/PDO/NEGU1 |
| ERO/PDO/NEGU2 |
| ERO/PDO/NEGU3 |
| ERO/PDO/NEGU4 |
| ERO/PDO/NEGU5 |
| ERO/PDO/NEGU6 |
| ERO/PDO/Northwest Division |
| ERO/PDO/NWGU1 |
| ERO/PDO/NWGU2 |
| ERO/PDO/NWGU3 |
| ERO/PDO/NWGU4 |
| ERO/PDO/NWGU5 |
| ERO/PDO/Specialized Division |
| ERO/PDO/SGU1 |
| ERO/PDO/SGU2 |
| ERO/PDO/SGU3 |
| ERO/PDO/SGU4 |
| ERO/PDO/West Division |
| ERO/PDO/WD/WGU1 |
| ERO/PDO/WD/WGU2 |
| ERO/PDO/WD/WGU3 |
| ERO/PDO/WD/WGU4 |
| ERO/PDO/WD/WGU5 |
| ERO/PDO/MHU1 (from job postings, maybe a Specialized Div unit? "Mental Health Unit?") |
| ERO/PDO/MHU2 (from job postings, maybe a Specialized Div unit? "Mental Health Unit?") |
| ERO/IPS SCI Chester |
| ERO/IPS SCI Frackville |
| ERO/IPS SCI Mahanoy |
| ERO/IPS SCI Phoenix |
| ERO/IPS Phila Co Prisons |
| ERO/IPS Del Co Prison |
| Western Region Office |
| WRO/Altoona DO |
| WRO/ADO/GU1 |
| WRO/ADO/GU2 |
| WRO/ADO/GU3 |
| WRO/ADO/GU4 |
| WRO/Erie DO |
| WRO/EDO/GU1 |
| WRO/EDO/GU2 |
| WRO/EDO/GU3 |
| WRO/EDO/GU4 |
| WRO/Mercer DO |
| WRO/MDO/GU1 |
| WRO/MDO/GU2 |
| WRO/MDO/GU3 |
| WRO/MDO/GU4 |
| WRO/MDO/Butler Sub Office |
| WRO/MDO/BSO GU1 |
| WRO/MDO/BSO GU2 |
| WRO/MDO/Franklin Sub Office |
| WRO/MDO/FSO GU1 |
| WRO/MDO/FSO GU2 |
| WRO/Pittsburgh DO |
| WRO/PDO/GU1 |
| WRO/PDO/GU2 |
| WRO/PDO/GU3 |
| WRO/PDO/GU4 |
| WRO/PDO/GU5 |
| WRO/PDO/Greensburg Sub Office |
| WRO/PDO/GSO GU1 |
| WRO/PDO/GSO GU2 |
| WRO/PDO/North Shore Sub Office |
| WRO/PDO/NSSO GU1 |
| WRO/PDO/NSSO GU2 |
| WRO/PDO/NSSO GU3 |
| WRO/PDO/NSSO GU4 |
| WRO/PDO/NSSO GU5 |
| WRO/IPS SCI Albion |
| WRO/IPS SCI Cambridge Springs |
| WRO/IPS SCI Fayette |
| WRO/IPS SCI Forest |
| WRO/IPS SCI Greene |
| WRO/IPS SCI Mercer |
| WRO/IPS SCI Houtzdale |
| WRO/IPS SCI Huntingdon |
| WRO/IPS SCI Laurel highlands |
| WRO/IPS SCI Pine Grove |
| WRO/IPS Quehanna Boot Camp |
| WRO/IPS SCI Smithfield |
| WRO/IPS SCI Somerset |
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Is there a 3rd statewide system? I heard today that the Office of Attorney General uses their "own" system. There was an Open House at a local EMS station (Near Pittsburgh) and they had the PA OAG Bearcat on display, and there was an "MA-Com" P7200 in the front. Isn't that just an OpenSky radio?
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No. they are probably just saying we have our own private channels that no one else has.
The PA Attorney General's office utilize the Motorola Wave system WAVE Push-To-Talk (PTT) - Motorola Solutions . They were on OpenSky but have migrated off.
smorris
WX3PMC/WQWZ815/MOPA-27
Before OpenSky, A UHF portable was given to one of the troopers operating out of Swiftwater to monitor Monroe Co PD traffic and communicate with those local officers. When PSP went OpenSky, Monroe Co was set up to patch our UHF PD’s to the 800MHz system. Not sure what they do now.
u2brent
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IDK what this is about.. 
1.150-NAC? LANC65? 800 Lancaster City/Lancaster County 856.9125 CC
1.150-NAC? LANC65? 800 Lancaster City/Lancaster County 856.9125 CC
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Maybe it's on the LANC65 or LANC63 tower.IDK what this is about..
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1.150-NAC? LANC65? 800 Lancaster City/Lancaster County 856.9125 CC
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u2brent
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That would be my guess, IDK, Can't pick it up from the southern end where I currently am. Will go on the hunt went I can to see if I can pin it down.
40.01889
-76.3025
LANC65 would be my best guess though.
40.01889
-76.3025
LANC65 would be my best guess though.
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Site: 1.150 ; LANC65 800 Lancaster/Lancaster?
Channel 0-725: 855.5375 CC
Channel 0-945: 856.9125 CC
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u2brent
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I'm pretty sure it's LANC65, Just need to confirm it.
These are associated with that site.
The frequency peaks interest
This one's expired.
FYI, not a neighbor for 1.69 as yet anyway.
These are associated with that site.
The frequency peaks interest
FCC Callsign WQOE236 (Commonwealth of Pennsylvania)
FCC Callsign WQOE236 (Commonwealth of Pennsylvania)
www.radioreference.com
FCC Callsign WQGI294 (PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF)
FCC Callsign WQGI294 (PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF)
www.radioreference.com
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Seems that the 800 MHz STARNet weirdness continues. This one is pending for a new three channel, 300 watt 800 MHz site on Mt Pocono. There is an existing VHF site at MONR03, so this one is a mystery as to why they would build an 800 site so far north of any other 800 site. Not showing up on any neighbor lists in the area yet.
As the ECEN simulcast is Site 48, that leaves just two sites of the 150 site zone limit remaining, 135 and 136, both of which are slated to be 700 AG sites. Unless the commonwealth gets super creative with consolidating some sites into simulcast cells, it seems that they may not have a choice but to add a second zone to the ASTRO 25 system (aka RFSS 2). Time will certainly tell.
As the ECEN simulcast is Site 48, that leaves just two sites of the 150 site zone limit remaining, 135 and 136, both of which are slated to be 700 AG sites. Unless the commonwealth gets super creative with consolidating some sites into simulcast cells, it seems that they may not have a choice but to add a second zone to the ASTRO 25 system (aka RFSS 2). Time will certainly tell.
u2brent
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Could it be that thought about BUCK40 700 not becoming a PII site is true 😎 (at least not as an RFSS 1 site anyway)
Could the 800Mhz site be for interop with agencies in NJ?
Do you happen to know where I can find the frequencies for the ECEN simulcast? I've tried the FCC database and can't seem to find anything.