do you know if lycoming is set with a certian dealer for paging i work for a dealer we sell pagers for the p25We're staying VHF here!
I dont know what the plan is for paging after P25
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Good probability that TG5001 is PA ISSI ICORRS 1. There's possibility of 5 total ISSI TG's for ICORRS, but I can't confirm.
Way back when the OpenSky could not provide coverage in the parks. They installed a mobile VHF repeater in the vehicles to link OpenSky to the legacy VHF system. It appears that OpenSky may not be totally dead (sort of). Some of the Pymatuning support staff is still using the OpenSky radios which are linked to a mobile VHF repeater in their vehicle. So of course the OpenSky system is gone. The radios do still function to link them into the VHF repeater in their vehicle and then to the repeater at the park. I guess the HTs transmit on a simplex 800 analog freq. I believe that any vehicle that has a VHF and OpenSky antenna would be capable of this operation.
OpenSky radios or just Harris P7100 portables? DCNR had both Harris P7100 OpenSky portables and P7100 VHF analog portables. Some staff would only be issued the VHF portables whiles others got OpenSky radios. The VHF-OpenSky patches were used to allow users on one or the other to communicate. The VHF portables still serve a purpose in areas that are relying on simplex or repeater VHF analog.
There is not a similar arrangement on the P25 system. New Motorola radios are programmed with both P25 talkgroups and legacy analog simplex or repeater channels and each park is using what works best for them based on coverage. At some point in the future, there could be enhancements made to provide talkgroup coverage in specific parks that currently lack good portable coverage...but that might not happen for a long time.
If someone is so inclined, we could modify the wiki here to better track what parks seems to be using what options. I had thought of converting the listings to a table with the park names, a column showing the P25 talkgroup, and then a column showing VHF if it is in use. I just haven't devoted the time to modifying the wiki significantly. I did bold park facilities that have, at least at some point, been documented on P25 talkgroups. Seems a few of those may not be using the talkgroups as their primary means of communication, but any park or complex that is bold has at least been heard on P25 a few times.
Department of Conservation and Natural Resources (PA) - The RadioReference Wiki
Department of Conservation and Natural Resources (PA) - The RadioReference Wiki
I guess that is possible, I looked up the P7100 radio and the antenna on the one I saw sure looked more like the 800mhz version . Also the fact that the Opensky mobile radio was ON was the other thing that made me curious. Hopefully I will get another look this summer now that I have the information you gave me. I can be more certain of what I am looking at. BTW the DCNR Law Enforcement folks do have the new P25 Motorola radios which as you say are being used on an analog VHF repeater.
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First Energy on the same tower sites as the rest of the P25?
10078 and 10079 getting pretty heavy use earlier today before the Pocono race. I assume it’ll pick up again soon once the race ends.
I don’t know if other parts of the state have been using those much but that was the first time I’ve noticed them in use in this part of the state.
I don’t know if other parts of the state have been using those much but that was the first time I’ve noticed them in use in this part of the state.
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Is there a listing anywhere of what TGs have been found to be global even if there isnt a radio on each site that is currently affiliated on that channel. Like are the global interop and PEMA TGs broadcast statewide or only on sites with a subscriber unit affiliated on them?
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The "global" interop talkgroups are named that way because they are available in every radio on the system. Just like all the other talkgroups, though, they only appear on sites where there is an affiliated radio requesting the talkgroup. I have not yet seen any system talkgroups broadcasting anywhere without a radio requesting the talkgroup.
The only talkgroup where I've noted odd behavior has been PSP Air 1. There were some times in the past where my logging software showed the talkgroup appearing with no evidence of an affiliated radio. Ultimately, I chalked that up to incomplete decode data since I have confirmed missing affiliations and PTTs while using the pro96com software.
New 800 Mhz site added to WRAD357 ( ULS Application - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked - 0010576790 - PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF - Locations Summary )
LACK33 - Scranton, PA (Lackawanna) - BALD MOUNTAIN RANSOM TWP
+41°25' 36.0", -75° 44' 51.0"
854.0375
854.3875
854.6875
LACK33 - Scranton, PA (Lackawanna) - BALD MOUNTAIN RANSOM TWP
+41°25' 36.0", -75° 44' 51.0"
854.0375
854.3875
854.6875
When we discussed this with the state at our board meeting in January, we decided that there would be five unencrypted ISSI talkgroups on STARNet: ISSI H (for county hailing), and ISSI 1 - ISSI 4 for interoperable communications. There has also been some testing for at least two encrypted ISSI talkgroups for law enforcement crosspatching. I seem to remember the original discussions last year or two years ago would be to have a total of 8 ISSI talkgroups mapped on both sides. I will have to check when I get back to work tomorrow to see which talkgroups on the ICORRS side are assigned to the gateway.
Confirmed today, these are the ISSI ICORRS/STARNet talkgroups:
| ID | Alias |
|---|---|
| 5000 | PA ISSI ICORRS H (Hailing) |
| 5001 | PA ISSI ICORRS 1 |
| 5002 | PA ISSI ICORRS 2 |
| 5003 | PA ISSI ICORRS 3 |
| 5004 | PA ISSI ICORRS 4 |
These are configured on the ICORRS side with a "No Sites" site access profile, meaning they can't be programmed into subscribers, but are accessible from the consoles. They are also configured as Clear only talkgroups, so no encryption on these. Additionally, several other PSP STARNet talkgroups are configured to be carried on the Westmoreland-only sites of ICORRS using the ISSI interface:
| ID | Alias |
|---|---|
| 10001 | SP SW |
| 10011 | SP TROOP A |
| 10012 | SP A TAC 1 |
| 10013 | SP A TAC 2 |
| 10015 | SP TROOP B |
| 10016 | SP B TAC 1 |
| 10017 | SP B TAC 2 |
| 10076 | SP BCIS TAC 1 |
| 10101 | SP GREENSBURG |
| 10104 | SP KISKI VALLEY |
| 10108 | SP BELLE VERNN |
Neat. Maybe I can make more use of the old cellular antenna to the SDS100 when there's snow storms.
Keep an eye out for more new talkgroups. It appears the state OAG has finally rolled out some equipment on the new system. 195xxxx RIDS. Pretty sure they'll be encrypted like most other law enforcement on the system, but I haven't seen any PTTs to confirm that as of yet.
Also, keep an eye out for a new county coming on the system in the next 1-2 months.
What county is adding on?