East Greenbush Dispatch is doing their paging and siren testing. try 858.9625 for your control channel. and if using a unication G4/G5 pager you wont lock onto the system as its phase 2 and the pagers are phase 1 only at this time.
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Are you saying the voice traffic you are hearing is now Phase 2?
Just because it's broadcasting Phase 2 capable has nothing to do with the ability to lock on to it on the Unication, or the actual voice traffic mode (which can be Phase 1 on a Phase 2 capable or mixed system). My G5 is locked on the CC (859.4625) right now...I have it in monitor mode to see what I hear.
On and off I have seen Phase II traffic. If you wouldn't could you send me a screen shot or your codeplug to see what you have different then I do? I'm less than 8 miles from the closest tower and haven't had any luck picking up the control channel. I have mine setup as a trunk system on scan and monitor.
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Assuming you have plain coverage, and unless you are behind a hill or something, you probably would there. So it's simulcast distortion probably...you are hearing multiple tower sites. And if they are this close to transition, I would imagine that all the transmit sites are on the air and have been coverage tested already. So the way it is now is the way it would be. You could try a yagi antenna if you haven't already.
The EGB digital is likely just one transmit site and therefore no simulcast distortion.
So you are showing out of range? Because the G4/G5 will eventually show as out of range if it doesn't see the control channel. For example, for the Mass P25 system (which I can not hear here), it says "Scanning..." for about 30 seconds then shows "Out of Range".
Assuming your G5 is on the Albany system, it's about the same setup for Rens Co P25. Just make the system ID "86B", and the 4 control channels, 859.4625, 858.9625, 858.4625, 859.9625. (WACN is BEE00, site and RFSS are 1).
Make sure you have 859.4625 in there because that is what the CC is right now (not the freq you mentioned in your post).
After some checking of the wcan and system of I found my error to be in the system is I had it as a "c" not "b". Even some of the knowledgeables screw up.
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This is crazy. The Hampton Manor tower on Ridge Rd in E Greenbush is a line of site across the river from me. If I stood on a step ladder and looked over in that direction I could probably see the tower. Maybe 5 miles tops. So the simulcast distortion will probably block me (unless I get a yagi) from hearing it because as of right now, while locked on tg 1000 my display says searching for the control channel. Every once in a while it will show the sys ID but not too often. I don't think that I'll be the only one having trouble monitoring this system with a scanner. The multi-net stunk but I Never had this problem with 46.10 :/
Unfortunately there is a big problem with scanners and simulcast P25. It really varies from scanner to scanner, system to system, location to location, but they generally do a really poor job. Lots of threads on RR about that. One of the most basic things you can do is play with your antenna system...more antenna, less antenna (try a paperclip...I'm serious!), a directional antenna (yagi). Also try opening your squelch all the way.
The Unication G4 or G5 do really well with simulcast P25 (as do the real system radios) so that is an option if you can afford another radio and the system stays Phase 1.
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DaveNF2G
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I don't think Hampton Manner is live yet. I'm in Rensselaer and the CC signal is still only about 2 bars on my scanner. The SDRs with SDRSharp have a hard time holding a lock.
As for paging. They are now using 155.655/94.8 and I am no longer hearing transmissions on the old sheriff repeater input.
As for paging. They are now using 155.655/94.8 and I am no longer hearing transmissions on the old sheriff repeater input.
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TG 1004 is indeed East Greenbush dispatch, confirmed during discovery with my scanner the other day.
TG 1004 is indeed East Greenbush dispatch, confirmed during discovery with my scanner the other day.
Tac 10(110) in use
fire dispatch (1000)in use
Alert(1007) in use
And Ems Dispatch (1002) in use
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System is working GREAT. Was visiting a friend in city of Rensselaer, in the man cave which is below grade in his basement. Receiving great on my G5. Could even hear when I unscrewed antenna. While on the road G5 held the system on drive up to Saratoga Springs without a problem. I seems any receiving problems are related to consumer grade scanners and not radios built to commercial specs, such as Unication, Motorola, Harris etc . . .
onsceno
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For those interested, their paging frequency has tremendously improved talk-out... dispatches heard on portable from Kingston where I would have inconsistencies on low band even right in DelCo.
Wow that's amazing that you can hear them booming in kingston
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If anyone in the area is looking to buy a Unication G5 VHF/800 P25 radio there is a local dealer. They have all the data for the local 800 systems, and more. They will even program it for you. Be mindful that this is not a consumer grade scanner but is a professional commercial grade unit. Is not affected by multi site problems like the scanners that are out there. I love mine ! Give the owner Mike a call at Northway Communications, 56 South St, Glen's Falls. (518) 792-7077.
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DaveNF2G
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Did the system get turned off this week, or are they just not working on it because of the holiday?
Last week in my office in downtown Albany, my 436 was picking up all sorts of traffic. At home this week in Rensselaer, the control signal is there weakly, but no conversations.
Last week in my office in downtown Albany, my 436 was picking up all sorts of traffic. At home this week in Rensselaer, the control signal is there weakly, but no conversations.
I think they are taking a few days off due to the holiday. But you should be hearing fire and ems traffic as the system is now completely "live".
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vikingegfd
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Sorry but I cannot answer the question about the system this morning, I've learned never to use the "q" word or make statements that use the beginning "It's been awhile since ---".
Actually I think you may have jinxed the county based on all the calls my scanner has been picking up since noon time.
Actually I think you may have jinxed the county based on all the calls my scanner has been picking up since noon time.
Interesting note, I'm hearing all county transmissions loud and clear digital (Fire/EMS on 857.9625 NAC 861.
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