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Fresh of Site 17
 

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Only changes found, compared to 027C00's map (my most recent) are on Site 16 (LCN 5 & 7), FWIW
 

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It still shows 463.6125 as Site 16 LCN 8 although that frequency is now the CC for the new TIII system. LCNs 1,2 3, & 6 seem to be the only ones active at the site.
 

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I already have v027C01, dated 5/15/2020. If anything had changed, the map would've had a different version #. :unsure:

 

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I already have v027C01, dated 5/15/2020. If anything had changed, the map would've had a different version #. :unsure:

Oops, I didn't realize I already shared C01 on here too.... interesting, oh well, my bad! I just got excited because I snagged a "new" map. Thats why they pay you the big bucks lol!
 

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Oops, I didn't realize I already shared C01 on here too.... interesting, oh well, my bad! I just got excited because I snagged a "new" map. Thats why they pay you the big bucks lol!
All good, just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking anything when the file compare returned identical results lol
 

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Okay, I'm trying not to mess this up again and post something old again lol, but, this one is fresh off the air! Haven't seen a 027C04 yet! A quick look shows more frequencies to Lancaster site, and the addition of Site 26. Per Saia's website, Site 26 is on Grand Island. A quick check, nothing new coming in on those CC frequencies
 

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Okay, I'm trying not to mess this up again and post something old again lol, but, this one is fresh off the air! Haven't seen a 027C04 yet! A quick look shows more frequencies to Lancaster site, and the addition of Site 26. Per Saia's website, Site 26 is on Grand Island. A quick check, nothing new coming in on those CC frequencies
Before you rush to program changes from the list, be aware, as before, Site 16 shows the 463.6125 new TIII system CC as still LCN8 on this system. I assume that is true on other TIII sites also. If you program it, the scanner may assume it is the Con+ CC and you will hear nothing.

Also be aware that not all frequencies in the Map are necessarily active at a site. RRDB submissions and programming should be confirmed by monitoring.
 

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Before you rush to program changes from the list, be aware, as before, Site 16 shows the 463.6125 new TIII system CC as still LCN8 on this system. I assume that is true on other TIII sites also. If you program it, the scanner may assume it is the Con+ CC and you will hear nothing.

Also be aware that not all frequencies in the Map are necessarily active at a site. RRDB submissions and programming should be confirmed by monitoring.
Too late. I actually had difficulty getting DSD to track/follow the Repeater Map. I had to actually put it in passive mode, and toggle through the channels of Site 1 until I finally got it to hit. Once it saved, edited my frequency file, I was able to follow the TG's with no issues again. Fortunately for me, Site 16 is way out of range from my location. I was going to monitor the system over the next week or so and verify each CC/VC on the sites I can get actually line up/are active, and then submit the DB changes, if applicable. I don't know if something changed over the last few days and I missed it, or I just jacked up my frequency file some how. My frequency file was the map that was before it... C01 I believe, but I could be wrong there too.
 

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I find it is best to first compare a new Repeater Map against previous versions to see what changed before you compare it to the RRDB. If something on the previous version of the Map is also not in the RRDB it is probably because it was determined to not be in actual use. I have gone through this a few times with Site 16 about the listed LCNs in the Map that are not in actual use. Now there is the additional complication of listed LCNs now changed to TIII.
 

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463.6125 which had been the Site 116 CC is now back as LCN 8 on SaiaNet Site 16 so I have to add it back to the Saia Net LCN/LSN lists.
I also see Site 102 CC 454.6625 is now back as Saia Net Site 2 LCN 6 so I have to add that back to SaiaNet also.
I had to delete these while the were TIII CCs or the scanner thought they were the Con+ CC.
 

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Fresh off Site 8 this morning, just a quick glance, looks like some of 26's frequencies are from the Passport system. Not sure if that is still up, I'll try and monitor/check into that in the coming days
 

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Site 26 is reporting as neighbors on Site 1, 10, 23, 8 and 4, but, no activity on the listed CC's from the repeater map for Site 26. But, its closer! Must be going live soon. I guess keep your eyes peeled on 424.8500, 424.4125, 424.6000 and 424.6375
 

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I've got solid Con+ CC from site 26 on 424.8500 this evening. I thought I'd be reporting old news but perhaps not, in this thread at least. Neighbor list reporting 1, 8, 10, 15, 23.
 

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Site 26 is active with regular voice traffic and indicating the 4 frequency assignments as shown in the RR database.
 

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Repeater map v27C07 being sent on site 26 (at least I assume) this morning.
 

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Repeater map v27C07 being sent on site 26 (at least I assume) this morning.

OK question for the collective. I *thought* I knew how this worked, but perhaps not!

My understanding is that the control channel for a DMR Connect Plus system hands out LCN numbers only, not frequencies (as a P25 system does), so to monitor such a system using a scanner you have to program all the frequencies with the correct LCN numbers. Yes? No?

If that is the case, then I am confused as to why the site map is showing twelve frequencies/LCN pairs for the Rochester site (16) yet the RR database only lists six, and not even the first six. Is this due to the normal RR rule of "only things personally observed get listed", or is there something else going on that I don't understand?

Thanks!
 
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