SDR-Trunk Errors & Silence, Missed Calls with "MAX TRAFFIC CHANNELS EXCEEDED" on versions 0.6.1-BETA-2, BETA-3, master-release, as of March 4 2025

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Summary: I re-installed Windows on one of my two main scanning machines, and so I also installed a newer version of SDRTrunk - Version 0.6.1-Beta-3. I found myself hearing traffic for a minute or two, sometimes 5, and then nothing. Silence. Meanwhile, in the other room I could hear traffic on the same network going steady. I look and noticed a bunch of errors:

"MAX TRAFFIC CHANNELS EXCEEDED" (Present on Events tab with no filters turned on)

The machine that was still decoding and scanning traffic on the same P25 network was running SDRTrunk 0.6.1-Beta-1 instead of a later version.

With a server that has multiple dongles, you may not notice any significant drop outs, because the exponential amount of bandwidth you have to absorb the stuck open channels is enough... however anyone running 1 or even 2 dongles will likely have noticed big chunks of missed calls and silence due to this weird issue. So far, I've only noted this condition on P25 networks, and code review appears to point to the P25 sections as likely culprits who's code was changed heavily between beta-1 and beta-2. Search engines (Google/DDG/Etc) are beginning to be filled with reports of this error popping up everywhere, because this is a real issue and a bunch of people are starting to feel the impacts. So far, this appears to be mostly P25 but if you're having this issue on another network I'd love to hear from you.

For anyone having this or other mysterious missing calls, I would strongly recommend that downgrading to v0.6.1-beta-1 be part of your testing process, because so far I've found it works and fixes 100% of the individuals I've helped with issues like this.

Hardware: RTL-SDR (Mine is v5 but this affects all versions and likely other dongles..)
Software Affected: 0.6.1-beta-2, 0.6.1-beta-3. 0.6.1-master AKA 0.6.1 (Final)
Software Not Affected: 0.6.1-beta-1 (https://github.com/DSheirer/sdrtrun...-1/sdr-trunk-windows-x86_64-v0.6.1-beta-1.zip)

Again, TL;DR if you're having issues that seemed to have come out of nowhere over the past few weeks/months or after a software update/Windows re-install, you might want to test downgrading your sdrtrunk to 0.6.1-beta-1 until this is acknowledged as an issue and resolved.
 

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Summary: I re-installed Windows on one of my two main scanning machines, and so I also installed a newer version of SDRTrunk - Version 0.6.1-Beta-3. I found myself hearing traffic for a minute or two, sometimes 5, and then nothing. Silence. Meanwhile, in the other room I could hear traffic on the same network going steady. I look and noticed a bunch of errors:

"MAX TRAFFIC CHANNELS EXCEEDED" (Present on Events tab with no filters turned on)

The machine that was still decoding and scanning traffic on the same P25 network was running SDRTrunk 0.6.1-Beta-1 instead of a later version.

With a server that has multiple dongles, you may not notice any significant drop outs, because the exponential amount of bandwidth you have to absorb the stuck open channels is enough... however anyone running 1 or even 2 dongles will likely have noticed big chunks of missed calls and silence due to this weird issue. So far, I've only noted this condition on P25 networks, and code review appears to point to the P25 sections as likely culprits who's code was changed heavily between beta-1 and beta-2. Search engines (Google/DDG/Etc) are beginning to be filled with reports of this error popping up everywhere, because this is a real issue and a bunch of people are starting to feel the impacts. So far, this appears to be mostly P25 but if you're having this issue on another network I'd love to hear from you.

For anyone having this or other mysterious missing calls, I would strongly recommend that downgrading to v0.6.1-beta-1 be part of your testing process, because so far I've found it works and fixes 100% of the individuals I've helped with issues like this.

Hardware: RTL-SDR (Mine is v5 but this affects all versions and likely other dongles..)
Software Affected: 0.6.1-beta-2, 0.6.1-beta-3. 0.6.1-master AKA 0.6.1 (Final)
Software Not Affected: 0.6.1-beta-1 (https://github.com/DSheirer/sdrtrun...-1/sdr-trunk-windows-x86_64-v0.6.1-beta-1.zip)

Again, TL;DR if you're having issues that seemed to have come out of nowhere over the past few weeks/months or after a software update/Windows re-install, you might want to test downgrading your sdrtrunk to 0.6.1-beta-1 until this is acknowledged as an issue and resolved.

I run an Airspy mini and a dongle on one machine, and an Airspy R2 on another machine with 0.6.1 Final and have never had a single issue with MAX TRAFFIC CHANNELS EXCEEDED. Of course, in my "Channel" configuration for each of those P25 systems, I actually set the Max Traffic Channel to N-1, where N is the number of frequencies in use on the system. The "1" is the CC, so I set Max Traffic to N-1.

The Max Traffic Channels Exceeded should only have to do with there being more active voice channels than you have accounted for in your Max Traffic Channels setting.
 

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I run an Airspy mini and a dongle on one machine, and an Airspy R2 on another machine with 0.6.1 Final and have never had a single issue with MAX TRAFFIC CHANNELS EXCEEDED. Of course, in my "Channel" configuration for each of those P25 systems, I actually set the Max Traffic Channel to N-1, where N is the number of frequencies in use on the system. The "1" is the CC, so I set Max Traffic to N-1.

The Max Traffic Channels Exceeded should only have to do with there being more active voice channels than you have accounted for in your Max Traffic Channels setting.

If its phase 2, wouldn’t you have to use (N*2)-1 ?
 

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If its phase 2, wouldn’t you have to use (N*2)-1 ?

@jtwalker

I don't think so. I don't think so, but I guess it's possible. I guess that's one for @DSheirer to answer. I only monitor Phase I P25 systems.

Point is, the OP can/should set the Max Traffic Channels higher than what he/she currently has them set at. If they are set correctly, he/she isn't going to get an error about Max Traffic Channels Exceeded.

Max Traffic Channels - this value places a limit on the maximum number of traffic channels that sdrtrunk will create when it is decoding a trunked system so that sdrtrunk doesn't create more processing workload than your computer can handle. This value defaults to three. You can set this equal to the number of repeater channels identified for the site, if your computer has enough processing power to decode all of those channels at the same time.

To me "repeater channels" are frequencies. And if that is the case, then it's N-1.
 

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I run an Airspy mini and a dongle on one machine, and an Airspy R2 on another machine with 0.6.1 Final and have never had a single issue with MAX TRAFFIC CHANNELS EXCEEDED. Of course, in my "Channel" configuration for each of those P25 systems, I actually set the Max Traffic Channel to N-1, where N is the number of frequencies in use on the system. The "1" is the CC, so I set Max Traffic to N-1.

The Max Traffic Channels Exceeded should only have to do with there being more active voice channels than you have accounted for in your Max Traffic Channels setting.
I would normally agree with you and chalk this up to just another ID-10-T issue. But all I have to do is revert back to Beta-1 and everything is fine again.
 

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Summary: I re-installed Windows on one of my two main scanning machines, and so I also installed a newer version of SDRTrunk - Version 0.6.1-Beta-3. I found myself hearing traffic for a minute or two, sometimes 5, and then nothing. Silence. Meanwhile, in the other room I could hear traffic on the same network going steady. I look and noticed a bunch of errors:

"MAX TRAFFIC CHANNELS EXCEEDED" (Present on Events tab with no filters turned on)

The machine that was still decoding and scanning traffic on the same P25 network was running SDRTrunk 0.6.1-Beta-1 instead of a later version.

With a server that has multiple dongles, you may not notice any significant drop outs, because the exponential amount of bandwidth you have to absorb the stuck open channels is enough... however anyone running 1 or even 2 dongles will likely have noticed big chunks of missed calls and silence due to this weird issue. So far, I've only noted this condition on P25 networks, and code review appears to point to the P25 sections as likely culprits who's code was changed heavily between beta-1 and beta-2. Search engines (Google/DDG/Etc) are beginning to be filled with reports of this error popping up everywhere, because this is a real issue and a bunch of people are starting to feel the impacts. So far, this appears to be mostly P25 but if you're having this issue on another network I'd love to hear from you.

For anyone having this or other mysterious missing calls, I would strongly recommend that downgrading to v0.6.1-beta-1 be part of your testing process, because so far I've found it works and fixes 100% of the individuals I've helped with issues like this.

Hardware: RTL-SDR (Mine is v5 but this affects all versions and likely other dongles..)
Software Affected: 0.6.1-beta-2, 0.6.1-beta-3. 0.6.1-master AKA 0.6.1 (Final)
Software Not Affected: 0.6.1-beta-1 (https://github.com/DSheirer/sdrtrun...-1/sdr-trunk-windows-x86_64-v0.6.1-beta-1.zip)

Again, TL;DR if you're having issues that seemed to have come out of nowhere over the past few weeks/months or after a software update/Windows re-install, you might want to test downgrading your sdrtrunk to 0.6.1-beta-1 until this is acknowledged as an issue and resolved.
I described this bug and what causes it at Bug of endless Max Traffic Channels Exceeded
P.S. I also described another unrelated bug Bug of illogical Sorting in the Channels table
I would guess that Dennis, the developer, is aware of these and other bugs and working to fix them, eventually.
 

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I described this bug and what causes it at Bug of endless Max Traffic Channels Exceeded
P.S. I also described another unrelated bug Bug of illogical Sorting in the Channels table
I would guess that Dennis, the developer, is aware of these and other bugs and working to fix them, eventually.

Does sound like a bug. But hey, wouldn't the "workaround" be to simply make sure you've got enough bandwidth through available devices to cover all of the frequencies you are wanting to monitor? Sounds like it to me. Granted, doesn't fix the bug -- but I'd think if it were me I'd have bigger issues if I didn't have enough bandwidth to cover all that I want to monitor. I'd be fixing that first.
 

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Yep, it is not a Show-Stopper, but I hope that a bug that wasn't there before will be fixed in the near future.
In previous version the program did not freeze from a lack of bandwidth. Now it can get stuck with this issue.
 

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Haven't had a nightly build that would run on any of 3 computers since the Dec. 6th nightly. Everything else freezes as soon as a p25 channel keys up, and window says "Not Responding". Even today's nightly release. Only conventional channels work.
 

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Haven't had a nightly build that would run on any of 3 computers since the Dec. 6th nightly. Everything else freezes as soon as a p25 channel keys up, and window says "Not Responding". Even today's nightly release. Only conventional channels work.
I would, if you haven't already, get into the Google group and ask about it there. Denny and others reply pretty quickly if you are having issues. I run the current v0.6.1 build 24/7 since it came out on a Win 10 machine and have not had any issues.

Jeff
 

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I would, if you haven't already, get into the Google group and ask about it there. Denny and others reply pretty quickly if you are having issues. I run the current v0.6.1 build 24/7
V0.6.1 build 24/7 works, the recent nightly builds since after 12/6/24 are the one that lock up.

Last time I questioned something on RR, Denny bit my head off (even though I was right about the problem) so doubt I will be asking him, might try the Google group and see what they say.
 

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V0.6.1 build 24/7 works, the recent nightly builds since after 12/6/24 are the one that lock up.

Last time I questioned something on RR, Denny bit my head off (even though I was right about the problem) so doubt I will be asking him, might try the Google group and see what they say.
In my experience, Denny has always gone above and beyond my expectations when responding to questions or fixing issues.
 

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After reading the Google group, seems I'm not the only one having the problem, so will just wait till it gets fixed and keep running the the 12-6-24 version.
 
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