SDS100/SDS200: SDS 100/200 Motorola Type II public beta

[ssinglet]

Joe,

Thank you for the latest beta firmware and sub CPU (all filters are set to auto). I installed both on mu SDS100 and the Charles County (MD) Smart Net system is coming in loud and clear the modulation is using 4FSK and the D-error rates of 0 to 10. the only tile it went digital it was not the radios fault as the dispatch to the unit they went digital. as for the MD FIRST (P25) it is using IQ and D-rate 0 to 6.

My next question is, is there a way to force a modulation (IQ or FSK) to see if one or the other is performing better on the unit?

 

[ssinglet]

Quick update for the Charles County (MD) Smart Net system for the analog channels it is using IQ and sounds better than the 1.21.00 firmware

 

[ctiller]

I'm having decoding issues on the Atlanta, GA system in IQ mode still compared to previous versions

 

[JoeBearcat]

My next question is, is there a way to force a modulation (IQ or FSK) to see if one or the other is performing better on the unit?

No. It is automatic. (I already asked that a few days ago)

 

[JoeBearcat]

I'm having decoding issues on the Atlanta, GA system in IQ mode still compared to previous versions

Link to system involved? Can you specify the issues?

 

[ctiller]

Atlanta Public Safety P25 Trunking System, Atlanta, Georgia

Atlanta Public Safety P25 Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

This is the system. My trouble is the scanner seems to pick up only maybe half what it used to. This is a very busy system. Today I'm listening and it will stop on a talkgroup and stay there quite a while, but no audio and no unit ID even (that's new since uploading the beta). Data will show on the display when it stops on a talkgroup and has no audio for a bit. I've never noticed that in the past. Otherwise I seem to get a lot more garbled and distorted transmissions. This is in IQ mode still

 

[JoeBearcat]

Atlanta Public Safety P25 Trunking System, Atlanta, Georgia

Atlanta Public Safety P25 Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

This is the system. My trouble is the scanner seems to pick up only maybe half what it used to. This is a very busy system. Today I'm listening and it will stop on a talkgroup and stay there quite a while, but no audio and no unit ID even (that's new since uploading the beta). Data will show on the display when it stops on a talkgroup and has no audio for a bit. I've never noticed that in the past. Otherwise I seem to get a lot more garbled and distorted transmissions. This is in IQ mode still

That is a simulcast system and the 996 series is not designed to work with those in all cases. I think I read that this is using a 996P2. Is that correct or am I mixing up two issues?

If it is a 996P2, there could have been a change that is unrelated to the firmware that is causing the issue.

To confirm, the scanner is showing that it is using IQ? (which I guess would confirm that we are talking about an SDS)

 

[ctiller]

That is a simulcast system and the 996 series is not designed to work with those in all cases. I think I read that this is using a 996P2. Is that correct or am I mixing up two issues?

If it is a 996P2, there could have been a change that is unrelated to the firmware that is causing the issue.

To confirm, the scanner is showing that it is using IQ? (which I guess would confirm that we are talking about an SDS)

not sure where 996P2 came from but this is on the SDS200

 

[JoeBearcat]

not sure where 996P2 came from but this is on the SDS200

It must have come from another thread (issue). I work on several at a time.

It seems you are one of two people with issues and the other guy I think is not running the latest firmware. He refuses to say which version he is using. So, I suspect what is going on with your reception may not be firmware-related.

Can you try a different SD card? There have been past decode issues that a different card resolved. I suspect I know why, but I'm not sure.

 

[Erich90]

Just updated to v1.03.04 on my SDS100 and the Richmond/Henrico/Chesterfield Motorola Type II SmartZone is coming in great now. Went from no reception after 3-4 seconds of audio before the update to loud and clear with decode error between 0-5 consistently with v1.03.04. It is using 4FSK modulation.

 

[JoeBearcat]

I just got word that a regular firmware push will happen soon.

 

[ctiller]

I can try it, but it seems to be a big coincidence that reception degradation would occur as soon as I changed the firmware unless it's something to do with the files and certain SD cards.

 

[JoeBearcat]

Please do, as yours seems to be the only credible report of issues.

It's akin to "The light bulb went out as soon as I turned the switch on, so the switch must be bad'.
(don't read anything snarky into that)

 

[ctiller]

Please do, as yours seems to be the only credible report of issues.

It's akin to "The light bulb went out as soon as I turned the switch on, so the switch must be bad'.
(don't read anything snarky into that)

i'll give it a shot and let you know

 

[ctiller]

Please do, as yours seems to be the only credible report of issues.

It's akin to "The light bulb went out as soon as I turned the switch on, so the switch must be bad'.
(don't read anything snarky into that)

also I agree with your quote, but let's say you tried 2 bulbs and they both blew when you turned on the switch? (i've tried 2 new firmwares in the last 2 months)..what would you say then?

 

[JoeBearcat]

also I agree with your quote, but let's say you tried 2 bulbs and they both blew when you turned on the switch? (i've tried 2 new firmwares in the last 2 months)..what would you say then?

I still would not suspect the switch. The irony is that I actually have had that scenario!

As for firmware, only the latest ones count for this issue.

 

[JoeBearcat]

Well, we are down to ONE credible negative report. The other complainant hasn't had a scanner in over a week but complained about how bad the latest firmware is on his system in the last few days. Does anyone see the problem here? This is the downside of public beta. At least all the input in this thread has been legitimate and is much appreciated. One issue left to solve.

 

[Ensnared]

What the Hell is public beta? Does this mean it still has bugs to be ironed out?

 

[JoeBearcat]

Basically, yes. And in this case it worked very well. Some bugs are rather obscure.

This was not the first public beta and unless there is a major issue about it I expect it will not be the last.

The benefit is that if you don't want to try it, nobody is forcing it upon you.

 

[werinshades]

Basically, yes. And in this case it worked very well. Some bugs are rather obscure.

This was not the first public beta and unless there is a major issue about it I expect it will not be the last.

The benefit is that if you don't want to try it, nobody is forcing it upon you.

I see we have a new public release Sub CPU 1.03.05

https://info.uniden.com/twiki/bin/view/UnidenMan4/SDS100FirmwareUpdate

https://info.uniden.com/twiki/bin/view/UnidenMan4/SDS200FirmwareUpdate