SDS100 Prerelease Discussion

[Markb]

Any chance I could get a testing/evaluation unit to evaluate the feasibility of internal GPS installation?

That would be cool. I love having the GPS integral to the 436. I am really uneasy about voiding the warranty on a $700 radio. Are you going to crack it open, assuming you buy one?

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[lou9155]

ill wait for the desktop model..i noticed the audio is very weak..just like my 436

 

[10-75]

Is there going to be a drop-in charger? I hope so....

 

[mule1075]

Is their going to be a drop-in charger? I hope so....

Read post #84 for your answer.

 

[lu81fitter]

As a few others have said here, I'm hoping for a base/mobile model as well. I don't often carry a portable around. Occasionally, I will take it to an event where I can hear coms there, like races or other competitive events. I ALWAYS listen in my car or truck when mobile and at home. Sorry if this deviates from the "Only talk about the SDS-100", but just adding my 2 cents.
The capabilities of this radio sound impressive. I would love to see this integrated in to a base/mobile version.

 

[eorange]

How well does the unication hear DMR? How many bands? P25 phase II? Field programmable? Price?

UPMan said the SDS100 decoded equal or better than the Unication. I'd like to see & hear the "or better" part, since the Unication decodes perfectly. I've no idea what the heck you're quoting.

 

[W4ELL]

Well, I guess the new release of the SDS100 means goodbye to anymore future improvements, bug fixes & or newly available upgrades to purchase for the whole line of BCD*36HP Scanners that will be fading away & costing little to not much money very soon! There are going be quite a few of the BCD*36Hp's floating on the market both used & new that people are not much going to want anymore or be interested in due to the rich voice & signal quality as well as the new features of the new SDS100 after its release including NXDN support.

I currently own a Uniden BCD536HP that is almost 2 years old & was really hoping for some major upgrades or improvements for the BCD*36 Flagship Models to make them receive & work better than they do now. I guess that I can & might as well give up my hopes & wishes for that from Uniden...

You should hit this thread:
https://forums.radioreference.com/u...n-support-436-536-coming-not.html#post2901070

UPMan said he will address this next week.

 

[Ubbe]

I was hoping one of the LEDs above the display where actually a light sensor to automaticly adjust the display brightness when you come out in the sunshine after being in a shaded area.

You have that on the simplest mobile phone and also an automatic sound level control would be useful that uses a mic to samples the surrounding background level to adjust the volume level. Almost all car stereos use that feature to give usuable volume levels in both freeway traffic and when stopping at a red light.

Hopefully the recording function will save all parameters like trunked frequency and sites and of course the actual date and time of each recording.

The search function could use a setting for store and lockout to not record the same interference over and over again.

The reverse and repeater find features should absolutly be configurable the same way that stepsize and mode are free to set to any value in the bandplan.

If there are extra IF filter and WFM discrimitor chip put onto the circuit board for FM broadcast reception those could be scrapped. All mobile phones already have that and of course all cars have FM stereos. Use that space for an additional extra receiver with reduced sensitivity with a crude front end filter to silently sample priority frequencies with analog carrier/CTCSS/ firetone decoding. Even those small tiny chinese radios have double VFOs.

I hope this scanner manages to keep the delay time for a DMR talk group and not ignore it and immediately jump to the other timeslot and starts monitoring that TG and ignore its delay as well.

The I/Q demodulation looks promising to finally stop the false decoding of TGs in DMR systems.
But the graphical signal strenght indicator are still too optimistic, indicating three bars with almost the lowest signal level possible. But then comes the dBm digits to the rescue. I hope there is an accesable service mode to adjust that and to tailor the bass/treble and analog/digital audio levels to your personal taste.

I wouldn't expect anything less with that kind of asking price.

/Ubbe

 

[belvdr]

Could SDS stand for Simulcast Distortion Solution?????

Software Defined Scanner

 

[10-75]

Read post #84 for your answer.

Thanks, I saw that but "external charger" kind of threw me...

 

[03msc]

I am hoping to get some video tomorrow side by side with my APXs and share it like UPMan did with the other videos.
Marshall KE4ZNR

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That would be excellent and might help to ease some folk's unbelief since it would be from someone other than Paul/Uniden. Of course, I know some won't believe it until they have it in hand and can check it on their particular local system themselves (understandable) but to have another source would be helpful.

 

[Voyager]

First of all, to say you've seen Motorola radios struggle with LSM and use it as an excuse is just plain reckless. Either that system you saw was not designed for the radio you used or that system has problems...problems to the tune of they better get their money back. Subscriber radios simply do not have LSM issues that affect performance to any degree worth writing about.

Or RF is unpredictable. I've heard LSM issues on Motorola radios, too. Sometimes there is nothing that can be done about it. No receiver will ever receive perfect everywhere. That's just the nature of RF. To imply that any given radio will never have issues is the claim that lacks credibility.

Your admission "to any degree worth writing about." affirms they have issues you've seen, too.

I'm sure sooner or later someone will post a video comparing the two manufacturers.

 

[Voyager]

Unless I’m missing something somewhere, there is no mention of the capacity of the battery pack. This also brings up another point, why a proprietary battery pack? Can standard AA batteries be used as well? Lastly, there are no sensitivity or audio specs. Why is that?

Manny

UPMan discussed the battery. He said the manual info is inaccurate and that it's still in evolution. (not a direct quote but it conveys the just of it)

Given the display and SDR aspects, AA cells would likely last an hour or two at the most. Is that really an option anyone would want? While I'm a big proponent of AA cells for many reasons, sometimes they just are not practical. Really, AA advancement has stalled several years ago at around 2700 mAH. Maybe the scanner outgrew them.

Even the cheap SDR dongles such my tablet battery dry pretty quick and that's a lot more than 2700 mAH.

 

[signal500]

Is their going to be a drop-in charger? I hope so....

I agree, a drop-in charger would be a great accessory. I'm surprised Uniden didn't add internal GPS to this model, especially with location-based scanning. Nice addition of the color display and the water resistant case! I like the overall looks of it and only time will tell on the receiver performance.

Thanks Uniden for helping keep the radio scanning hobby alive with this new release.

 

[natedawg1604]

A few answers:

Better digital LSM, simulcast and weak-signal P25 performance achieved by using a completely different receiver design. In terms of changes, this is a bigger challenge than the switch from crystals to PLL tuning.

Uses the same SMA antenna.

Range improvement for digital is hugely better than the x36s.

I believe 32G is the max SD size.

USB 2 is same as x36. USB 1, I have to check (it is currently unused).

As to NXDN, if I promise to fully address this next week, can you promise to keep this thread on the topic of the SDS100? I am only here for one more day, then have to go set up a trade show in Louisville.

How does the simulcast performance compare to an XTS 5k or Unication (which I assume are about the same)? I know it's not a commercial radio, but a lot of people will want to know how they compare...

 

[Voyager]

I sure wish that Uniden would have or offer a trade-in program sometime for the previously released BCD*36HP line of scanners towards the purchase of their new SDS100

That would likely be a dealer program. There are dealers that sell used scanners. Uniden does not AFAIK.

 

[mule1075]

Uniden does not AFAIK.

They did from time to time years ago their were never many to be had. And the prices were not that reasonable either.

 

[Voyager]

I've no idea what the heck you're quoting.

I quoted the text I replied to. Here it is again...

http://forums.radioreference.com/un...100-prerelease-discussion-11.html#post2901000

In text form:

Originally Posted by eorange
Which admittedly sounds the same as my G4. I'd like to hear how the SDS100 does better than a Unication.

To which I replied:
How well does the unication hear DMR? How many bands? P25 phase II? Field programmable? Price?


That means that the Unication has no DMR, limited bands, costly P25 Phase II upgrade, no field programmability, and costs more with those features than the SDS100. THAT is how the SDS100 "does better".


Oh - and how many channels does the Unication support? That alone totally blows the Unication out of the water if the SDS100 comes close to the same performance. And you just said it "sounds the same as my G4" (direct quote).

 

[shb80]

No. We did not want to adversely affect Jon's supplemental income.

Hahahahaha!!

 

[mikewazowski]

Please keep in mind that this thread is for discussion of the SDS100.

Other topics such as support for older scanners can be discussed in one of the other threads such as:

https://forums.radioreference.com/uniden-tavern/367578-nxdn-support-436-536-coming-not.html or

https://forums.radioreference.com/u...en-update-status-now-new-model-announced.html

If a suitable thread doesn't exist, feel free to start one of your own.

Thanks.