SDS100 Prerelease Discussion

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jonwienke

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Disappointment, scanner is NO use outside US of A and Canada. Thanks for nothing Uniden.
You (Uniden) alienating yourself from large user base in UK, Australasia, Europe and Asian users, together much bigger than US user base.
No wonder we drifting more and more to SDR solutions. Go Whistler Go with UK and Australian band plan.

You can program any band plan you want, and you aren't limited to listening to stuff programmed in the Uniden database.
 

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How well does the unication hear DMR? How many bands? P25 phase II? Field programmable? Price?

You have zero idea about Unication's product line and/or you are happy to be a Uniden shill.

A simple visit to Unication's site reveals that they do make an advanced G4 & G5 that is capable of DMR Tier III, P25, and TETRA trunking. Now I haven't seen the advanced model available in the US but given the response that Unication USA has had for their basic model, I bet they bring the advanced model to the market in the near future.

As far as bands go (I'm assuming you mean frequency ranges), for MOST public service trunking monitoring, you only need 700/800 MHz. Getting a G5 over a G4 allows you to get the systems that aren't covered. Need a model that covers 380 MHz for military systems or one that covers 470-520 MHz? They have it and the fact that it's first job is as a public safety pager and not a scanner, that's pretty damn impressive. You can also add in the fact that the Unication has the ability to enter a system key and decode encrypted traffic.

Unication has a proven device that delivers nearly everything it promises. It's not perfect but it works to the point where many agencies are buying them as an affordable alternative to buying even more radios.

Uniden talks a big game and rarely backs it up. $699 plus upgrades puts this squarely outside the realm of casual listeners and those wanting buy one on a whim. People tend to get real picky once they start approaching and cross over the $1k mark. Uniden competing near this price point? We'll see. I suspect A LOT of people are going to be buying this directly from Amazon where they can return it without any type of penalty.

If Uniden does have a hit on their hands, I'll be glad to buy one. Whistler is starting to stagnate and AOR/Icom keep forgetting that some people want the ability to follow trunked systems. I cut my teeth on Uniden rigs. My very first "brand new" scanner was a BC60XLT and I still have my BC780XLT. It would be a proud moment for me to finally own a new Uniden product that isn't a series of compromises, empty promises, and engineering mistakes.
 

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Kudos to Uniden. Sad to see so many negative comments and so much complaining. If LSM is now properly demodulated, this will be one of the most revolutionary scanners ever made. UPman never made claims about LSM performance on previous scanners, so the fact that he is doing so here says a lot. $699 for something that works as well as a Unication and is a true scanner is amazing. A few on here bashing Uniden and saying they aren't interested, yet have owned every scanner made in the last decade are full of it. They will all buy one, and complain in the meantime. The radio community never fails to amaze me.

who has been negative? I read every page of this thread and all I see is a discussion. People sharing there thoughts and ideas about the new uniden scanner.
 

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.......back on topic.

My comments are completely on topic. This is a discussion forum where we are discussing the new Uniden Scanner. Which looks like a fine scanner indeed. I am really quite interested in how well this scanner is going to work. Being SDR and all. I was just expressing concern about the price tag with all these extra fees.
 

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Nice assumption. Where did you get $100? The display likely costs the better part of $100.

I hope it performs better than the $10 SDR dongles! (more in line with the $200 ones)

How much are the royalties? Likely the better part of what is being charged.

Contact DVSI and ask them.

You obviously don't have a clue.
 

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I hope the speaker jack has full audio output as I work in a noisy warehouse. I added an additional speaker jack to my 2-436's to get full volume out for the lapel speaker I use at work.
 

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UPman, what is the DSP audio delay like vs the x36HP models? The x36HP scanners has enough of an audio delay, both analog and digital, to preclude them being used next to older Unidens, Whistlers, or Motorola receivers without serious echo effect. I am doing a full phase II scanner upgrade for my TV news station, and x36HP's were taken off of the list in large part to the audio delay.

Also hoping very much the engineering design of the speaker "sealing" is capable of being "deweatherized" for those that do not like rubber membranes over their audio source. I've used Motorola motorcycle spec 13 watt speakers...look like the regular ones, but they have a sheet of rubber across the cone under the grill that you can remove.

A final audio thought...perhaps allow audio profiles or EQ, or better yet, design a DSP that adjusts audio tone according to volume level and speaker output...the louder you turn up the volume, the more bass the DSP pulls from the audio signal to keep the case from vibrating. Incorporate it into the AGC if you have to :)

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Nice assumption. Where did you get $100? The display likely costs the better part of $100.

A complete iphone display with all colors that show 1080 video with touch screen costs $10 to buy from ebay.
Thats the end user sales price. The sales price to the distributor from the factory is less.

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allow audio profiles or EQ, or better yet, design a DSP that adjusts audio tone according to volume level and speaker output...the louder you turn up the volume, the more bass the DSP pulls from the audio signal to keep the case from vibrating.

Agree. Audio devices should always have a loudness function that reduce the bass frequencies with higher volume. So many forgotten enhancements are only a firmware coder away. But I guess there must be something saved for a future model. Or will it come in an optitional extreame $75 addon.

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Oh boy. I am really loving the display customization options! I wasn't going to buy another scanner, but I think this will be a must have.
 

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Its hard to tell from the videos but I hope the characters/fonts are bigger than on the 436's display along with a brighter backlight. I dumped 2 of them because the display was hard to read at a glance and during daylight. That said, the overall display does look a little better on the SDS100. Maybe the background is enhanced more to make the characters stand out better. I hope the UHF reception has been addressed also. Still, a lot of UHF around to listen too. I too, almost pulled the plug on a G5 so now I'll wait a little longer for the SDS100. Uniden appears they have listened to most of our complaints about the 436. Time will tell. Thanks, Paul O. Glad Uniden is still serious about our hobby bringing out a new scanner for us that want one.
 

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No - as to font size, there seem to be various areas where you can assign different itmesand select colors, but fixed fonts. Some areas are larger.


Speaking of Display representation, do we have a menu option to increase the font size to make it easier to read for us visually challenged person(s). We passed on the HP436 as the font size in the display was too small.

Thank You.
 

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Oh boy. I am really loving the display customization options! I wasn't going to buy another scanner, but I think this will be a must have.

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Those 2 LEDs seem large. Is that true or is it me?
 

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If you do conventional discovery, that will find the frequencies. Then you do trunking discovery to figure out the talkgroups.



Yes but In conventional discovery when I hit on a Control Channel it will not display useful information like type system, system ID, etc lime CC Only mode on the XT.


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Will this scanner have Bluetooth capability?




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