SDS100 Prerelease Discussion

[UPMan]

If so, Uniden should just come out and say it...

x36 radios are not end of life.

 

[ur20v]

If so, Uniden should just come out and say it...

I agree. I understand Uniden now wanting to to give their competition a road map of their upcoming products and features, but don't leave us (who've paid our money for your top-tier products) in the dark. Yes or no, Paul?

 

[UPMan]

I think the best part most people are glossing over is that by this unit being an SDR with a hopefully large user base is that improvements to decoding and changes to system are very much less limited by the hardware so theoretically it could be a lot more future proof.

Now I'm curious what the bandwidth of the receiver is (ie decode CC while decoding a talkgroup even on a system with channels in 7 and 800 band) and what the actual bandwidth range will be (maybe shortwave SSB?). Doubtful on those too but a powerful tool to have SDR in a purpose built handheld unit.

Bandwidth is highly dependent on available processing power. My i7 Alienware Laptop can usually do 20 MHz bandwidth FFT. My Raspberry Pi has trouble with 1 MHz.

 

[SCPD]

UpMan...I'll take that bet on the Midland Texas P25 Phase 2 system. The x36 scanner does a decent job but still missing plenty of transmissions so I'm anxious to see what the SDS100 does here.

 

[racingfan360]

Sounds like you are making the assumption that the x36 is EOL. For the sake of all those x36 owners out there, I'm sure they hope his isn't true....

I really hope the x36 isnt EOL too troymail, but I do worry about the commercial model of this now.....frankly if the x36 gets NXDN, will there be much incentive for a group of us to then buy an SDS100 as well into the future? Or would uniden rather temp us with a "want NXDN? then you'll be forced to upgrade to an SDS100 then sir"

 

[Mr_Boh]

Right. But purpose built chips (which probably aren't really out there yet for SDRs) can handle stuff better. Why broadcom chips in some routers can outperform higher powered desktop CPUs. Designed for the packet handling.

 

[UPMan]

Central Ohio Integrated Radio System LSM Reception: BCD436HP vs. SDS100

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ETOomxXtoZNsrNVqVXTkyls2U7_HdMD6

 

[UPMan]

Maryland FIRST Performance check: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jBr1ixlME_Tu9BO3SHEvCJl5CQDd7qu7

 

[wx5uif]

frankly if the x36 gets NXDN, will there be much incentive for a group of us to then buy an SDS100 as well into the future? Or would uniden rather temp us with a "want NXDN?"

I'd upgrade both my 5 and 436 today. I'd also buy this and a mobile version if that ever comes out.

 

[UPMan]

Philly Performance Check: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tdwohmQxWbcy5Rr_LINlv3fZlzboNkeN

 

[troymail]

x36 radios are not end of life.

I don't think that answered the question.

 

[03msc]

Central Ohio Integrated Radio System LSM Reception: BCD436HP vs. SDS100

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ETOomxXtoZNsrNVqVXTkyls2U7_HdMD6

Nice to see it show volume and squelch level on the display at all times. It's the little things...

 

[RadioDitch]

x36 radios are not end of life.

And that definite statement is reassuring for support of the models at least. Thank you Mr. O. But (and of course I'm not expecting or asking for a reply to this) we still have to wait and see if they've reached a dead-end in terms of capabilities and upgrades.

 

[phask]

Because a receiver MUST sit/receive the tones long enough to decode, same for WX tones when scanning it's very easy to miss a tone.

Upman,

why would you need multiple receivers for the scanner to tone out if it had the correct fire tones?

 

[UPMan]

So, I've got to go get some dinner and eventually go to bed. I'm hoping that posting the Owner's Manual will keep you occupied for a while. Note that there are some things in this version (mostly related to the battery) that are incorrect, but I am waiting for some testing to finalize.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1U2HeMVdqBaH48AlkJ75JZPwZOFGXM_49

 

[Spitfire8520]

Will it properly follow P25 patched talkgroups?

Not too important for myself, but will it support fire tone out on trunked radio systems?

 

[fourthhorseman]

x36 radios are not end of life.

aside from general FW updates for the X36 series, it would be nice to know
if UNIDEN was Not planning a NXDN add-on in the future. I understand not
mentioning a pending project's delivery date. But what about having no intent
on a feature.

Been fenced for about a year now regarding $$ output on a Whistler.
Not UNIDENS problem, just mine..

Are folks waiting in vein for the NXDN update?

 

[Voyager]

:evil:

Ouch, your looking at almost a $1000 handheld with all the upgrades.

Yep people praise the Unication. Same price for much less.

Face it. LSM costs money in a portable package.

 

[ButchGone]

Thank you Paul and the rest of your team at Uniden! Glad to see the innovation continue. Love my 436/536, and will gladly upgrade to this one.
BG..

 

[trido]

PERFECT
thanks

So far, in multiple environments on multiple systems, the SDS100 has performed as good or better than either Unication pagers or duty radios, sitting side by side.