Thanks. My lack of an outdoor antenna may also be the reason for the few hits as I am using a nice Diamond but it's still just a rubber ducky that is inside my place. Hopefully, if we ever get warm wx again I will get something outdoors.
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Having been the recipient of some tests administered by the ANG, that is what I suspected was happening. This discovery test was done during the week, which likely explains the low count. Thanks for the response.
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Is there any confirmation of any agencies utilizing Phase II now? Also, with Phase II migration does this call for any type of reprogramming on the listeners end?
Once there are talkgroups with verified 100% TDMA activity, we would add them to the system (or modify them if they are already in the system) with the "T" digital mode for TDMA. The DB currently reflects all SIRN talkgroups as D (phase I digital). I don't recall if talkgroups in scanners have to be specifically tagged in the scanner as Phase I / II or not. Maybe it "just works" either way in a scanner as long as the scanner is capable of handling TDMA.
@n8jsw and @firemantom26 have seen some TDMA testing on some "private" fire talkgroups somewhere up in the NPH. They are collecting data and we will update those records in the DB when we are positive they are TDMA.
You might want to check with @n8jsw and @firemantom26 for now, as it will be a few days before anything gets changed in the DB for any talkgroups.
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if you have a phase 2 capable scanner I don't see why the scanner user would have to do anything , unless there is a talk group change
Correct, You will not need to do anything.........
Anyone know what these log entries mean? Enc = Encryption? or, something else?
This is from DSD plus.
This is from DSD plus.
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2021/03/18 21:56:12 Freq=460.162500 NAC=170 Enc Group call; TG=2101 [[OC Fire Disp] Fire Dispatch] RID=214271 Ch=453.1875 AlgID=04 KeyID=0020 (32) 3s
2021/03/20 20:17:46 Freq=460.162500 NAC=170 Enc Group call; TG=2205 [[BrookeCo EMS] EMS Dispatch] RID=222194 Ch=453.1875 AlgID=23 KeyID=9800 (38912) 7s
2021/03/21 07:21:16 Freq=460.162500 NAC=170 Enc Group call; TG=2201 [[BrookeCo FD] Fire Dispatch future use] RID=222410 Ch=460.2375 AlgID=82 KeyID=2000 (8192) 6s
2021/03/22 09:44:45 Freq=460.162500 NAC=170 Enc Group call; TG=2205 [[BrookeCo EMS] EMS Dispatch] RID=222194 Ch=460.2375 AlgID=24 KeyID=0812 (2066) 4s
2021/03/22 09:44:49 Freq=460.237500 NAC=170 Enc Group call; TG=2205 [[BrookeCo EMS] EMS Dispatch] RID=220411 Ch=460.2375 AlgID=24 KeyID=0812 (2066) 3s
2021/03/22 21:03:58 Freq=460.162500 NAC=170 Enc Group call; TG=2101 [[OC Fire Disp] Fire Dispatch] RID=219700 Ch=460.2375 AlgID=08 KeyID=0800 (2048) 23s
2021/03/23 11:43:08 Freq=453.187500 NAC=170 Enc Group call; TG=2207 [[BrookeCo SO] Sheriff Dispatch] RID=222548 Ch=453.1875 AlgID=82 KeyID=2000 (8192) 4s
2021/03/23 18:04:11 Freq=460.162500 NAC=170 Enc Group call; TG=2205 [[BrookeCo EMS] EMS Dispatch] RID=222194 Ch=453.1875 AlgID=08 KeyID=0820 (2080) 14s
2021/03/24 12:39:59 Freq=460.162500 NAC=170 Enc Group call; TG=2205 [[BrookeCo EMS] EMS Dispatch] Ch=460.2375 Pri0 AlgID=F1 KeyID=8DF2 (36338) 3sENC = Encryption
Could be false decodes. The algorithm ID is all over the place and is likely only going to be one of two possibilities, AES-256 or ADP/ARC4 which are IDs 84 and AA respectively.
I run DSD+ all the time to discover new TG's. I have never logged any that Luke showed in the above post as ENC.
I'm also getting talkgroups popping up ocasionally that are not in the SIRN list. I guess my radio is intermittently getting bad data. At least it's rare. 9 entries in a week of operation. I'm using RTL-SDR.COM V3 R820T2 RTL2832U dongles. What SDR's are you using? I may need to get something a little better.
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What are the talkgroups your seeing that aren’t on the list? Brooke county is currently adding several new talkgroups into operations.
Here are the talkgroups that are present in my logs but not in the SIRN database on RR. I downloaded a fresh copy of the RR data tonight to use for the comparison.
2104
2109
2134
2206
2208
2209
2210
2217
2220
2221
2227
2230
2232
2243
2245
2247
2249
2250
2253
2255
2259
2261
2263
2265
2269
2270
2276
2277
2278
2279
2280
2281
2282
2283
2284
2286
2299
2301
2304
2313
2319
2333
2353
2357
3941
8076
8090
8310
9101
9109
9499
9553
9890
2104
2109
2134
2206
2208
2209
2210
2217
2220
2221
2227
2230
2232
2243
2245
2247
2249
2250
2253
2255
2259
2261
2263
2265
2269
2270
2276
2277
2278
2279
2280
2281
2282
2283
2284
2286
2299
2301
2304
2313
2319
2333
2353
2357
3941
8076
8090
8310
9101
9109
9499
9553
9890
I am running a Airspy R2 SDR.
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Anybody out there monitor the DMR/Mototrbo? I seen a bunch of Weirton PD vehicles at Lautumas getting radios replaced? Wondering if there using it yet or not.
I have not heard nothing on Lautumas or SIRN from Weirton PD. That’s the million dollar question as far as which system they are going to drink the Kool-Aid
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They bit the bullet on the DMR. Anytime now they will be switching.
I will still need to either see something official in writing or monitor them personally using DMR to believe they would do something so stupid. New SIRN P25 towers built in PA and Weirton to cover the panhandle with another possibly on the way near East Liverpool. Brooke County moving to SIRN, P25 is _the_interoperability standard, and Weirton dismisses all of that and goes to a non-public safety DMR system? It defies logic. The current VHF repeater serves Weirton just fine, the only thing that would make limited sense is if they converted that repeater to DMR. No reason or benefit to go to the Lauttamus DMR trunking system given all the other variables.
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