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Speaking of the Museum. Looks like this KC-135 60-0329 did a flyby there this morning, then disappeared. Did it land there ? Runway looks closed ?

60-0329 did a full stop landing and did not file an outbound flightplan. :)

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National Museum of U.S. Air Force To Add Iconic KC-135 To Collection
This KC-135R Stratotanker aircraft became the first to refuel three aircraft at once during an emergency operation in 1967 in the Gulf of Tonkin.

By Kimberly Johnson
April 20, 2022

The National Museum of the U.S. Air Force (NMUSAF) will soon add to its collection a KC-135R Stratotanker that is not only an example of one of the service’s most iconic aircraft, but also the first aircraft to conduct tri-level fueling.

The Air Force is retiring the aerial refueler with serial number 60-0329 after decades of service, and it is slated to be delivered to the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, museum on Saturday, April 30.

The aircraft, which performed the unprecedented triple aerial refueling operation in the Gulf of Tonkin in May 1967, is a significant addition to the museum, according to officials.

The refueling feat occurred when the KC-135’s crew received an emergency request that Navy aircraft were in immediate need of refueling.

“A downed U.S. Navy pilot needed to be rescued in Southeast Asia,” William McLaughlin, reference curator at the museum, told FLYING in an email. “Two Navy F-8 fighters provided cover for the pilot. For several hours, two Navy A-3 tankers kept the F-8s fueled and flying, but the group was dangerously low on fuel. The KC-135 was in the area of operations when its crew responded and refueled the tankers while they simultaneously refueled the fighters,” he said.

“This was tremendous because the KC-135 happened to be in drogue and probe configuration so that it could fuel two F-104s as its original mission,” McLaughlin said.

“The downed Navy pilot was surrounded by AAA [anti-aircraft artillery] and the Navy F-8s were doing their best to save their guy,” he added. “A valve goes down on one of the A-3s that keeps him from being able. that keeps him from being able to use the fuel he has onboard. The operation itself is highly tenuous. From a pilot perspective, the KC-135 crew must keep their plane steady because it’s refueling the A-3s who are also having to fly a steady course because they have an F-8 getting gas.”

Not only was the operation the the first time that tri-level fueling had ever been conducted, it was done in a combat zone, McLaughlin said.

The KC-135 aircrew would go on to be awarded the 1967 Mackay Trophy for most meritorious flight of the year.

“An Air Force KC-135 crew is surrounded by Navy planes that are barely in the air over another downed pilot,” McLaughlin said. “Our KC-135 crew takes their plane into hostile airspace to save lives and they do. This was the first time that a refueling crew was ever awarded the Mackay Trophy, and they deserve the recognition.”

Adding the aircraft to the museum’s collection puts a spotlight on the big picture story of the aircraft, along with its flight crew.

“This is why we say that we are the keepers of their stories,” McLaughlin said. “We try to have aircraft that demonstrate the advancements in airpower, but also keep the people in the forefront of the conversation. I think 60-0329 fits that goal perfectly.”

The Stratotanker was fielded in the late 1950s in order to extend the reach of Strategic Air Command during the Cold War. When it entered service in 1957, the KC-135 became a modernization milestone when it replaced propeller driven tankers of the post-war period. It’s an aircraft that the Air Force continues to fly today.

“The success of the KC-135 is demonstrated in its lifecycle,” McLaughlin said.

The Air Force initially purchased 732 KC-135s, the last of which was delivered in 1965. The service currently has an inventory of 396 aircraft: 153 in active duty, 171 in Air National Guard and 72 in Air Force Reserve.

“The KC-135 Stratotanker’s in-flight refueling capability is the foundation on which many other Air Force operations are built,” McLaughlin said. “Not only is the KC-135 an iconic plane, but its telescoping boom system and other upgrades revolutionized aerial refueling. In-flight refueling is a combat multiplier that provides the flexibility needed to have a dynamic Air Force.”

National Museum of U.S. Air Force To Add Iconic KC-135 To Collection - FLYING Magazine

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Seems unlikely but maybe the Captain is over 65 ? I know there are Canadian carriers that employ Captains over 65 on domestic routes that are not allowed to fly through US airspace. Or maybe they just didn't get the paperwork done ? Seen that before.
Thanks airscan. That makes sense. Thanks for the link of that flight turning around. Very interesting!
 

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Just noticed that it looks like a CanForce C-130 will be departing Dulles soon. It showed up on Thursday.

1150- Cleared for takeoff
Freq

Canforce 2512 working ZDC Hagerstown (134.15) & ZOB Indian Head (132.125) heading northwest.

1215- Indy 75 (KC-135R # 63-7966 434th ARW, AFRC Grissom ARB, IN) transiting area heading east. Working ZNY Big Flat (132.2). also working Brickyard CP (237.15)

1225- Wylie 82 off Langley. Maybe following Utah 61?
 
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Seems unlikely but maybe the Captain is over 65 ? I know there are Canadian carriers that employ Captains over 65 on domestic routes that are not allowed to fly through US airspace. Or maybe they just didn't get the paperwork done ? Seen that before.

I don't think that it would be likely to have a military pilot 65 or over even in the RAF which does have some older pilots. And, the 65 and over rule is a civil regulation, not a military one in the U.S and under ICAO.

But, so-called state aircraft are under some odd rules flying internationally. I remember years ago in the Persian Gulf flying with a friend who flew the VC-25As during the Clinton Administration. Bahrain Control was trying to give a SAM C-32A a shortcut routing through Qatar's airspace which SAM refused. My friend said that the Andrews planes flew under different rules from most other U.S. military aircraft and needed a diplomatic clearance to fly over the territory of most countries even though they could fly overwater in the control areas with no problem.
 

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Strange altitude as ASSET-01 C-17 #01-0186 off Dover to Syracuse area flying low at 5700 feet.
Maybe enjoying the clear skies :)
ASSET-01 back inbound Dover alpha 1 training complete and combat offload a single pallet
crew of 16. Also they did nice tour of the Falls from the US side.
Judging by the shaky ovals I would say they were flying manually :)
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I don't think that it would be likely to have a military pilot 65 or over even in the RAF which does have some older pilots. And, the 65 and over rule is a civil regulation, not a military one in the U.S and under ICAO.

Agree it's probably not that likely it was an age thing. They went back the same way RRR 4031, while at the same time RRR 4052 was flying through US Airspace. Strange.
 

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Some thing is moving onSunday
Just seen these G0198/22 - AIRSPACE RESERVATION
TR: 5530N 02200W - 5530N 02000W - ETARI - KUGUR
FLW SEPARATIONS WILL BE PROVIDED WITHIN SHANWICK OCEANIC AIRSPACE:
MNPS/NAT HIGH LEVEL AIRSPACE(HLA) 60NM, NON-MNPS/NAT HLA 120NM. FL220 - FL240,
01 MAY 15:30 2022 UNTIL 01 MAY 18:37 2022. CREATED: 30 APR 17:47 2022

G0197/22 - AIRSPACE RESERVATION
TR: 5530N 02200W - 5530N 02000W - ETARI - KUGUR
FLW SEPARATIONS WILL BE PROVIDED WITHIN SHANWICK OCEANIC AIRSPACE:
MNPS/NAT HIGH LEVEL AIRSPACE(HLA) 60NM, NON-MNPS/NAT HLA 120NM. FL220 - FL240,
01 MAY 04:41 2022 UNTIL 01 MAY 07:50 2022. CREATED: 30 APR 17:46 2022

G0196/22 - AIRSPACE RESERVATION
TR: 5530N 02200W - 5530N 02000W - ETARI - KUGUR
FLW SEPARATIONS WILL BE PROVIDED WITHIN SHANWICK OCEANIC AIRSPACE:
MNPS/NAT HIGH LEVEL AIRSPACE(HLA) 60NM, NON-MNPS/NAT HLA 120NM. FL220 - FL240,
01 MAY 02:16 2022 UNTIL 01 MAY 05:25 2022. CREATED: 30 APR 17:45 2022
 

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Some thing is moving onSunday
Just seen these G0198/22 - AIRSPACE RESERVATION
Looks like same airspace Res for 3 different times.. First two Res are only a few hours from now.
ETARI-KUGUR show just North of Ireland into the UK. Maybe C-17 tanker topoffs eastbound.
0216z-0525z
0441z-0750z
1530z-1837z
Had something similar last week when those 4 C-17's out of Lackland Texas came Northeast about an hour apart
and there was 4.5 hour Res for AR-20NE.No tankers showed so all put into Pease,Bangor and Canada to refuel.
 
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They don't even show the airport/runway on VFR charts anymore, and looking at Google Earth the runway is marked with X's and looks kinda rough. Surprised they have an active Tower frequency.

It is a closed airport, they only use it for museum arrivals and other events. Occasionally also UAV testing. The “tower” is a small enclosure on a trailer that they use when needed. They used to drive it to KDAY to act as an RSU for the Dayton Air Show.
 
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