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RE: that 122.85 freq. When I hear it, it has always been a pilot with an accent asking about air traffic around Berryville and Winchester, VA. 
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Once I heard local flying club use 122.850 as A/A on departure from Cecil airport but usually get commercial airline asking about wheelchairs and gates etc for passengers.
I guess many uses for that freq.
Mark
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I guess many uses for that freq.
Mark
Maryland
CONNIE 9717 into Dover with appch 132.425
Had this Commercial 747 cargo into Dover AFB tonite...
Web page lists their 747 fleet of 14 and matches N717CK.
http://www.kalittaair.com/
Does he still do Drag racing?
Mark
Maryland
Had this Commercial 747 cargo into Dover AFB tonite...
Web page lists their 747 fleet of 14 and matches N717CK.
http://www.kalittaair.com/
Does he still do Drag racing?
Mark
Maryland
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1245: DC-ANG F-16s from Andrews are up and working the Pax Range area. So far, a RAVAGE 61 flight working tac 143.15, an ANGRY 51 flight on 143.6 tac and a refrence to a BULLY flight heard. They are entering the Pax range with BayWatch on 270.8.
1255: The DC F-16s are using an exercise callsign (ground FAC) of HOMEY while at the range. They are also using 270.8 as their discrete freq for coordination among the flights. Guess they can use that freq today because of the paucity of flight activity around Pax due to the rainy weather.
1302: The RAVAGE/ANGRY flights are asking if the BULLY flight has taken off yet. «270.8» Guess that's why I haven't found them yet.
1316: RAVAGE 61 reports "Winchester" so is sent to V-1 with MAD DOG to give mission report «143.15»
1317: The flights are again asking the whereabouts of the BULLY flight «143.15»
1317: ANGRY 51 to MAD DOG on «139.9» to say he's not going to be able to control BULLY since he's only got about 10 minutes of fuel left. In spite of that, his flight is extended by 20 minutes.
1321: RAVAGE 61 to MAD DOG on SOF freq «139.9» to give mission report. On tac, 61 reports code 2 for lamination peeling off his cockpit canopy...62 is Code 1. «143.15»
1322: BULLY 11 flight is up and checking in at the range on «270.8» Their tac freq is «139.15»
All three flights are comprised of two F-16s each. (F-16C+)
1329: RAVAGE flight leader tells BULLY to "push it up" because he's only got 8-10 minutes of fuel left. «270.8»
BULLY flight has been called 11, 21 and 41 by the other fighters. BULLY is calling themselves 11 and 12 so I guess 11 is the correct flight suffix.
1333: RAVAGE 61 asks BayWatch for another freq to get clearance back home «270.8» He's given 354.8 and goes there to request tunnel back to Andrews in a non-standard two mile trail. Meanwhile, he's still controlling the BULLY flight on «270.8»
1339: RAVAGE flight concerned about the weather at Andrews...wants to ask SOF if Langley is still the alternate. «143.15» They go to SOF on «139.9» to ask about it.
1337-1340: Am hearing the Pax ground controller HOMEY on «270.8». (Unless it's BULLY 12 playing the part of HOMEY which could very well be the case.)
1342: RAVAGE flight with Reagan TRACON on «270.275» working their way back to Andrews.
(Interesting that I hear the flights loud and clear on 139.9 SOF with my BC785s and can't hear them other than as just some static on my lone PRO-2042 which I usually just use for Langley flights. This comparison was when they were at low altitude. When the aircraft are high and strong enough, the 2042 is okay. All are on the same antenna through a Stridsberg multicoupler.)
1352: RAVAGE 61/62 flight approaching the field for landing on Tower freq «349.0»
1352: BULLY tells BayWatch they'll RTB to Andrews in 5 minutes and are looking for the tunnel back home. «270.8»
1354: ANGRY 51 flight with TRACON approaching the field «270.275»
1355: Short 5 minutes...BULLY says they're ready to RTB and need IFR descent. «270.8»
1356: ANGRY 51/52 flight to Tower on «349.0» to land...they're in a two mile trail. RAVAGE flight already on the ground.
1358: BULLY 11/12 flight working their way back home on tac «139.15» and over to SOF on «139.9» with mission results. BULLY 12 reports (sounding sheepish) he bombed a mosque that was not supposed to be bombed. Both report Code 1 maintenance status.
1401: BULLY flight to TRACON on «270.275» in a two mile trail. For the next several minutes they're chatting about weather at Andrews while on tac «139.15»
1411: BULLY 11/12 flight with Tower on «349.0» for landing.
1415: BULLY 12 landing «349.0»
And so ends the mission since we can't follow them into the debriefing room. Maybe we can meet them at the 'O' Club in a bit and talk about the mission over a beer.
1255: The DC F-16s are using an exercise callsign (ground FAC) of HOMEY while at the range. They are also using 270.8 as their discrete freq for coordination among the flights. Guess they can use that freq today because of the paucity of flight activity around Pax due to the rainy weather.
1302: The RAVAGE/ANGRY flights are asking if the BULLY flight has taken off yet. «270.8» Guess that's why I haven't found them yet.
1316: RAVAGE 61 reports "Winchester" so is sent to V-1 with MAD DOG to give mission report «143.15»
1317: The flights are again asking the whereabouts of the BULLY flight «143.15»
1317: ANGRY 51 to MAD DOG on «139.9» to say he's not going to be able to control BULLY since he's only got about 10 minutes of fuel left. In spite of that, his flight is extended by 20 minutes.
1321: RAVAGE 61 to MAD DOG on SOF freq «139.9» to give mission report. On tac, 61 reports code 2 for lamination peeling off his cockpit canopy...62 is Code 1. «143.15»
1322: BULLY 11 flight is up and checking in at the range on «270.8» Their tac freq is «139.15»
All three flights are comprised of two F-16s each. (F-16C+)
1329: RAVAGE flight leader tells BULLY to "push it up" because he's only got 8-10 minutes of fuel left. «270.8»
BULLY flight has been called 11, 21 and 41 by the other fighters. BULLY is calling themselves 11 and 12 so I guess 11 is the correct flight suffix.
1333: RAVAGE 61 asks BayWatch for another freq to get clearance back home «270.8» He's given 354.8 and goes there to request tunnel back to Andrews in a non-standard two mile trail. Meanwhile, he's still controlling the BULLY flight on «270.8»
1339: RAVAGE flight concerned about the weather at Andrews...wants to ask SOF if Langley is still the alternate. «143.15» They go to SOF on «139.9» to ask about it.
1337-1340: Am hearing the Pax ground controller HOMEY on «270.8». (Unless it's BULLY 12 playing the part of HOMEY which could very well be the case.)
1342: RAVAGE flight with Reagan TRACON on «270.275» working their way back to Andrews.
(Interesting that I hear the flights loud and clear on 139.9 SOF with my BC785s and can't hear them other than as just some static on my lone PRO-2042 which I usually just use for Langley flights. This comparison was when they were at low altitude. When the aircraft are high and strong enough, the 2042 is okay. All are on the same antenna through a Stridsberg multicoupler.)
1352: RAVAGE 61/62 flight approaching the field for landing on Tower freq «349.0»
1352: BULLY tells BayWatch they'll RTB to Andrews in 5 minutes and are looking for the tunnel back home. «270.8»
1354: ANGRY 51 flight with TRACON approaching the field «270.275»
1355: Short 5 minutes...BULLY says they're ready to RTB and need IFR descent. «270.8»
1356: ANGRY 51/52 flight to Tower on «349.0» to land...they're in a two mile trail. RAVAGE flight already on the ground.
1358: BULLY 11/12 flight working their way back home on tac «139.15» and over to SOF on «139.9» with mission results. BULLY 12 reports (sounding sheepish) he bombed a mosque that was not supposed to be bombed. Both report Code 1 maintenance status.
1401: BULLY flight to TRACON on «270.275» in a two mile trail. For the next several minutes they're chatting about weather at Andrews while on tac «139.15»
1411: BULLY 11/12 flight with Tower on «349.0» for landing.
1415: BULLY 12 landing «349.0»
And so ends the mission since we can't follow them into the debriefing room. Maybe we can meet them at the 'O' Club in a bit and talk about the mission over a beer.
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ka3jjz
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Quick note - I didn't find National Communications mag at Books A Million - perhaps Borders (as one other poster suggested) is the better bet....73s Mike
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Mark said:
Yes indeed Mark, the Aircraft freqs wiki shows this as a 'Multicom - Special Use and Aviation Support on Non Interference' frequency. I find it odd, tho that Andrews would use this freq for a PTD - I could see it if commercial a/c were using Andrews, but that's not the case....73s Mike
A few heard here this afternoon...
SMOKY 77 C-21 #84-0107,prob Colorado trainer maint divert Andrews 1640z.
COHO 87 and COHO 86 both arriving McGuire on CP 319.400 1730z.
Guessing KC-135's from 121 ARW RICKENBACKER ANGB OH.No tails given
as also could be McChord C-17's.
OSPREY 24 single V-22 with Dover metro 342.000 1806z req wx over Pax river area.
Mark
SMOKY 77 C-21 #84-0107,prob Colorado trainer maint divert Andrews 1640z.
COHO 87 and COHO 86 both arriving McGuire on CP 319.400 1730z.
Guessing KC-135's from 121 ARW RICKENBACKER ANGB OH.No tails given
as also could be McChord C-17's.
OSPREY 24 single V-22 with Dover metro 342.000 1806z req wx over Pax river area.
Mark
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ka3jjz said:
Sorry folks my bad- I put this message in the wrong place, and it seems I can't delete it.
Mike
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1715-- Just returned to the radios to hear DC ANG active on <139.15 >
One of the "OMAHA" blackhawks overflew my home in Severn about 1700, headed Northeast towards BWI, anyone catch anything?
1724 Angry 41 with PAX <305.2> then <270.8>
Another flight on <143.6> might be Bully, nope Angry 41 is on <143.6> other flight (bully ?)is on <139.15>,
Angry pushes V-1 SOF, then V-5 back to <143.6>
Angry working "Darkman"(simulated?) on <143.6>
One of the "OMAHA" blackhawks overflew my home in Severn about 1700, headed Northeast towards BWI, anyone catch anything?
1724 Angry 41 with PAX <305.2> then <270.8>
Another flight on <143.6> might be Bully, nope Angry 41 is on <143.6> other flight (bully ?)is on <139.15>,
Angry pushes V-1 SOF, then V-5 back to <143.6>
Angry working "Darkman"(simulated?) on <143.6>
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ANGRY fairly loud and clear here now on 143.600 and damage reports sim A/A on 139.900
"3 buildings destroyed"
Mark
"3 buildings destroyed"
Mark
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ka3jjz said:
I pretty consistently hear "Air Jaimaica" and "Getaway"(USA 3000 Airlines) calling inbound to Newark on this freq...
Edit to add -- and this evening - Jamaica 019(Montego Bay - Newark) calling "New York Port Authority" for Gate information
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At the risk of beating this subject to death....
The use of 122.85 could simply have been a mistake on the part of the calling aircraft. I should have added at the time that that is not the current VHF Pilot-To-Dispatch (PTD) freq for Andrews which is 139.3 for both Air Force and Navy. Each service has its own UHF PTD - USAF on 372.2 and USN on 386.8. The Navy seems to make much more use of those freqs at Andrews than does the Air Force.
1022: Flight of three F-22A aircraft from Langley on tac «233.525»
1024: COBRA 1, flight of four, with ZDC-Salisbury «257.7» (COBRA probably from Langley.) Mention they are going to be working around Cherry Point.
I took a guess at one point that the new ZDC freq 235.625 might be Salisbury. Guess not.
1025: F-16s from NJ-ANG Atlantic City on tac «138.425» (Turns out it's the COBRA flight...see them logged again below at 1232.)
1028: COBRA 3 calls Giant Killer on «251.6» They are sent to «310.1» where COBRA 3 tries again to call GK. (Didn't seem to make contact and I don't know where they tried next. Those two freqs are normally for entering W-110 or W-122.)
1030: GK's ops freq «391.2» active. Sounds like F-22As.
1034: Langley tac freq «257.075» active.
1049: Navy refuelers on «123.525» One of the aircraft being refueled (or just on this freq) is a WATERBUG 808.
1114: RABID 74 flight from Langley checking into GK's area at FL 230 «238.1» With Norfolk TRACON «370.925» just prior to that.
1118: McGuire tanker freq «303.0» active. (ROCCO KC-135s most often heard here.)
1122: U/I fighter chat on tac freq «140.2»
Expecting a TREND 51-56 flight of F-16s deploying home from the Gulf through this general area sometime today.
1124: GK's ops freq «292.3» active.
1125: U/I flight, suffix 11, with ZDC-Cape Charles «256.8». Asking for direct Bradley (CT-ANG home) if possible. (Turns out to be a YANKEE 11 flight of A-10s from Bradley)
This might be the flight chatting their way through the area on tac 140.2.
1139: YANKEE 11 flight handed off to ZDC-Sea Isle «281.45» where they check in.
And, yes, these are the same guys chatting on 140.2.
1141: MACE 11, flight of two, with Reagan TRACON «270.275» checking in at 12,000 feet. They can't make contact so go back to ZDC-Irons on «360.85» to get a new freq and are sent to Andrews Approach «335.5» where they do check in.
MACE might be F-16s from the IN-ANG at Ft. Wayne.
1145: MACE 11 cleared down to 3,000 feet as they approach Andrews for landing. «335.5»
1147: Navy fighter tac freq «365.7» active. F/A-18s using callsign DOG have been heard here the past few times I've caught it active.
1148: MACE 11 fighter pair to Andrews Tower for landing. «349.0» They'll land on 1L and park on the Navy side. (This may negate the IN-ANG F-16 ID. I've also got that callsign in the database for F/A-18s from California.)
1157: YANKEE 11 flight handed off to ZNY-Kennedy «282.3» where they check in. (And still chatting on 140.2.)
1204: YANKEE 11 requests a separate flight plan for 12 who he IDs as an A-10. YANKEE 11 wants a lower altitude and will leave 12 up high. He also says they are both heading for Bradley. «282.3» 11 will go to 19,000 and 12 will stay at 24,000. By 1207, 11 has made it down to 20,000. (And that's the last time I heard the flight.)
1232: NJ-ANG F-16s active on tac «138.425» It's a flight of four aircraft. (Not sure anymore if this is a NJ flight. The flight seems to just be flying through the area. They are talking about the Air & Space Museum and the sights around D.C.) This is the COBRA flight from below.
1238: WATERBUG 808 with BayWatch at 15,000 on «270.8»
1242: COBRA 1 flight with ZDC-Linden «319.1» (Sounds like the same flight logged at 1024 above. Also had 138.425 active at that time.)
1243: COBRA 1 flight handed off to ZDC-Hagerstown «227.125» where they check in.
1247: COBRA 1 flight handed off to ZNY-Harrisburg «270.3» where they check in as a flight of four, non-standard at FL 270.
There are so many users of the COBRA callsign that it's difficult to pin an ID on this flight unless they give their destination. However, terminology makes them appear to be F-16s.
1253: COBRA 1 flight handed off to ZNY-Philipsburg «306.2» where they check in as a flight of four, non-standard, two miles front to back...heading direct Syracuse.
Now I think we can pin an ID on them...F-16s from the 138th Fighter Squadron of the NY-ANG at Syracuse.
1255: COBRA 1 flight handed off to ZNY-Milton «269.1» where they check in at FL 270. Meanwhile, over on tac «138.425» they are having a cerebral conversation about overflowing pee-packs.
1258: COBRA 1 flight handed off to ZNY-Binghamton «372.0» where they check in again at FL 270 and announce as a four ship. They request lower altitude for weather reasons.
1258: WARHOG 1 (OA-10 PA-ANG Willow Grove) with Philly TRACON «317.55»
1259: COBRA 1 flight assigned flight level 19,000. «372.0» (And they disappear from listening range both here and over on tac 138.425.)
1301: Have a GYPSY aircraft checking into the Pax River area on «305.2» for an hour's worth of work. GYPSY callsign was at one time used by an F-14 squadron from Oceana. No telling which unit has it now or if that same VF-32 unit has it with new aircraft.
1304: WARHOG 1 handed off to ZDC-Kenton «354.15» where he checks in.
1312: WARHOG 1 checking into Pax area with Approach on «305.2»
The use of 122.85 could simply have been a mistake on the part of the calling aircraft. I should have added at the time that that is not the current VHF Pilot-To-Dispatch (PTD) freq for Andrews which is 139.3 for both Air Force and Navy. Each service has its own UHF PTD - USAF on 372.2 and USN on 386.8. The Navy seems to make much more use of those freqs at Andrews than does the Air Force.
1022: Flight of three F-22A aircraft from Langley on tac «233.525»
1024: COBRA 1, flight of four, with ZDC-Salisbury «257.7» (COBRA probably from Langley.) Mention they are going to be working around Cherry Point.
I took a guess at one point that the new ZDC freq 235.625 might be Salisbury. Guess not.
1025: F-16s from NJ-ANG Atlantic City on tac «138.425» (Turns out it's the COBRA flight...see them logged again below at 1232.)
1028: COBRA 3 calls Giant Killer on «251.6» They are sent to «310.1» where COBRA 3 tries again to call GK. (Didn't seem to make contact and I don't know where they tried next. Those two freqs are normally for entering W-110 or W-122.)
1030: GK's ops freq «391.2» active. Sounds like F-22As.
1034: Langley tac freq «257.075» active.
1049: Navy refuelers on «123.525» One of the aircraft being refueled (or just on this freq) is a WATERBUG 808.
1114: RABID 74 flight from Langley checking into GK's area at FL 230 «238.1» With Norfolk TRACON «370.925» just prior to that.
1118: McGuire tanker freq «303.0» active. (ROCCO KC-135s most often heard here.)
1122: U/I fighter chat on tac freq «140.2»
Expecting a TREND 51-56 flight of F-16s deploying home from the Gulf through this general area sometime today.
1124: GK's ops freq «292.3» active.
1125: U/I flight, suffix 11, with ZDC-Cape Charles «256.8». Asking for direct Bradley (CT-ANG home) if possible. (Turns out to be a YANKEE 11 flight of A-10s from Bradley)
This might be the flight chatting their way through the area on tac 140.2.
1139: YANKEE 11 flight handed off to ZDC-Sea Isle «281.45» where they check in.
And, yes, these are the same guys chatting on 140.2.
1141: MACE 11, flight of two, with Reagan TRACON «270.275» checking in at 12,000 feet. They can't make contact so go back to ZDC-Irons on «360.85» to get a new freq and are sent to Andrews Approach «335.5» where they do check in.
MACE might be F-16s from the IN-ANG at Ft. Wayne.
1145: MACE 11 cleared down to 3,000 feet as they approach Andrews for landing. «335.5»
1147: Navy fighter tac freq «365.7» active. F/A-18s using callsign DOG have been heard here the past few times I've caught it active.
1148: MACE 11 fighter pair to Andrews Tower for landing. «349.0» They'll land on 1L and park on the Navy side. (This may negate the IN-ANG F-16 ID. I've also got that callsign in the database for F/A-18s from California.)
1157: YANKEE 11 flight handed off to ZNY-Kennedy «282.3» where they check in. (And still chatting on 140.2.)
1204: YANKEE 11 requests a separate flight plan for 12 who he IDs as an A-10. YANKEE 11 wants a lower altitude and will leave 12 up high. He also says they are both heading for Bradley. «282.3» 11 will go to 19,000 and 12 will stay at 24,000. By 1207, 11 has made it down to 20,000. (And that's the last time I heard the flight.)
1232: NJ-ANG F-16s active on tac «138.425» It's a flight of four aircraft. (Not sure anymore if this is a NJ flight. The flight seems to just be flying through the area. They are talking about the Air & Space Museum and the sights around D.C.) This is the COBRA flight from below.
1238: WATERBUG 808 with BayWatch at 15,000 on «270.8»
1242: COBRA 1 flight with ZDC-Linden «319.1» (Sounds like the same flight logged at 1024 above. Also had 138.425 active at that time.)
1243: COBRA 1 flight handed off to ZDC-Hagerstown «227.125» where they check in.
1247: COBRA 1 flight handed off to ZNY-Harrisburg «270.3» where they check in as a flight of four, non-standard at FL 270.
There are so many users of the COBRA callsign that it's difficult to pin an ID on this flight unless they give their destination. However, terminology makes them appear to be F-16s.
1253: COBRA 1 flight handed off to ZNY-Philipsburg «306.2» where they check in as a flight of four, non-standard, two miles front to back...heading direct Syracuse.
Now I think we can pin an ID on them...F-16s from the 138th Fighter Squadron of the NY-ANG at Syracuse.
1255: COBRA 1 flight handed off to ZNY-Milton «269.1» where they check in at FL 270. Meanwhile, over on tac «138.425» they are having a cerebral conversation about overflowing pee-packs.
1258: COBRA 1 flight handed off to ZNY-Binghamton «372.0» where they check in again at FL 270 and announce as a four ship. They request lower altitude for weather reasons.
1258: WARHOG 1 (OA-10 PA-ANG Willow Grove) with Philly TRACON «317.55»
1259: COBRA 1 flight assigned flight level 19,000. «372.0» (And they disappear from listening range both here and over on tac 138.425.)
1301: Have a GYPSY aircraft checking into the Pax River area on «305.2» for an hour's worth of work. GYPSY callsign was at one time used by an F-14 squadron from Oceana. No telling which unit has it now or if that same VF-32 unit has it with new aircraft.
1304: WARHOG 1 handed off to ZDC-Kenton «354.15» where he checks in.
1312: WARHOG 1 checking into Pax area with Approach on «305.2»
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257.8
Is anyone picking up transmissions on 257.8.
I know it is Baltimore tower but it doesn't match up with 119.4
It is not real strong signal wise. OR..am I hearing things?
Tin, are you getting a good signal?
20:44 I am only picking it up on the Pro 2006. No other radio is picking it up.
Jack
Is anyone picking up transmissions on 257.8.
I know it is Baltimore tower but it doesn't match up with 119.4
It is not real strong signal wise. OR..am I hearing things?
Tin, are you getting a good signal?
20:44 I am only picking it up on the Pro 2006. No other radio is picking it up.
Jack
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TinEar
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Yeah, I noticed it this morning Jack. It's duplicating the ground station for the Clearance Delivery freq at BWI of 118.05. This is the first time I've heard it in that function.
Alan
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n3bxv
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TinEar said:
Still may not negate the F-16 ID, since the DC ANG facilities are on the Navy side, are they?
The New Yahoo Maps beta has some fairly up to date images of Andrews, since it shows KC-135s on the AFRC ramp...
Slow night.....
2100 DeeCee-11 Heavy with Liberator Ops<351.2> and Potmac TRACON <missed>
edit to add -Beat me to it freqhopping!
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Got some A/R about to take place on 238.9. Partial callsign of RUBY for one of them. Could be an F-15 from Langley. It will take place in AR636 which is offshore from Norfolk.
2057- Had DEECEE-11 on 351.2 saying they were returning early. Their receiver for AR cancelled.
2057- Had DEECEE-11 on 351.2 saying they were returning early. Their receiver for AR cancelled.
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Chuck, yes, Navy, DC-ANG and the 756th are all on the east side of the runways. (That also explains why the DC-ANG always wants runway 1R or 19L.) My rationale for what I said was based on the MACE flight specifically mentioning "Navy" side rather than Air Force if they were here to work with the DC-ANG. That's sort of a tenuous tie-in I know. They might not be here to work with anyone based here and just to perform a DRAGO flyby for all I know.
Coast Guard news,
From Mark in KCHS who tracks CG assets formerly from the now expired WUN Radio club sent along this interesting tidbit regarding CG choppers moving from Atlantic City to Reagan.
 It was reported in Combat Aircraft that the Coast Guard will acquire 7 additional armed HH-65's to support their new National Capital Region defense mission. Three HH-65s from CGAS Atlantic City will be forward deployed to Reagan National Airport.
See if we catch them maybe this busy Summer...
Mark
From Mark in KCHS who tracks CG assets formerly from the now expired WUN Radio club sent along this interesting tidbit regarding CG choppers moving from Atlantic City to Reagan.
 It was reported in Combat Aircraft that the Coast Guard will acquire 7 additional armed HH-65's to support their new National Capital Region defense mission. Three HH-65s from CGAS Atlantic City will be forward deployed to Reagan National Airport.
See if we catch them maybe this busy Summer...
Mark
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