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It is very possible those are the test Control Frequencies mentioned in this post
VIPER Statewide Radio System Discussion
In anticipation of the upcoming July 1, 2025, activation of TDMA (P25 Phase 2), VIPER has been diligently working to allow end-user and radio service shop programmers to start testing and verification. To that end, we have enabled TDMA on a select number of sites distributed across the state...
It is very possible those are the test Control Frequencies mentioned in this post
VIPER Statewide Radio System Discussion
In anticipation of the upcoming July 1, 2025, activation of TDMA (P25 Phase 2), VIPER has been diligently working to allow end-user and radio service shop programmers to start testing and verification. To that end, we have enabled TDMA on a select number of sites distributed across the state...forums.radioreference.com
There are no test frequencies. VIPER will use the same control channels, voice frequencies, and talkgroups, but the modulation will change to TDMA. If you have found new control channels, it is because they were shuffled around, likely from the capacity build-out/realignment that took place several years ago now.
I think many will be underwhelmed come July 1st. Without paying close attention or watching on a decoding program, most won't even know traffic has switched to phase II unless they realize they're missing traffic and only using a phase I capable receiver.
I hope you are correct and it's seamless for everyone, since everyone had the heads up this has been in the works 2 years now. I just received 3 Bcd536 scanners to replace my old faithful pro2096 units. I just updated the firmware, upgraded to nxdn and dmr and programmed them as of last night
The different control frequency wasn't reported by the same site about 2 months ago when I was driving around in that area and I had my laptop running pro96com and using a ws1040 scanner on the control channel. I always take screenshots when I drive to sites just in case I forget to write down everything on my notepad when I am away. It's easier to look at the screenshot if needed than drive a couple of hours back to the same site a 2nd time.It is very possible those are the test Control Frequencies mentioned in this post
VIPER Statewide Radio System Discussion
In anticipation of the upcoming July 1, 2025, activation of TDMA (P25 Phase 2), VIPER has been diligently working to allow end-user and radio service shop programmers to start testing and verification. To that end, we have enabled TDMA on a select number of sites distributed across the state...
I have checked 5 sites around me today and every one I checked was as they were several months ago
Richard
I've been listening to test traffic on SW Events Tango 1-4 and have made NO changes to my scanner.
It's very possible that the reason the Winfall site controller was changed was the fact that it had been a frequency that was not listed on the FCC License for that site, and it was changed to another frequency listed on the FCC License. As far as the Ahoskie site is concerned, no other frequencies were added, just one of the non controller frequencies was designated as a controller frequency but the existing controller frequencies was changed. So nothing was affected scanner listening wise. Probably changed by accident. I didn't see any other sites that were disturbed settings wise after the Phase 2 in my local area (I checked a bunch in the northeast part of the state in the past few days).
Richard
Richard
The below list is of unidentified TGs heard in the past week, in case anyone has any clue.
Talkgroup | RIDs Seen | RID Original seen TG | RID Agency |
52845 | 2143598, 2143659 | | UNC |
52058 | 2102511 | | NC SBI |
52684 | 2147500 | | NC SBI Possibly |
52694 | 1834576 | | Raleigh PD |
52800 | 2078471 | 52572 WakeMed LE Disp | WakeMed |
52259 | 1844126 | | Wake County SO |
52337 | 2160xxx | 52803 (not in DB), 52160 (Trp C) | NC SHP |
52338 | 2160xxx | 52803 (Not in DB), 52160 (Trp C) | NC SHP |
60809 | 29153xx | | |
60810 | 29153xx | | |
60811 | 29152xx | | |
Helo "GUARD478" a SC ANG helicopter, communicating on Statewide Events TG Alpha 1 with Burke County on a medical run with RID 5547065
52259 is Statewide Law. 52800 is in the DOC radios, along with 52801, 52802, 52805, and 52811.
52259 SW LAW was removed from the current template for Viper radios and removed from the database, and 52800 wasn't being used by a DOC radio, nor was it in that range for them which is 51615 to 51687 and 60918-60932 for probation, shared with Federal Probation (I have never heard DOC use any of the TGs you mentioned) as you can see below.
| 52799 | ce3f | D | LZ PIED 2 | LZ Piedmont 2 | EMS-Tac | State Office of EMS |
| 52816 | ce50 | D | SW CONF | Statewide Conference Channel | Interop | Statewide Interop |
The 608xx TGs should be federal going by the numbers. What agency, I dunno. Were they encrypted or did you capture any audio? How about date and time of use? Might help get a feel of the users. I'll plug those in my scanner
Richard
Richard
Those three TGs and RIDs have been a mystery for years, they are always encrypted and no other RIDs other than the 29152xx and 29153xx RIDs.
Today I wasn't listening full time, but here are the hits I got;
06/13/2025 12:31:31 | Affiliate | 60811 | T: 157 DT: 6/13/25@12:31 | 2915283 |
06/13/2025 12:50:42 | Affiliate | 60811 | T: 157 DT: 6/13/25@12:31 | 2915283 |
06/13/2025 09:43:17 | Affiliate | 60809 | T: 157 DT: 6/12/25@12:43 | 2915319 |
06/13/2025 16:12:23 | Affiliate | 60809 | T: 157 DT: 6/12/25@12:43 | 2915319 |
06/13/2025 16:12:23 | Affiliate | 60809 | T: 157 DT: 6/12/25@12:43 | 2915319 |
06/13/2025 16:14:27 | Affiliate | 60809 | T: 157 DT: 6/12/25@12:43 | 2915319 |
06/13/2025 16:14:27 | Affiliate | 60809 | T: 157 DT: 6/12/25@12:43 | 2915319 |
06/13/2025 16:08:48 | Affiliate | 60810 | T: 157 DT: 6/13/25@16:08 | 2915327 |
06/13/2025 16:12:30 | Unaffiliate | 0 | | 2915327 |
06/13/2025 16:12:42 | Affiliate | 60810 | T: 157 DT: 6/13/25@16:08 | 2915327 |
06/13/2025 16:29:01 | Affiliate | 60810 | T: 157 DT: 6/13/25@16:08 | 2915327 |
06/13/2025 11:22:40 | Affiliate | 60809 | T: 157 DT: 6/12/25@12:43 | 2915329 |
06/13/2025 16:14:27 | Affiliate | 60809 | T: 157 DT: 6/12/25@12:43 | 2915329 |
06/13/2025 16:14:27 | Affiliate | 60809 | T: 157 DT: 6/12/25@12:43 | 2915329 |
06/13/2025 16:47:44 | Affiliate | 60809 | T: 157 DT: 6/12/25@12:43 | 2915329 |
06/13/2025 16:48:06 | Unaffiliate | 0 | | 2915329 |
Wow I guess I need to start monitoring more, and was wondering if any Counties or Citys decided not to use Viper anymore due to P-2 and i will be looking for new TGs
Is the data listed in the DB for the Concord site accurate? I added it to my G5 and get nothing, not seeing the site at all. Can pick up Heathway Dr just fine in downtown Concord though...
I'm guessing you have programmed it in as a separate site, not combined with the Heathway Dr site? In Raleigh there are three main sites and if I try to combine them two are silent, separately (one per knob) I pick them all up.
Correct. It worked with the old data, then I updated to the newly posted data and get nothing.
Have you tried going back to the old data, to see if the update was incorrect?
