Any word on the status of NXDN support?

[AggieCon]

I always assumed it was a filter (hardware) issue with the Uniden, but I haven't really tested that. The channels are a lot narrower and I wouldn't be surprised if there are instances of two NXDN frequencies fitting in the 536 filter... I suppose it could be tuned off to the side, but I really don't know.

Whistler's "support" of NXDN is very generous use of the word "support." It was more like changing a couple lines of coding to tell the vocoder to accept a different baud rate and detecting the voice frames. It doesn't decode control channels. It gets fouled up by data. It doesn't decode the radio ids. And their implementation, similar to DMR, is just another patch on top of their firmware and software that doesn't flow, hurting the user experience. Those scanners are in need of a complete top to bottom rewrite, but don't hold your breath on that.

I fully expect that if Uniden releases something, it will be a more professional implementation.

I hope that Uniden might reach out to give me some head time so my websites can support any new protocols released. Whistler did not, even though I asked ahead of time. When they launched, they had catastrophic software issues that prevented importing NXDN. On launch day, hearing hours after the launch, I got to work and within that same day supported NXDN imports from Digital Frequency Search, which was operational long before their other import issues were worked out.

 

[icomuser]

I would settle for conventional NXDN which the railroads will probably be using in most circumstances. At least I now feel somewhat encouraged.

 

[fourthhorseman]

Its been some time since Ive been able to get onto the RR forums,,

At the risk of getting flamed,

What is the likely chance the 436 will be open for FW upgrade to NXDN.
Keep in mind Ive not been in the loop for almost a year, so if this is covered somewhere,
please PM a link..
At this point Im looking at the TRX, but would rather keep it uniden..since I sold all of my GRE
gear after the shuttering in Japan.( with the exemption of a few super amps)

I know UNIDEN gets crap for the roll out of DMR..but I personally had a fine time
with it.

So..whats the word on this...Im at a X-road of either droppin 500..or waiting for the upgrade.

 

[jonwienke]

There's no hardware reason the x36 line can't do NXDN. The firmware could be updated, it's just a matter of whether Uniden chooses to do it. I would wait.

 

[troymail]

So..whats the word on this...Im at a X-road of either droppin 500..or waiting for the upgrade.

You could wait - and be waiting a long time (or not). You never know - it might require buying new hardware either way... (or not).

 

[fourthhorseman]

You could wait - and be waiting a long time (or not).

yep..thats my dilemma..

 

[enosjones]

Upman had posted of something in the works that "we would go Ape over" . I'm not saying it's NXDN, but I'm not saying it isn't, either.. We will have to wait and see


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[werinshades]

Upman had posted of something in the works that "we would go Ape over" . I'm not saying it's NXDN, but I'm not saying it isn't, either.. We will have to wait and see


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What's sad is we have seen these "encrypted" messages for years in regards to product improvements. Many here have asked some legitimate questions and would like to purchase Uniden over Whistler for NXDN, but never seem to get a straight answer. I've seen the "Uniden will tell you when it knows" excuse too often. Whistler seems to respect it's customers a little bit more in regards to future upgrades/products. Like I've said before, people would more likely hold on to their money and purchase a Uniden product if they had a clue as to what is coming in the future. It's a silly game we continue to be a part of.

 

[UPMan]

Sorry, but I have no intention of exposing our product roadmap to Whistler Wendy (although she is very nice and I do appreciate the good wishes she recently sent to me).

 

[55engine]

My question is will the scanners 436 536 ever do nxdn

 

[lucky43113]

i never saw the appeal in monitoring railroads maybe my area is just boring

 

[hiegtx]

My question is will the scanners 436 536 ever do nxdn

Unfortunately, nothing has been announced either way- whether Uniden will, or will not have a NXDN upgrade released. They typically do not announce updates and upgrades until shortly before the actual time of availability. For now, the only scanner choice for NXDN are Whistler's TRX-1 & TRX-2.

 

[G7HID]

And AOR AR-DV1....

Mike

 

[Eugene]

I don't listen to NXDN and probably never will....but one mans meat is another mans poison. There are people who want to listen to NXDN and they should be able to. However after reading UPMan's comment, in these days of industrial espionage, I can better understand his concern about giving his competition the one-up on their work. I guess the bottom line is, wants are not needs and we just have to wait. Patiently (or not)

Eugene KG4AVE

 

[K2KOH]

I still think Uniden is trying to figure out how to actually track a NXDN system, unlike how Whistler does it

 

[garys]

I think you may be right. I seem to remember that some Whistler owners were less than pleased with how their implementation of NXDN works on trunking systems.

I still think Uniden is trying to figure out how to actually track a NXDN system, unlike how Whistler does it

 

[hiegtx]

I still think Uniden is trying to figure out how to actually track a NXDN system, unlike how Whistler does it

I think you may be right. I seem to remember that some Whistler owners were less than pleased with how their implementation of NXDN works on trunking systems.

I would agree with both of you on this. The 'free' Whistler updates for DMR (and NXDN) are based on scanning simply the emission codes for those formats, not utilizing the actual trunking protocol for those systems. For a small, not overly busy, system, it works fairly well, but might not be effective on a larger, much busier, system. For the local system that I monitor, the TRX-1 works reasonably well, but generates a lot of spurious wildcard hits due to the way this system is set up.

UPMan had said in the past that their reason for the paid (versus free) updates was that they were paying a royalty for each upgraded scanner, in order to use the trunking procedures. The fact that Uniden has not released NXDN could be either they are having an issue making the scanners track correctly, or possibly because they have not been able to reach an agreement to license the NXDN system (or possibly, not at a feasible cost). Since Whistler does have a horse in the NXDN race, I would think that Uniden would not simply ignore it. But making it work, and at a reasonable licensing fee, may be an issue. I would note that Whistler has not released a ProVoice upgrade. While that is a slowly disappearing format, it is still in use in a few areas.

 

[devicelab]

Title is pretty self explanatory... any ETA on an update?

 

[kma371]

Title is pretty self explanatory... any ETA on an update?

As noted on several other threads, uniden hasn't and will not post anything until it's set to be released. When they have something, they will post it.

 

[K2RNI]

I agree, once Uniden can do NXDN, it will have the next edge of commercial scanners by far. :wink:

Not really. The 436hp is so deaf. The 996p2 with NXDN would be great tho. A nice scanner that doesn't need a wall of loosely put together excuses to justify it.