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I’ve been trialing the newer talk permit tone feature on my APX6000. All parameters are met for this to work… and it works fine when scanning is off. When scan is on I get the “bonk” more often than not and I have to press the PTT a few times to get a channel grant. Is there something in CPS that I am missing that may cause this issue when the radio is scanning?
 
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In your scan list, is it set to "selected channel" or "talkback"?
 
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Sorry, at the time of posting I wasn't near a computer so I didn't have the exact phrasing.

What is your "Designated Voice Tx Member Type"?
 
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tmahoney748 said:
I’ve been trialing the newer talk permit tone feature on my APX6000. All parameters are met for this to work… and it works fine when scanning is off. When scan is on I get the “bonk” more often than not and I have to press the PTT a few times to get a channel grant. Is there something in CPS that I am missing that may cause this issue when the radio is scanning?
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I *think* Convemtional TPT needs specific packets to be received from a repeater before the conventional PTP is emitted.

I don't believe conventional TPT will function on a non repeated channel
 
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I *think* Convemtional TPT needs specific packets to be received from a repeater before the conventional PTP is emitted.

I don't believe conventional TPT will function on a non repeated channel
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You are correct. My issue arises when the scan function is turned on. When the radio isn’t scanning the feature works perfectly fine.
 
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Speaking of the TPT, I’m surprised the DVRS trick that works on the XTS5K series doesn’t work with the APX.
 
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Speaking of the TPT, I’m surprised the DVRS trick that works on the XTS5K series doesn’t work with the APX.
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Not required for APX as it’s now released in the newest FW versions. FW 33… something I can’t remember exactly for ANs, and I believe after R30 or 31 they introduced it on conventional, and configurable on a per personality basis for P25 conventional
 
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Not required for APX as it’s now released in the newest FW versions. FW 33… something I can’t remember exactly for ANs, and I believe after R30 or 31 they introduced it on conventional, and configurable on a per personality basis for P25 conventional
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With the APX the TPT conventional is only though a repeater not simplex. The XTS DVRS was both conventional simplex and through a repeater
 
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Ok, mine is 2 seconds. maybe try that and see how it acts. One second may not be quite enough time for the radio to decode the info from the repeater. Just a guess though.
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Didn’t work BUT (of course I’m away from my computer when I thought of this) maybe my priority channel look back time (something like that) is too short? It’s set to 550ms currently. I have better luck when my selected channel is the secondary priority channel. It may be looking back while it’s also waiting for data from the system.
 
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Didn’t work BUT (of course I’m away from my computer when I thought of this) maybe my priority channel look back time (something like that) is too short? It’s set to 550ms currently. I have better luck when my selected channel is the secondary priority channel. It may be looking back while it’s also waiting for data from the system.
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Update: had zero effect. 🤦‍♂️
 
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Late to the convo here, but the big issue with TPT is the REPEATER side, not so much the user. I cant confirm, but I suspect only Motorola Quantar style repeaters will send the correct data to enable the TPT on the end user side, AND the the repeaters have to have up to date firmware
 
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Late to the convo here, but the big issue with TPT is the REPEATER side, not so much the user. I cant confirm, but I suspect only Motorola Quantar style repeaters will send the correct data to enable the TPT on the end user side, AND the the repeaters have to have up to date firmware
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Not sure what you mean by "Quantar style repeaters", but it works just fine on GTR8000's.
 
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