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Bob, I would include the East zone in the #4 knob selection. You will receive it just find. Even with that 1 inch antenna! I would put the Statewide in knob 1 zone 2 position. Also you can receive analog with this unit, that could be Warwick PD. The DMR has plenty of ICE sites to program. This is a powerful little professional device. Just take your time, watch some youtube vids.

PS, the belt clip is a ***** to get off to install the battery. I was told to use a quarter to help remove it!
 

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OK here is where I get confused.....I have program opened to "Create new profile" but there are 11 choices! I don't know which one of these is the correct one and I dont yet know the model number of radio. There is an option that says "Search by connected device" the results below were from "Search by condition". So I guess it would make sense to wait for radio, connect it, then click "Search by connected device". (?)
I guess I could eliminate those choices that mention encryption.
 

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Bob, I would include the East zone in the #4 knob selection. You will receive it just find. Even with that 1 inch antenna! I would put the Statewide in knob 1 zone 2 position. Also you can receive analog with this unit, that could be Warwick PD. The DMR has plenty of ICE sites to program. This is a powerful little professional device. Just take your time, watch some youtube vids.

PS, the belt clip is a ***** to get off to install the battery. I was told to use a quarter to help remove it!
OK....but I dont understand what you mean by "put the Statewide in knob 1 zone 2 position..I know the Statewide is the new 700 mhz system.....and I know knob 1 is the first number on rotary knob.....but what do you mean by zone 2?
 

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For every knob position you also have zone positions. There are a lot of ways you can program this unit. I would try and just watch the videos for now and learn the SW.
 

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OK....but I dont understand what you mean by "put the Statewide in knob 1 zone 2 position..I know the Statewide is the new 700 mhz system.....and I know knob 1 is the first number on rotary knob.....but what do you mean by zone 2?
The confusion comes because you are dealing with two bands in one system, but not a problem. You can program all 5 sites into one knob and let the pager select the strongest site, this is useful if you are traveling. The problem is if you switch site boundaries the pager might not, so you'll still hear the first site well into other areas. That is a problem I had here, I'd travel to another county and I wouldn't be hearing them because the signal from the first county was too strong.
 

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OK....but I dont understand what you mean by "put the Statewide in knob 1 zone 2 position..I know the Statewide is the new 700 mhz system.....and I know knob 1 is the first number on rotary knob.....but what do you mean by zone 2?
For every knob position you also have zone positions. There are a lot of ways you can program this unit. I would try and just watch the videos for now and learn the SW.

For now, let's start with the basics and we'll move on later.
 

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The confusion comes because you are dealing with two bands in one system, but not a problem. You can program all 5 sites into one knob and let the pager select the strongest site, this is useful if you are traveling. The problem is if you switch site boundaries the pager might not, so you'll still hear the first site well into other areas. That is a problem I had here, I'd travel to another county and I wouldn't be hearing them because the signal from the first county was too strong.
Hmmmmm....interesting....I don't travel much out of my home town. Yes there is overlap of sites here.....I can hear the whole state from my location using SDS200. Maybe I can start off small with the smallest site (METRO) and just program that to start. I live pretty close to that area anyway. The Statewide 700 site is VERY strong here, but it's new and only 1 or 2 users so far. They plan to use it for public transportation and DPW's......
 

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OK here is where I get confused.....I have program opened to "Create new profile" but there are 11 choices! I don't know which one of these is the correct one and I dont yet know the model number of radio. There is an option that says "Search by connected device" the results below were from "Search by condition". So I guess it would make sense to wait for radio, connect it, then click "Search by connected device". (?)
I guess I could eliminate those choices that mention encryption.
I pick the second one:
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It's super easy to move data from one profile to another if later you need to.

Please don't underestimate the value of the public resource manager. I just checked, no profile required to do this important foundational work.

Turn off the internet and take a run at this.
 
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Bob, I would include the East zone in the #4 knob selection. You will receive it just find. Even with that 1 inch antenna! I would put the Statewide in knob 1 zone 2 position. Also you can receive analog with this unit, that could be Warwick PD. The DMR has plenty of ICE sites to program. This is a powerful little professional device. Just take your time, watch some youtube vids.

PS, the belt clip is a ***** to get off to install the battery. I was told to use a quarter to help remove it!
I think I understand a little better.....the knob with numbers, 1 ,2 3, etc contain ZONES inside them. I see what you mean....the regular RISCON 800 mhz sites could be in knob position 1, zone 1 and the STATEWIDE 700 site can go in same knob position (1) but in ZONE 2! I kind of miss when they called them BANKS......I was confusing the ZONES in the software and the SITES in a system cause sometimes sites are also called zones. OK if thats the case then I could assign knob position 2 zone 1 for analog police/fire and zone 2 in same knob position for analog HAM freqs......I am just trying to see in my mind how the software lets you set radio up. And also maybe assign knob position 3, zone 1 for DMR HAM.........so I just have to figure out how to actually do this in the software. I watched a bunch of videos but I get sidetracked when they start talking about TONES and VOICE prompts/reminders? I dont need any of that stuff. Not interested in recording...I just want this pager to work like a basic scanner. In many examples, for instance in big towns/cities in midwest, the P25 systems out there are HUGE.....the system in RI is SMALL so it should not be too hard to program the radio. And I wont be using any tones or recording or voice/tone/color alerts......too distracting.
 

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Not interested in recording...
I wasn't either but, just yesterday my wife heard a couple calls on hers and I found myself on Open MHz a little later trying to find the recording to listen to myself. I am rethinking the recording thing. I don't want to really load up the pager with tons of recordings, but again, I am rethinking it somewhat.
I think I understand a little better.....the knob with numbers, 1 ,2 3, etc contain ZONES inside them. I see what you mean....the regular RISCON 800 mhz sites could be in knob position 1, zone 1 and the STATEWIDE 700 site can go in same knob position (1) but in ZONE 2!
Just remember, it's way easier to switch knob positions than zones. (at least to me). I'd think about keeping the stuff you listen to most in one zone and then use those knob positions and then other zone(s) for perhaps another group.

Obviously in the end it's how you prefer it to be but just a thought. I know you don't have the pager in hand yet, but it's key to know you cannot switch zones while the radio is actively receiving. If you need to do that, (while actively receiving) you'll either need to leave a blank knob position to switch to, or, if the signal isn't too strong you can slightly unscrew the antenna to loose signal to switch zones.

At times it's so busy on my simulcast system, I had problems the way I had it programmed the first time, and ended up leaving a blank knob position so I could switch to that to switch zones if needed.
 

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I think I understand a little better.....the knob with numbers, 1 ,2 3, etc contain ZONES inside them. I see what you mean....the regular RISCON 800 mhz sites could be in knob position 1, zone 1 and the STATEWIDE 700 site can go in same knob position (1) but in ZONE 2! I kind of miss when they called them BANKS......I was confusing the ZONES in the software and the SITES in a system cause sometimes sites are also called zones. OK if thats the case then I could assign knob position 2 zone 1 for analog police/fire and zone 2 in same knob position for analog HAM freqs......I am just trying to see in my mind how the software lets you set radio up. And also maybe assign knob position 3, zone 1 for DMR HAM.........so I just have to figure out how to actually do this in the software. I watched a bunch of videos but I get sidetracked when they start talking about TONES and VOICE prompts/reminders? I dont need any of that stuff. Not interested in recording...I just want this pager to work like a basic scanner. In many examples, for instance in big towns/cities in midwest, the P25 systems out there are HUGE.....the system in RI is SMALL so it should not be too hard to program the radio. And I wont be using any tones or recording or voice/tone/color alerts......too distracting.
A zone is a collection of knob positions. Up to 8 knob positions in a zone. I don't know what the the max number of zones is, I have 3.
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You really need to launch the software and get started. I think you are suffering from negative learning at this point.
 

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A zone is a collection of knob positions. Up to 8 knob positions in a zone. I don't know what the the max number of zones is, I have 3.

You really need to launch the software and get started. I think you are suffering from negative learning at this point.
Agreed, get the software going and just have at it. I do not know the max number but I have 8 Zones at this point. I will likely add more later and switch some things around however, after traveling with it using different scanning methods, I want to organize some things by state a little better.
 

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RG, What about tab E1-2 Introduction. Can you see that on the G5 when ever you want. 250 characters is a good amount. It would be just enough to label each knob position.
 
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