KSP Discussion Thread

[ofd8001]

Questions:

If yes, what frequencies does it operate on?

154.66500 - Mobile Extenders gets the portable talking back and forth with the car's mobile radio and thus with the post dispatchers. PL is 186.2 or possibly 162.2.

154.92000 Portable Repeater - that is used when they have a large detail going on at a given location, such as the state fair. A repeater set-up is used. PL is 162.2. I understand that the fairgrounds repeater is always "turned on" and not just during the fair. I think it is actually located at the fairgrounds armory.

153.92000 I think this is just a simplex VHF frequency.

Note to Bubba-

You could program a VHF 1250 to hear the VHF frequencies as I'm pretty sure they are still analog. So you can hear KSP at the fairgrounds. You may also hear that 154.665 frequency if you are reasonably close to a trooper who has his mobile extender going. You would then hear all of the UHF transmissions for the given post's area. The odds of being close enough to a trooper to hear that are fairly slim.

 

[kyparamedic]

So is the trooper's ID number still transmitted when using his portable? What happens when multiple portables are in range of multiple repeaters? Are they picked up by each repeater?

 

[rcpriv]

kyparamedic-
In usual operations, the radio is programmed with and ID code (usually the Trooper's Badge Number). Computer reads each radio's ID code and dispatcher sees that unit's number on console.

 

[kyparamedic]

Is that affected though by the repeater that it's using? From what I understand, the portables are analog and is converted from or to digital via the mobile repeater.

 

[rcpriv]

Tower/repeater that radio is hitting does not effect how ID is xmitted. Comuter reads radio ID regardless of tower/repeater.

 

[kyparamedic]

I was just curious how this works being as the portable is analog VHF, transmitting to a mobile digital repeater, which I assume then transmits on UHF to a fixed repeater. I know the system itself is P25 so just trying to figure out how the whole analog VHF to digital UHF works.

 

[wkupj]

I am sure that I have overlooked this somewhere in the thread so please forgive me if this is a dumb question or I am looking in the wrong spot.

I am having a hard time programming KSP into my 396T using bcTool. I am not sure the correct settings for KSP. Also bummed out that I cant download the information on KSP through the "Import System" part of the bcTool.

Thank you in advance for any help!

 

[N4DXX]

I am sure that I have overlooked this somewhere in the thread so please forgive me if this is a dumb question or I am looking in the wrong spot.

I am having a hard time programming KSP into my 396T using bcTool. I am not sure the correct settings for KSP. Also bummed out that I cant download the information on KSP through the "Import System" part of the bcTool.

Thank you in advance for any help!

As far as any special settings there really aren't any because the ksp programs just like you would any analog frequency the only difference is the ksp is p25 digital,Just program your local post and you should be good to go and make sure you have the latest firmware in your 396 because there are reported big improvement's on the ksp system.Ksp is not trunked just like programming any other analog frequency..Hope this helps..The 396 automatically detects the p 25 signal..

 

[wkupj]

As far as any special settings there really aren't any because the ksp programs just like you would any analog frequency the only difference is the ksp is p25 digital,Just program your local post and you should be good to go and make sure you have the latest firmware in your 396 because there are reported big improvement's on the ksp system.Ksp is not trunked just like programming any other analog frequency..Hope this helps..The 396 automatically detects the p 25 signal..

Thanks timjude. In the Uniden 396T I have programmed the KSP Post 3 as a conventional system. It picks up the channels for KSP but it is just noise and tones. It is as if the Digital does not kick on. Any suggestions?

Before I had used bcTool to program my scanner I had programmed KSP and it worked but I have forgotten what I did. Still pretty new to scanning.

Thanks for your help.

 

[jerk]

Thanks timjude. In the Uniden 396T I have programmed the KSP Post 3 as a conventional system. It picks up the channels for KSP but it is just noise and tones. It is as if the Digital does not kick on. Any suggestions?

Before I had used bcTool to program my scanner I had programmed KSP and it worked but I have forgotten what I did. Still pretty new to scanning.

Thanks for your help.

Turn off CTCSS search or tones search, the 396 will not decode digital with this enabled. Also, recently I had some KSP programmed and got noise on two channels, I have not checked it out further, but my initial guess is these were not in use in my area. The voice channels worked fine.

 

[ofd8001]

One thing I have noticed is that a frequency KSP uses, is very close to a frequency used by another system and I hear bleed-over/garbage. For example, KSP uses 460.3625 on its LaGrange tower. Louisville Metro Police use 460.3750 for their warrant check channel.

That's something worth thinking about or looking into.

 

[jerk]

One thing I have noticed is that a frequency KSP uses, is very close to a frequency used by another system and I hear bleed-over/garbage. For example, KSP uses 460.3625 on its LaGrange tower. Louisville Metro Police use 460.3750 for their warrant check channel.

That's something worth thinking about or looking into.

Yes, I don't get interference on that frequency, but I'm farther out... But I did get "noise" on 460.0750 and 460.0500

460.4125, 460.1375 worked fine for me, but I am to the North away from Metro's transmitters.

I wonder if KSP get interference to their radios when in the Metro area, maybe that's why I so rarely see them

 

[unitcharlie]

On the KSP freqs where I get cross-talk I have them as MO(torola) Mode in my 96... this works failry well on interference from non-KSP freqs.... It helped on the 396 marking all the "FM" freqs as "NFM".... unfortunately, still get intermod from UHF TV stations on some freqs....

wkupj: did you get your KSP load to work? Do you have any other software besides BCTool?

 

[jerk]

Thanks timjude. In the Uniden 396T I have programmed the KSP Post 3 as a conventional system. It picks up the channels for KSP but it is just noise and tones. It is as if the Digital does not kick on. Any suggestions?

Before I had used bcTool to program my scanner I had programmed KSP and it worked but I have forgotten what I did. Still pretty new to scanning.

Thanks for your help.

I'm attaching my KSP BCD396 file to use, look at, or modify.

 

[wkupj]

I'm attaching my KSP BCD396 file to use, look at, or modify.

newsalan and unitcharlie thank you for your help, tips and patience. The scanner is working great now. Picking up KSP great with no problems.

Thanks again.

 

[catbird]

BCD996T display

Unable to find info in manual. On the display during KSP reception noticed frequency followed by P25. Display goes from P25 to LNK and back. What is LNK?

Richard

 

[unitcharlie]

Here is a link to Mark's Scanners: Easier to Read BCD996T/UBCD996T Scanner Manual that still doesn't answer your question.... on my 396 it tells me the radio is hearing a P-25 signal but no one is talking....

 

[jerk]

Unable to find info in manual. On the display during KSP reception noticed frequency followed by P25. Display goes from P25 to LNK and back. What is LNK?

Richard

LNK - appears when data on a voice channel is being received.
Normally indicates waiting or a delay for voice traffic/talking to come through in my experience.
In other words ignore it.

DAT - appears when data on a control channel is being received.
Usually this is the Control Channel.

ENC - appears when APCO P25 encrypted data is being received on a voice channel.
scanner skips over these channels, might hear slight burst of encryption.

 

[catbird]

Bcd996d ?

Thanks for the information in regards to LNK on screen during KSP digital transmissions!

Richard

 

[jpm]

Currently on my annual Myrtle Beach trip traveling through beautiful Ky on the following interstates of I-75, I-64 and I-65 with both the 250d and 396d as well. The difference was the 250d was on a magnetic mobile antenna and the 396d stock antenna. I received very clear transmissions on both scanners obviously the 396d was breaking up. I did notice far towers, can't remember which ones, but very poor transmissions. As I have stated before the far towers as I noted have always been a issue with these scanners and no I'm not busting Unidens nuts for the bad reception I was experiencing knowing distant towers will sound bad.

Just for the record I just monitored with my scanners and not worried about the laws in the states I travel through... no I did not ask the legality of monitoring in different states I JUST DID IT as the case for the last 7 years I travel in the car. Maybe us Illinoisians JUST DO IT...gansta people I guess.