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Thanks for the quick reply. Warrensville Hts./North Randall PD.

I see that it's a recent database update (highlighted in yellow). I looked for the Talk Group earlier this week, but didn't find anything. I should have checked out the Wiki for the RID.

I have been logging since someone first mentioned the TG, but I am scanning 6 systems so I really haven't figured out who is who - heard both on there. I am guessing the RIDs ending in 1700s is NRPD. I added the entries into the Wiki.
 

rbryant76

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So I have a quick question. I noticed a couple weeks ago Hamilton County and Cincinnati added a few more frequencies to the RR database.

I added these to my 436 via Sentinel. For some reason now, my Ham Co favorites will go silent randomly...if i reboot my scanner..viola, they come alive again and will randomly go dead..and ill hear nothing until another reboot.

I am thinking maybe the scanner is getting stuck on a freq and just "locking" onto that one.

Do I need all 15 or so of the frequencies published on the RR database for the Hamilton County MARCS IP system?
 

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So I have a quick question. I noticed a couple weeks ago Hamilton County and Cincinnati added a few more frequencies to the RR database.

I added these to my 436 via Sentinel. For some reason now, my Ham Co favorites will go silent randomly...if i reboot my scanner..viola, they come alive again and will randomly go dead..and ill hear nothing until another reboot.

I am thinking maybe the scanner is getting stuck on a freq and just "locking" onto that one.

Do I need all 15 or so of the frequencies published on the RR database for the Hamilton County MARCS IP system?

The only frequencies [from a P25 system] that you should be adding are the ones that are red / blue in color (control channels).

Mike
 

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That might very well change this issue..i'll report back.

It may. Just think about it -- Every additional frequency you add is another frequency that could have interference on it [or during good propagation pick up some other control channel from some other system farther away] and cause the scanner to lock onto it instead of the real control channel.

So the minimum is always good -- but, of course, if there is more than one or two control channels [as is often the case with simulcast sites], do include whatever control channels are listed.

I'm betting that removing all of the unnecessary frequencies will help ya out.

I don't like that Sentinel seems to add them all. After I set up MARCS-IP on my BCD I went through all the sites and removed all non-control channels.

Mike
 

wa8pyr

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That might very well change this issue..i'll report back.

I think I know exactly what's happening. . . your scanner is locking onto the old Hamilton County system/site, which uses the same control channels and is apparently still active, and is listed in the database as such. When you shut it off and back on again, it grabs the new site, then when it loses the control channel momentarily, grabs the old one again.

Actual user radios do not go by control channel alone; the system ID also has to match. So, they don't have this problem even though the control channels are the same.

I've asked the Ohio administrators to verify whether the old Hamilton County site is still active and if so which control channel is active, and to make the necessary changes to the database to keep this from happening.
 

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I think I know exactly what's happening. . . your scanner is locking onto the old Hamilton County system/site, which uses the same control channels and is apparently still active, and is listed in the database as such. When you shut it off and back on again, it grabs the new site, then when it loses the control channel momentarily, grabs the old one again.

Actual user radios do not go by control channel alone; the system ID also has to match. So, they don't have this problem even though the control channels are the same.

I've asked the Ohio administrators to verify whether the old Hamilton County site is still active and if so which control channel is active, and to make the necessary changes to the database to keep this from happening.

That makes sense, but is the fix just to add the control and alternates..which is just the 4 frequenices?
 

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Tom's advice described what I think happened in Franklin ,County ...until a few weeks ago they would both systems usable fwhile they made adjustments ...often P25 would not be heard and suddenly I would here them on my Pro 96 which had only the old system...until they apparently shut down the old one for good the transmission were garbled most of the time ...Now it is working well for on RS Pro-651 with RS 800MHz antenna.
 

wa8pyr

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I have just the 4 channels (one control and 3 alternates) still the same behavior.

Delete the three alternate control channels, use only the active control channel.
 

j0atm0n

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Just picked up a conversation on TG 53508 with radio id's 9300762 & 9300739 talking about getting set up for a school event & related stuff like there trying to find a football stadium in shelby county .

Any one else have any idea what this TG is used for and by whom ?
 

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FYI,

the-daily-record.com (news website in East Ohio) usually has some pretty good articles on what local public safety agencies are doing, with regard to radio comms. The news stories are only available online via a subscripton though so I'm not going to bother providing links.

I did read the follow, however, that the following are on MARCS or would be soon:

Orville PD
Wooster PD
Ashland PD
Wooster FD (and perhaps other FDs in Wayne)

I also read that Holmes Co Sheriff will be switching to MARCS. They are taking advantage of a deal for radios left over from the RNC. They change radio systems more often than most people change their underwear. Holmes Co Sheriff is currently on a Connect Plus DMR system (4 sites) run by Futronics. And they just made the move to that within the past couple of years, after having been using conventional DMR repeaters on VHF prior to that.

I also read that Millersburg PD is researching the feasibility of switching to MARCS (they are lonely, with Holmes preparing to make the move to MARCS) and feeling left out, apparently.

I also read that a new MARCS tower is going to be erected in Marshallville (Wayne Co) to provide additional coverage for all of the agencies in Wayne Co that are switching over. Additionally, an article also stated that the state of Ohio would be leasing space on a tower in New Pittsburg, OH (Wayne Co) as well -- another MARCS site? So that's the possiblity of seeing two additional MARCS sites in Wayne Co.

Apparently the following will also be receiving MARCS radios (if they don't have them already -- the article was from June 2016) -- Rittman, Doylestown, Chippewa and Milton townships and the Town & Country Fire District.

In an April 2016 article, it was stated that Mount Eaton, Dalton, Creston, Marshallville, Shreve and West Salem are attempting to get grants for radios.

All of this was read on the-daily-record.com.

Mike
 
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Just picked up a conversation on TG 53508 with radio id's 9300762 & 9300739 talking about getting set up for a school event & related stuff like there trying to find a football stadium in shelby county .

Any one else have any idea what this TG is used for and by whom ?



Ohio Bureau of Workers Compensation Region 3 Claimant Fraud. I just updated the database with several new BWC talkgroups.
 

sopranosno1

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Thanks mark.thats who i thought it was friday when they were up in the area working. Very interesting...
 

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During events this weekend in Van Wert County, I heard these:

47514 VWSO deputies referred to this as "PC1" while working traffic for a cross country event in an area affected by road construction.

47506 Convoy VFD members coordinating parade lineup
 
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