Except that 99.99999% of public safety radio and phone communications are recorded whether they are encrypted or not and the recordings are subject to Subpoena or any form of public records acts that your state has in place.
Except that 99.99999% of public safety radio and phone communications are recorded whether they are encrypted or not and the recordings are subject to Subpoena or any form of public records acts that your state has in place.
The field users don't need additional encryption keys, the console would need an additional resource (channel) for each channel to be in the patch and be configured with the correct keys for each channel. The console will decrypt the packets and then re-encrypt them with the proper key for the patched channel. You can even patch an encrypted channel to a non encrypted channel but you obviously loose all encryption on the non encrypted side.
Normally I stay out of these encryption debates, cause they're a black hole...but....
However, history has shown that just because public safety communications, in all forms, are subject to subpoena and open public records acts, that what is made public by many of the agencies themselves is frequently selective or edited in favor of said agency. It's an unpopular fact, however, it is a fact.
And often having the unedited, full dispatch (non-tactical) audio out there or immediately monitorable by the press from receivers not in control of the agencies themselves, has forced the hand of the involved agency to be completely transparent when they may have not been so otherwise, even if just by remaining silent.
ekim223
Member
This is what I have so far for the P25 P2 in Warren County:
10007: Encrypted
10132: Encrypted
11715: PennDot Warren Co
11716: PennDot ???
11719: PennDot
12000: unknown
12003: PennDot?
TG: 10007 & 10132 are encrypted. #11715 is definitely Warren Co PennDot by the locations they are discussing. #11716 sounds like PennDot by its discussing flaggers and cones. #11719 again may have been PennDot but I cannot be sure at this time. #12000 seems like radio checks. Once a unit was calling Harrisburg with a radio check. #12003 mostly appears as key ups but no talking. But I did catch a few snips of talking a couple times discussing trucks and parts.
10007: Encrypted
10132: Encrypted
11715: PennDot Warren Co
11716: PennDot ???
11719: PennDot
12000: unknown
12003: PennDot?
TG: 10007 & 10132 are encrypted. #11715 is definitely Warren Co PennDot by the locations they are discussing. #11716 sounds like PennDot by its discussing flaggers and cones. #11719 again may have been PennDot but I cannot be sure at this time. #12000 seems like radio checks. Once a unit was calling Harrisburg with a radio check. #12003 mostly appears as key ups but no talking. But I did catch a few snips of talking a couple times discussing trucks and parts.
Thanks for the update. Are there any DCNR parks in Warren County that have radios?
For PennDOT, information in this document might help in figuring out what you are hearing. I don't know how much they follow this document nowadays. The info is a bit dated. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...ggdMAA&usg=AFQjCNHAUuE8wXJb73R7FFLP0KB_b9pQ8A
The link goes to PennDOTs PUB 23 Maintenance Manual Chapter 19 covering radio operations.
The link goes to PennDOTs PUB 23 Maintenance Manual Chapter 19 covering radio operations.
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Anyone know if these new PA Commonwealth licenses are for the new system? Not much info given:
Erie County, Pennsylvania (PA) Last 50 FCC License Grants
Erie County, Pennsylvania (PA) Last 50 FCC License Grants
Those UHF licenses are for PennDOT GPS mapping.
Here is a link to a powerpoint that gives some idea of what it is for.
https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/heightmod/Presentations/PA/PANC1Harpster2011GLRHMCPSSCORSVRS.ppt
On the WQZT917 license, it says this: 90.20a - GOVERNMENT ENTITY FOR THE TRANSMISSION OF COMMUNICATIONS ESSENTIAL TO OFFICIAL GPS/RTK ACTIVITIES OF THE LICENSEE.
Some more info on the GPS system: https://www.constructionequipment.com/penndot-prepares-gps-usage-specs
This has been around for years. Unrelated to the state radio system voice network.
This has been around for years. Unrelated to the state radio system voice network.
What?
From the P25 schedule, it looks like Erie County testing will possibly begin around 8/20. I finally took the plunge and got a BCD436. Still learning how to set it up, but I did finally figure out how to make favorite lists for all the local activity as it stands now.
Not so sure I'll be able to easily figure out how to add the new state P25 system though. I'm in northern Erie County, and I'd like to provide monitoring reports as soon as testing begins here. So, if any of you guys who've been listening in Warren County can give me any tips on how to set this up, it would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Not so sure I'll be able to easily figure out how to add the new state P25 system though. I'm in northern Erie County, and I'd like to provide monitoring reports as soon as testing begins here. So, if any of you guys who've been listening in Warren County can give me any tips on how to set this up, it would be appreciated.
Thanks.
For practice try the Chautauqua Co. P25 system. You won't be able to get it from home but on PI or anywhere near the waterfront it should work with the rubber duck.
Ok I will. I have listened to it online, so I know what it should sound like. Took awhile to get used to that "unique" sound.
The new state system would be available under Warren and Dauphin counties in the Sentinel software. You would just need to add it to whatever favorite list you want it in. Then, you can set it to search new groups (I forget the exact wording, no software in front of me right now). You could also manually add new sites to the system in your favorites list. So, you could check all the licenses issued and then add each one and name it something so that it catches your eye if traffic comes across it.
jeffm77
Member
Where do i find the frequencies for the system for Allegheny, Westmoreland, butler and surrounding counties?
W3DMV
Member
OK, I have it set up in a favorites list, and I added the 3 Erie County sites listed in the license. I have set it to search ID's also. I know that PSP is encrypted in Warren County, so if it is in Erie County also will I hear anything or will any talkgroup ID's show up? If any other ID's show up, say for PennDOT, will it give me the option to add them to the favorites list as they show up?
I have yet to hear a single voice in the clear. The entire system is encrypted so far.
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