I doubt that MPT1327 networks would be supported, as GRE would have to pay to the mfr of MPT1327, and some manufacturers have the no-scanning/no-tracking as a plus on their sales (like TETRA and OpenSky)
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One of the main features of MPT1327 is that it is 'open source', and no one has to pay licence fees/royalities etc. It is probably the only true 'open source' protocol in the world.N467RX said:
No need to clutter up this thread - GRE already offered to look at MPT1327 (there's a separate thread dedicated to it) and the interest wasn't there.
windigofer said:...I've not noticed Pro-96's having that much problem with CQPSK(Admittedly, the first DSP firmware to support it was 1.2, but it's always worked fine here
As for the performance, the people who can best answer that are the beta testers, but they are probably going to be under NDAs for a bit yet.
Please, please!!! Someone let us know... This is a much needed improvement. GRE already did a better job than Uniden, but it is a big issue on the system in my area.
If the new ones don't do a better job.... well, I will be sad. So, someone please let us know!
-- Kevin
kevin - the radio isn't available yet.
rdale said:
You should have read the quoted post completely... I was referring to any beta testers...
One only needs to read any of the previos 103 posts, or even the thread title, to figure that out.
But, thanks for pointing it out, in case anyone else had not done that research.
-- Kevin
But if you read the thread, you'll see that beta testers (if any) can't talk. Every beta group I've ever been a part of required an autograph that says I'm in a lot of trouble if I mention a thing.
And here's the bigger clue -- if someone gets the radio, and is allowed to talk, they will tell us. No need to ask for their input. Everyone that has touched a radio in this thread, that's been allowed to, has posted their thoughts.
And here's the bigger clue -- if someone gets the radio, and is allowed to talk, they will tell us. No need to ask for their input. Everyone that has touched a radio in this thread, that's been allowed to, has posted their thoughts.
I think everyone understands that... but there has been a lot of confirming of different operations of this radio already...
CQPSK has been asked about by only one other member, and did not really get an answer to the question... This should be a benefit to the radio that is listed in the "features" section of the radio...
Effective handling of this type of system is, perhaps, more important than an LED changing color. If I can't listen to a system properly, what good is the color-changing light?
... and don't miss the fact I said please... twice!
-- Kevin
CQPSK has been asked about by only one other member, and did not really get an answer to the question... This should be a benefit to the radio that is listed in the "features" section of the radio...
Effective handling of this type of system is, perhaps, more important than an LED changing color. If I can't listen to a system properly, what good is the color-changing light?
... and don't miss the fact I said please... twice!
-- Kevin
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There must be 10 leds behind the little clear plastic window. Leds don't change
color based on how much current goes through them.
color based on how much current goes through them.
Going by the draft manual that says: "Programmable tri-color LED can beJohn_M said:
configured.... to eight user-defined colors and brightness levels can be specified
from thousands of possible combinations...."
I did a quick Google for "Multi-color LED" and it gave me some results for this: http://www.elexp.com/opt_rgbc.htm.
So I'm going to take a "wild guess" that you can energize more than one leg of the LED at a time to combine colors and create new ones or something along those lines....
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kikito Wrote:
Yes. There must be like an "eight color chip" to control the currents through the diodes.
I googled for it too but didn't find anything. Amazing.
Yes. There must be like an "eight color chip" to control the currents through the diodes.
I googled for it too but didn't find anything. Amazing.
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Is it true.... Really?? No manual step selection... I was hoping GRE would have had adjustable steps for setting up manual searches, and manual tuning. I can't see how they could have fumbled the ball on this one.... This scanner seems near perfect... Why would they leave out the 5, 6.25, 7.5, 10, 12.5 , 15, 20, 25, 50, 100kHz, and the 8.33kHz airband step for user selection of manually configured searches.
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walter900 said:
This is a big issue for some of us Canadians as well as some other non-US scanner heads too that live in an area where the band plan is slightly different than the US version. As it looks now, the 500/600 won't properly track a province wide Motorola system here in Ontario. That's the breaker for me, if it can't track that system no sense upgrading from my Pro-96.
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The way I read the available materials (Manual/ads/review) this won't be too much of a concern:
8.33 kHz - These ARE covered. What you may NOT have is the ability to program 25 kHz steps instead. But, 3 x 8.33 = 25 right?
I think that a lot of UHF or 700/800/900 stuff is 3.125 kHz steps--it would have to be in order to properly cover 700. This would give you 6.25, 12.5, 25, etc.
I think they already have 7.5 vs. 12.5 kHz for high band (depending on which range) I believe that this is the case on the PRO-96 already. Double each and you have the 15 & 25 kHz steps.
20, 50 & 100 kHz steps represent rarer and more specialized needs. I can't remember what if anything was mentioned about VHF low, but I'm sure it's probably 5 kHz steps given that CB & Ham is also included.
Why all these other step options aren't offered, I dunno. I"m sure that they expended plenty of brain power finding a way to improve the user-friendliness of trunk tracking.
I understand that this is not the most efficient way to search, but in Virginia we found that the PRO-96 works okay even if a trunked system feeds it a non-legit frequency. It simply tunes the closest frequency in its bandplan and you hear it fine.
I feel sure that the PSR-500 will do everything at least as well as the PRO-96, if not a vast improvement.
73/Allen (N4JRI)
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Don't misunderstand me..... GRE did a decent job with the prearranged steps (except for in a few areas of the world that is).
My issue is for searching... Say i want to search military air, i would want the option to be able to choose 100khz, because near me that is how the frequencies go.. everthing is 100khz spaced.. It would allow me to search it 4x faster than 25 or 12.5khz... Same for vhf-low band, around my area everything vhf-low public safety is 20khz spaced, 5khz would just slow the search down... and vhf-hi public safety, like fire, are all at 15khz spaced steps for me.. So... i think not having user adjustable steps will slow down searching alot.. And that is really my gripe.
GRE could very well add a step selection menu in for searching and for manual tuning very easily through firmware.
My issue is for searching... Say i want to search military air, i would want the option to be able to choose 100khz, because near me that is how the frequencies go.. everthing is 100khz spaced.. It would allow me to search it 4x faster than 25 or 12.5khz... Same for vhf-low band, around my area everything vhf-low public safety is 20khz spaced, 5khz would just slow the search down... and vhf-hi public safety, like fire, are all at 15khz spaced steps for me.. So... i think not having user adjustable steps will slow down searching alot.. And that is really my gripe.
GRE could very well add a step selection menu in for searching and for manual tuning very easily through firmware.
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And that's the inconvenience I have up here in Alaska with ALMR. They use 12.5kHz steps in the 154.650-156.24 band for the P25 trunked system. It works fine but sometimes there's frequencies that tune closer to an interference prone frequency than the right one and it makes the audio unintelligible and sometimes even gets "hung-up" from scanning. It would also be nice to just see the right frequency displayed....n4jri said:
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Too bad GRE doesn't have a rep on these boards like uniden does in the uniden section. Maybe these step issues would have gotten straightened out/added in before the ship date. I still can't believe GRE made such a modern scanner, and negleted to add a step selection for searching, manual tuning, etc.!! I have to give the "thumbs up" to uniden for watching these boards for user complaints, and then sending out firmware fixes. I just don't see GRE addressing the step issue, as to them it is probably not a problem, as the scanner is finished the way it is. The step issue is also the deal breaker for me as well.
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I have heard that GRE does monitor this board, although I don't know the user names of any of their people. The change of the face color to black may well have been in response to some postings here. The ability to upgrade the CPU functions is provided, and certainly the manual posted during the TA process was preliminary.
Ron
I have heard that GRE does monitor this board, although I don't know the user names of any of their people. The change of the face color to black may well have been in response to some postings here. The ability to upgrade the CPU functions is provided, and certainly the manual posted during the TA process was preliminary.
Ron
walter900 said:
Who knows, maybe it's possible to have the step selection added later on a firmware update?
I think more systems are and will be using different step sizes apart from the default FCC assignments, not to mention the "killing several birds with one stone" by having the selectable step sizes for international users. I know this scanner is geared towards the USA mainly but....
Did I mentioned it would be really nice if we can have selectable step sizes? :lol:
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