SIRN

[freqhopping]

Unless Frederick Co has new digital radios, the only they'd come across the channels is as a patch. Right?

 

[BM82557]

Unless Frederick Co has new digital radios, the only they'd come across the channels is as a patch. Right?

That's what I think.

 

[smwincva]

Unless Frederick Co has new digital radios, the only they'd come across the channels is as a patch. Right?

Some of the companies, namely Clear Brook (13), Gainesboro (16), Round Hill (15) & Mountain Falls (19) each have digital radios (at least in some of the units) to access the WV radio system directly. Some of the units have had digital radios for some time (several years). It's the stations further into Frederick Co that likely may not direct access to the WV system.

The patch (for the lack of a better term) is most likely for any responder without direct access.

Frederick County still operates on VHF & UHF conventional frequencies.

I have not heard talk of them considering a TRS of their own. When Winchester approached them several years ago, they turned it down, saying new tower sites would cost too much money.

Steve

 

[firemantom26]

Looks like Beaver is letting radios access the system now.

 

[jeffm77]

Hey all you guys down in W VA. I'm in Pittsburgh, PA and can pick up a new control channel, I'm guessing from the SIRN network. 407.6125. I also get 406.4125 pretty good here. Question about this system, are the same talk groups carried on both sites or does both sites have it's own talk groups? I can't pick up any other sites, only when the band is open I can pick up others. But, the 406 and 407 control channeled sites, I can pick them up all the time. Thanks guys.

 

[mule1075]

Hey all you guys down in W VA. I'm in Pittsburgh, PA and can pick up a new control channel, I'm guessing from the SIRN network. 407.6125. I also get 406.4125 pretty good here. Question about this system, are the same talk groups carried on both sites or does both sites have it's own talk groups? I can't pick up any other sites, only when the band is open I can pick up others. But, the 406 and 407 control channeled sites, I can pick them up all the time. Thanks guys.

Beaver Falls Site in Hancock County is more than likely what you are picking up new. As for the 406.4125 is the sand Springs site in Preston County and it seems to be a flamethrower I receive it on a regular basis.

 

[jeffm77]

Ok. I'd the whole SIRN network talk groups carried on these 2 sites? If not, what talk groups are?

 

[mtindor]

Ok. I'd the whole SIRN network talk groups carried on these 2 sites? If not, what talk groups are?

No, not all talkgroups are carried on there. The only time you'll hear traffic is if there is a radio affiliated with that tower and using a particular talkgroup.

At this time you are likely to hear very little on Beaver -- WVDOT, WVDNR and perhaps a random Trooper or some Brooke Co talkgroup. You might not hear anything at all throughout any given day right now. If Hancock Co Police / Fire / EMS ever convert over to SIRN, I imagine the Beaver Falls site will be very active. Until then I suspect it will see very little use.

Sand Springs is going to carry mainly Preston and Monongalia Co talkgroups. Of course, as Mule pointed out, the damned site is indeed a 'flamethrower" and I'm sure there are times when radios outside of Preston / Monongalia might are active on it.

With SIRN everything is pretty regional relative to the site. If the site is in the heart of the county, 95% of the traffic is probably traffic from within the county. If the site borders a few counties, then the majority of traffic you hear on the site will be from those counties.

Of course there are more regional talkgroups, so if WVSP Moundsville is talking to a unit down in Ohio or Marshall Co and there happens to be a trooper up in Hancock Co whose radio is affiliated with the Beaver site, you'll hear that traffic on the Beaver site.

Same exact way that any wide area trunked system operates. None of the statewide systems broadcast the same traffic over all towers at once. That is a huge waste of resources.

Mike

 

[jeffm77]

Ok. Thanks Mike. I was just curious how the system was set up. I can pick up these two sites very well here in Pittsburgh.

 

[rescue674aa]

Logan Co

Does anyone know the IDEN band plan for the state system?

 

[mtindor]

Does anyone know the IDEN band plan for the state system?

I think just about every SIRN newsletter lists it.

https://sirn.wv.gov/information/Documents/2018 01 SIRN-Newsletter.pdf

Also check at the top of the DB listing (although it's not complete since there are also 400 mhz frequencies in use at various sites):

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=4076

Mike

 

[mtindor]

WVSIRN Sites Not Confirmed Online Yet

Below is a list of known WVSIRN sites not confirmed as online yet.

If you live anywhere near these sites (close enough to pick them up reliably) or if you live near neighboring sites and can use Pro96Com / Unitrunker / DSDPlus to obtain a peer/neighbor list with the RFSS-Site and frequency of the peers/neighbors, please attempt to verify whether any of these sites are online.

1-021 Valley Head / Wares Ridge (Randolph)
WQVL727
38.515000, -79.994444
453.25
453.2875
453.6375
453.7875
453.8375
460.2125

1-xxx Flatwoods (Braxton)
WRAG836
38.72864,-80.66342
453.075
453.5375
460.0625
460.225
460.375
460.525

2-xxx Sandyville (Jackson)
WQZE875
38.91452, -81.6655
453.55
453.675
453.95
460.125
460.500
460.625

2-xxx Summersville (Nicholas)
WRAA324
38.28197, -80.86863
451.900
452.125
460.7125
460.7875
461.6625
461.775

3-005 Weirton (Hancock/Brooke)
WQOX971 / WRAV442
40.381417, -80.599972
453.800
460.1625
461.4125
462.45
463.6625
464.0625

If you confirm any sites as being online by monitoring them directly, please submit/post the RFSS-SiteID, active control channel and any other active frequencies, as well as a peer/neighbor list.

If you are monitoring a neighboring site to one of these and are using DSDPlus, Pro96Com or Unitrunker, the important thing to get is the peer/neighbor list. That list will contain the RFSS-SiteID of all peers/neighbors as well as the current active control channel of each of those peers/neighbors.

Thank you,

Mike

 

[n4jri]

I think just about every SIRN newsletter lists it.

https://sirn.wv.gov/information/Documents/2018 01 SIRN-Newsletter.pdf

Also check at the top of the DB listing (although it's not complete since there are also 400 mhz frequencies in use at various sites):

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=4076

Mike

Looking at the bandplan in the 2018 Newsletter, I'm thinking there may be a type.

I assume that columns 3, 4 & 5 are the actual table numbers what would prefix the channel #.

Base freqs respectively are listed as 453.025, 450.000, and 400.000. Should the second one (column 4) actually be 460?

73/Allen (N4JRI)

 

[mtindor]

Looking at the bandplan in the 2018 Newsletter, I'm thinking there may be a type.

I assume that columns 3, 4 & 5 are the actual table numbers what would prefix the channel #.

Base freqs respectively are listed as 453.025, 450.000, and 400.000. Should the second one (column 4) actually be 460?

73/Allen (N4JRI)

They have been listing it that way for at least two years now. I'd bet it is corrrect (at least for programming their commercial radios).

And keep in mind that various sites use FBI/Federal frequencies down in the 400 range, so I'm sure that's why plan 5 exists.

How it gets programmed into a Uniden or GRE scanner based upon that information, I don't know. I don't program in custom bandplans. I use scanners that actually read the bandplans broadcast on the control channel and use them accordingly.

If in doubt, fire up Pro96Com or Unitrunker on a SIRN site and fetch the bandplan right off of the control channel.

Mike

 

[BM82557]

Does anyone know the IDEN band plan for the state system?

Fyi -

 

[firemantom26]

Fyi -

Hancock and Brooke county should be active soon.


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[n8jsw]

I Hope by the end of the month maybe???

 

[Johnstino]

Brooke/Hancock

The Weirton towers is still decommissioned isn’t it???

 

[mtindor]

The Weirton towers is still decommissioned isn’t it???

Man, just program it in why don't ya. All of the information has been given as to what the likely frequencies will be, and it has already been reported that progress is being made.

Nobody decommissioned the Weirton tower site. Yes, last year the SIRN meeting minutes and / or other reports suggested that they took some equipment from Weirton to light up Summersville -- but Summersville isn't online yet for other reasons (apparently access road improvements needing to be made), and so my guess is that the requisite equipment required is already in Weirton.

I know, you're just waiting for somebody to report it as being online. But, you could program the site into your own scanner now and then might be the first person to hear a peep out of it when it does come online. Then you could let us all know.

Mike

 

[n8jsw]

The Weirton towers is still decommissioned isn’t it???

Just like mike said the tower is still up there and now that beaver site is online it is really safe to say that weirton will be on hopefully within the next month. I check this everyday when at work and/or home