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Went through the recordings again last night to see if I could catch anything else. After replaying the original audio numerous times (said it too fast for my ears to catch this time), the RID 14056 radio check was done by Car 47 (aka 15-47). Later that night, when he went 10-7 with overtime under the "funeral detail code", checked in using RID 16424, which is not the norm or a Pool/Utility Car's signature. So after further review @Mex, you were on to something here and I'm wondering if this was a specialty vehicle in use during the funeral precession?
FWIW, there are a number of 14xxx RIDs that are assigned to and used by outside agencies, including fire departments whose normal response areas include tollway right-of-ways.
 
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FWIW, there are a number of 14xxx RIDs that are assigned to and used by outside agencies, including fire departments whose normal response areas include tollway right-of-way.
After listening a few more times, it was Car 47 asking on T-15 South around 1520 Hrs. I was thinking of a Troop 15 motorcycle because the other motorcycle units start with a prefix depending on the "old" zone assignments of 140xxxx, 240xxxx, 340xxxx. They previously used a 153xxx prefix. Will keep an ear and eye on it 😁.
 

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Found something odd with Ameren IL

Site location - Centralia, IL

There is a new frequency attached to this site
3 (3)014 (E)Centralia

Monitoring the control channel of 770.16875, DSDplus also identifies a new frequency attached to that control channel and broadcasting on 856.9125, channel number 0-945.

This frequency is mainly being used by unencrypted Ameren along with various encoded private calls. Ameren heard on this are
TGs 7518 and 7523.

If I edit the frequency list in both the BCD536hp and 436 for the centralia site to include 856.9125, the radios will not stop and receive the audio on that frequency. Even edited the Dix site to include that also, but will not receive it. If I perform a trunking discovery on the centralia tower site, it will pick up all radio traffic from all talkgroups except anything Ameren. BUT, if I do a conventional discovery with just that specific frequency to be searched, the Ameren radio traffic works perfectly.

Radio has the most current firmware update. Am I doing something wrong or has something changed somewhere.
 

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I believe that I may have determined the user of the SC21 16900x RIDs. RIDs 169000-169003 have previously been logged affiliating with TG 36598 on Site 111 (Rockford Simulcast). In listening to recordings of TG 30328 (Illinois Calling / IESMA Statewide) from Friday, I heard 169003 with the apparent wrong-channel transmission "Mall Security to CVPD".

My guess is that these are mall security units at Cherry Vale Mall in Cherry Valley (a "suburb" of Rockford). If this is correct, CVPD would be Cherry Valley PD.

Now to determine what TG 36598 is used for. According to the Radio Reference SC21 wiki page, it appears to be one in a block of TGs (36576-36599) previously logged with affiliations/activity on Site 111. Has anyone monitored unencrypted voice on these TGs?
 

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I did hear last week two guys talking on TG36598 and they were not enc and did not catch what they were talking about, this was on T1-02,....I programmed it in the scanner and have not had anymore audio from it, I'm sorry but I didn't see if it was Phase lol either,....
 

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Troop 15 (Tollway) is changing up the radio structure a bit. Recently heard a Car 3xx series units making traffic stops, which previously were used by Probationary Troopers. When they cleared, they weren't clearing as "Probationary", but clearing as a "non-Probationary" trooper.

Started hearing the Radio Lab units asking for "signal check and ID" on the MP (Motorcycle Patrol/ RID's 15380-15386) Units. They're coinciding with the new Car 3xx series additions. Possibility that the motor patrol units will utilize the Car 300 series radio signatures during inclement weather is what I'm thinking?

MP-101 is now MP-301 as an example.
 

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I'm still monitoring what sounds like CPD zone 7 onTG 34054 in P2 on T 1-02 in the clear , must beat rebroadcast , mobiles are 3xx numbered....
 

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Troop 15 (Tollway) is changing up the radio structure a bit. Recently heard a Car 3xx series units making traffic stops, which previously were used by Probationary Troopers. When they cleared, they weren't clearing as "Probationary", but clearing as a "non-Probationary" trooper.

Started hearing the Radio Lab units asking for "signal check and ID" on the MP (Motorcycle Patrol/ RID's 15380-15386) Units. They're coinciding with the new Car 3xx series additions. Possibility that the motor patrol units will utilize the Car 300 series radio signatures during inclement weather is what I'm thinking?

MP-101 is now MP-301 as an example.
15-38 (Car 38) went 10-41 tonight "using pool car 552" under RID 47552. I'm assuming this is 15-552 which is new in the Troop 15 call sign structure for pool cars and that usually are in the "Car 200 series range" (15-200 to 15-299.)
 

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15-38 (Car 38) went 10-41 tonight "using pool car 552" under RID 47552. I'm assuming this is 15-552 which is new in the Troop 15 call sign structure for pool cars and that usually are in the "Car 200 series range" (15-200 to 15-299.)
Radio shop checked in a short time ago with "15-542 Mobile" (RID 47542).

It appears they're starting to use the lower 200 series as patrol. Car 211 (15-211), used the portable today (RID 16211), and came up as Car 211.
 

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Troop 15 (Tollway) is changing up the radio structure a bit. Recently heard a Car 3xx series units making traffic stops, which previously were used by Probationary Troopers. When they cleared, they weren't clearing as "Probationary", but clearing as a "non-Probationary" trooper.

Started hearing the Radio Lab units asking for "signal check and ID" on the MP (Motorcycle Patrol/ RID's 15380-15386) Units. They're coinciding with the new Car 3xx series additions. Possibility that the motor patrol units will utilize the Car 300 series radio signatures during inclement weather is what I'm thinking?

MP-101 is now MP-301 as an example.

15-38 (Car 38) went 10-41 tonight "using pool car 552" under RID 47552. I'm assuming this is 15-552 which is new in the Troop 15 call sign structure for pool cars and that usually are in the "Car 200 series range" (15-200 to 15-299.)

Radio shop checked in a short time ago with "15-542 Mobile" (RID 47542).

It appears they're starting to use the lower 200 series as patrol. Car 211 (15-211), used the portable today (RID 16211), and came up as Car 211.
The changes continue:

"Radio 5 signal check and ID" (RID 15433)
"Radio 5, you're 10-2 coming up K (King)-3".


I would expect the portable to be RID 16433.

[15-K9-3 currently using RID's 15141/16141].
 

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Last night copied a Troop 15 (North) car identifying as Victor 1 with radio ID 15400
Yes..the Troop 15 Vehicle Identification trooper has been out there a few weeks now.

Updated changes are occurring daily. Yesterday a trooper asked if he should use his new signature (Car 228/15-228), and was advised to continue using his old until he went 10-42.

I haven't heard any new talkgroups other than what's been documented in the database so far.
 

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TGID 2031 (T15 Detail A/Phase 1 & Encrypted) was in use this morning by two Troop 15 cars. So far, the only Troop 15 talkgroups heard in use were North Patrol/South Patrol/T15 Tollway/Detail A. Previously TGID 2028 was used for training, no other uses I've heard for that one.
 

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Troop 15 (Tollway) is changing up the radio structure a bit. Recently heard a Car 3xx series units making traffic stops, which previously were used by Probationary Troopers. When they cleared, they weren't clearing as "Probationary", but clearing as a "non-Probationary" trooper.

Started hearing the Radio Lab units asking for "signal check and ID" on the MP (Motorcycle Patrol/ RID's 15380-15386) Units. They're coinciding with the new Car 3xx series additions. Possibility that the motor patrol units will utilize the Car 300 series radio signatures during inclement weather is what I'm thinking?

MP-101 is now MP-301 as an example.

15-38 (Car 38) went 10-41 tonight "using pool car 552" under RID 47552. I'm assuming this is 15-552 which is new in the Troop 15 call sign structure for pool cars and that usually are in the "Car 200 series range" (15-200 to 15-299.)

Radio shop checked in a short time ago with "15-542 Mobile" (RID 47542).

It appears they're starting to use the lower 200 series as patrol. Car 211 (15-211), used the portable today (RID 16211), and came up as Car 211.

The changes continue:

"Radio 5 signal check and ID" (RID 15433)
"Radio 5, you're 10-2 coming up K (King)-3".


I would expect the portable to be RID 16433.

[15-K9-3 currently using RID's 15141/16141].

Yes..the Troop 15 Vehicle Identification trooper has been out there a few weeks now.

Updated changes are occurring daily. Yesterday a trooper asked if he should use his new signature (Car 228/15-228), and was advised to continue using his old until he went 10-42.

I haven't heard any new talkgroups other than what's been documented in the database so far.

TGID 2031 (T15 Detail A/Phase 1 & Encrypted) was in use this morning by two Troop 15 cars. So far, the only Troop 15 talkgroups heard in use were North Patrol/South Patrol/T15 Tollway/Detail A. Previously TGID 2028 was used for training, no other uses I've heard for that one.
Just some updates:

Yesterday afternoon, Oak Brook mentioned on the air the CAD system was in the process of "switching over", so all updates had to be done over the air.

Later that night, it was mentioned that the techs were working on the IWIN issue and to update all statuses over the air.

This morning I noticed when units were reporting 10-41, they were being asked for their ID number's if they didn't provide it. Still no confirmation or updates that this has anything to do with disbanding Troop 15 yet?

Radios continue to being updated with some new ID's. Have been hearing the lower 200 series (previously used as pool cars), now being used on patrol. For those not familiar, if a pool car was used they will advise the dispatcher that they would be using a pool car, but continue to use the assigned call sign. Portables are also coinciding with the "new" 200 series radio call signs.

**15-204 just checked in as a pool car, 15-206 is reporting as Car 206 and on patrol duties. 15-208 is also using Car 208 and on patrol duties as of today.**
 

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At the February 2023 ETSB meeting, the Jo Davies County Sheriff advised the board members that the contract to switch the whole county (including fire agencies) over to Starcom was signed and the process was started earlier this year. The feed for Jo Davies County has been down for a few weeks so I'm assuming to law has switched over already. I'm no where within range to monitor/search for new TGs, just thought I'd share in case anyone is up that way and is able to get the new info.

Edit: Just checked the feed status appears to be back online
 

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Does anyone know what TG 4499 is used for? It's shown in the database as an IDOT TG, but that might only be because sequential talkgroups below (and one above) it are used by IDOT. Broadcastify recordings over the past few days indicate that it was used by two units in the Stark County area - RIDs 437006 ("C-1") and 437026 ("C-2") for comms related to severe weather. The Stark County database and wiki pages were of no help in IDing those units.

The SC21 wiki shows that the TG was user-IDd as "demo" last month. It has also seen use by other 437xxx RIDs by units from Woodford County, Tazewell County and Hoopeston Ambulance (Vermilion County) in the past. Perhaps another Motorola demo TG, similar to TG 20?

Thanks....
 

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Does anyone know what TG 4499 is used for? It's shown in the database as an IDOT TG, but that might only be because sequential talkgroups below (and one above) it are used by IDOT. Broadcastify recordings over the past few days indicate that it was used by two units in the Stark County area - RIDs 437006 ("C-1") and 437026 ("C-2") for comms related to severe weather. The Stark County database and wiki pages were of no help in IDing those units.

The SC21 wiki shows that the TG was user-IDd as "demo" last month. It has also seen use by other 437xxx RIDs by units from Woodford County, Tazewell County and Hoopeston Ambulance (Vermilion County) in the past. Perhaps another Motorola demo TG, similar to TG 20?

Thanks....
Listening to Broadcastify I heard mention of Galva and Princeville. They are in 2 different counties, make of that what you will.
That traffic also reminded me of possibly Ameren.
Here are my 1st loggings of those 2 RIDs.

437006 TG7772 on 9-12-2019
437026 TG7768 on 6-30-2019
 
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