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Midway through the 1300 hour and there is another RAVEN flight of A-10s up from Martin State. This time they're working 142.3 tac.

Also hearing SKIER 88 (C-130 139TH AS NY-ANG SCHENECTEDY) on the 344.6 Metro freq asking for weather for KSCH (Schenectedy), KALB (Albany) and KCEF (Westover MA). That last is for 1915Z so I guess that's his destination.

1349: RAVEN 1, IDs as a flight of three A-10s on FSS 255.4 to announce entering VR-1709 for the next 30 minutes at 1000 feet and below at 300 knots.
1351: Navy SD 320 flying circles again....had him with ZDC-Cape Charles 256.8 and then handed off to ZDC-Sea Isle 281.45 where he checks in at FL 230. (Guess he's flying those round robin flights between Pax and Atlantic City.)
1354: REACH 173 has been trying to reach McGuire CP on 319.4 without success. Just changed to 134.1 and got him on the first try. Arriving 10 after the hour, is A-1, no pax, no cargo.
1358: AXEMAN 1 (A-10 MD-ANG) flight to BayWatch on 354.8 to work for the next hour in area R-6609 up to 20,000 feet. Upon completion of his work, he wants clearance back to MTN (Martin State).
1359: REACH 983 calling Andrews Dispatch and then Andrews Command Post on 378.1. No joy after several calls.

1400: Warren Grove Range active 283.1. Might be that RAVEN flight - although they said they'd be in VR-1709 for 30 minutes and that was only 11 minutes .
1402: ROCCO 84 (KC-135 McGuire) with arrival message to McGuire on squadron freq 303.0. Says he's just passing Harrisburg now and it's a bit bumpy.
1403: REACH 983 finally makes contact with Andrews and gives arrival msg. 378.1. Has Space A pax to offload.
1404: ROCCO 84 calls SWITCH Control on 303.0....says he has 36 pax on board, zero cargo. (I don't have SWITCH listed as a squadron callsign for them. Anyone have anything on it?) He also calls FOXTROT. No idea who that might be. A couple of minutes later there is another aircraft calling FOXTROT on this freq but I didn't hear a callsign from this one.) Both aircraft talked about weather with FOXTROT.
1407-13: One of the AXEMAN A-10s is talking about a problem aboard his aircraft that makes his aircraft pitch down 3 degrees when he turns a switch down and up 3 degrees when he switches it up. Can't find a happy medium. Well, yes he can...just did...says he can do level flight by trimming it up. He's talking with Raven Ops describing the problem on both 143.8 and 347.2 and settles on 143.8 as the better of the two. He's down in R-6609 (Tangier Island). Says he's going to finish his work in 6609 and then will be heading back.
1424: NAFTA 914 (this is a new one for me) on FSS 255.4 wanting departure message passed....departed MDT (Harrisburg) 1815Z and heading for GTB (Wheeler Sack Army Airfield, Fort Drum, NY)
1428: 93 (probably ROCCO 93) calling FOXTROT and asking who he's supposed to call. 303.0
1430: Aircraft all over the area reporting rain...as close to me as Aberdeen Range area as just reported by a helo. Not a single lousy drop has fallen here. Need it badly.
1440: It is the RAVEN flight working at Warren Grove Range on 283.1...and on tac 142.3.
1441: ROCCO 93 calling FOXTROT on 303.0...something about the guy behind him and whether he called for routing. Says he'd pass on the routing he got.
1443: ROCCO 93 calling ROCCO 91 to pass msg from FOXTROT about a wx warning for the McGuire area from 3-4 p.m. local. 303.0
1445: U/I aircraft (very weak) calling TORCH Control on 303.0.
1445: There is a WARDOG OA-10 with the RAVEN flight at Warren Grove. 283.1
1451: TORCH Control, which is the squadron callsign, now being called by ROCCO 93 who wants TORCH Control to contact Alpina about routing of the aircraft. Anyway, 93 should be home in about an hour - at least that's what I think he meant.

1501: BATON 55 (EC-130J, 193rd SOG Harrisburg) to Baton Ops on 395.1 with arrival message...airframe is A-3, backend just has a couple of minor writeups. Says the "test went well for the back end."
1505: BICEP 11 (F-16 NJ-ANG Atlantic City), flight of four, entering W-107 with Giant Killer on 255.0. Presently at 7000 feet, climbing to 15,000. Will work for the next 45 minutes under mission A-2803.
1515: RAVENs/WARDOG on the way home...with Raven Ops 347.2...still on tac 142.3
1516: AXEMAN flight also heading home to MTN. 347.2
1517: PAT 145 calling Andrews with arrival msg...IDs as a C-12 and picking up 2 pax and needs 300 gallons fuel....4 seats available outbound to CMY.
1519: AXEMAN flight landing MTN with Tower 297.2
1521: JOSA 868 giving arrival message to ?????? on 139.625. IDs as a C-21, tail 84-0073. ETA 1955Z, dropping off an A-5, needs zero fuel and wants to get airborne again ASAP. Only one I know for this freq is COBRA SOF at Wheeler Sack, Fort Drum. 868 is going to land on runway 28. And that's the problem...Wheeler Sack doesn't have a runway 28.
1523: REACH 981 asking for wx for Andrews at 2000Z on Metro 344.6
1527: CORSO 70 (C-130E, 198th AS, PR ANG, Luis Munoz Marin ANGB PR) calling Andrews Metro 344.6 to ask for wx for KILG (New Castle County Airport). Says he's a C-130 and is 30 miles east of Andrews.
1528: BICEP flight on tac 138.875 in ACM activity.
1529: RAVEN flight landing MTN 297.2
1530: BUCK 110 asking for WX for NHZ (Brunswick ME NAS)in 1 hour from Andrews Metro 344.6 (Texan II T-6)
1541-45: REACH 981 calling Andrews Command Post on 378.1...several times, no joy.
1555: CACTI 17 (KC-10a McGuire) calling ??? Dispatch on 372.2. Wants condition of runway. (CACRI 17 escorted a couple of F/A-18s from Europe to the U.S. earlier today. Should be going into McGuire as far as I know. Believe the F/A-18s went into Brunswick ME NAS.
1556: DC 52 (KC-135R Andrews) with LIBERATOR on 351.2 with arrival msg.

1600: And that's enough from me for now. The End. No...wait...F-22A aircraft on tac 233.525 as I start to shut down the radios. They're all yours.

Our freq from last night will become active again in about 20 minutes for those that tuned in. Those interested know which one I mean.


SHOWDOWN BREWING OVER F-22 SALES
http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,106513,00.html?ESRC=airforce-a.nl
Should we or shouldn't we?
 
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A few with the PRO-97 while out at IAD again earlier today...

07/28/2006

1408Z 128.425 IAD TWR West - JOSA 956 (C-21A 84-0135) - lands rwy 12.

1510Z 119.850 Potomac APP - COBRA 72 (C-135 61-2672 vis. conf.) - 11000 for 8000' on the arr. QSY 119.3.
1526Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - FETTER? 66 (Heavy) - deps ADW dir FLUKY.

1602Z 319.400 McGuire CP - TEAM 15 (KC-10A 2/32nd ARS McGuire) - clg here no joy.
1604Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - NAVY JV 570 (C-40A VR-58 NAS Jacksonville) - dir LDN QSY 118.67 120.65.
1608Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - BOXER 628 (201st AS DC ANG) - deps ADW.
1611Z 120.100 IAD TWR East - MUSSEL 1 - transiting the IAD Class B.
1622Z 118.675 Potomac DEP - REACH 3115 (C-17A 03-3115 183rd AS MS ANG vis. conf. finally bagged it!) - dir MANNE QSY 119.85 and cross ELDEE @ 8000'.
1656Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - REACH 1816 (C-17A 01-0186 62nd AW vis. conf,) - deps ADW QSY 123.82 and dir JERES.

1701Z 118.675 Potomac DEP - DC 52 (KC-135R 459th ARW AFRC) - climbing to 15000' then QSY 120.65.

1801Z 118.675 Potomac DEP - REACH 983 (KC-10A vis. conf. but no unit ID or serial poss. due a/c passing into cloud cover) - req ILS 19 cross ELDEE @ 8000'.
1802Z 378.100 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - REACH 983 (KC-10A vis. conf. but no unit ID) - 25 mins. out seven pax no cargo req. fuel and parking.
 
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What plane was this?

I saw a huge 4 engine jet plane heading west from the direction of Andrews today between 1530-1600. It sort of resembled a 747 but seemed to have a wider body and it had a strange hump on the top, not the usual hump for a 747. It was mostly white and had a blue stripe. Any ideas?

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TinEar said:
1521: JOSA 868 giving arrival message to ?????? on 139.625. IDs as a C-21, tail 84-0073. ETA 1955Z, dropping off an A-5, needs zero fuel and wants to get airborne again ASAP. Only one I know for this freq is COBRA SOF at Wheeler Sack, Fort Drum. 868 is going to land on runway 28. And that's the problem...Wheeler Sack doesn't have a runway 28.
Alan,
But COBRA SOF isn't at Drum, it's at Syracuse, which does have a Runway 28:cool:

Around the 1900 hour, Omaha 43 up with Potomac TRACON BWI, <125.525> for flight following

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1526Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - FETTER? 66 (Heavy) - deps ADW dir FLUKY.
russ29643 said:
I saw a huge 4 engine jet plane heading west from the direction of Andrews today between 1530-1600. It sort of resembled a 747 but seemed to have a wider body and it had a strange hump on the top, not the usual hump for a 747. It was mostly white and had a blue stripe. Any ideas?

Those two posts put together might make a bit a sense- Possibly the National Airborne Operations Center ??

Ref Below - Mark I didn't realize the E-6Bs had the Sat hump too...
 
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russ29643 said:
I saw a huge 4 engine jet plane heading west from the direction of Andrews today between 1530-1600. It sort of resembled a 747 but seemed to have a wider body and it had a strange hump on the top, not the usual hump for a 747. It was mostly white and had a blue stripe. Any ideas?

thanks,

russ

Could be an E-6B TACAMO aircraft.Some are based at Pax River but get into
Andrews once in a while.

http://www.55srwa.org/9804/04080472.html

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Chuck said:
But COBRA SOF isn't at Drum, it's at Syracuse, which does have a Runway 28:cool:

Of course! Talk about a "duh" moment.

Occasionally I hear U/I traffic on the National Guard common freq 246.8 and did again tonight. Turned out it was GRAYHAWK 06 (E-2C, VAW-120, Norfolk NAS) who switched from there to ZDC-Cape Charles 256.8. Heard him finally cleared direct Hampton. This was all from 2000 to 2030. Wonder what he was doing on 246.8?
 

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Between 1800 and 1900 I was able to pick up OMAHA <165.235>. It was loud and clear in Horsham, PA. Omaha was following a vehicle and talking to several units on the ground. Some very interesting Comms.

Also in the 1800 hour things were busy at McGuire and Dover. Heard numerous aircraft calling the command posts

At ~1900 Warhog 1 & 2 arrived at Willow Grove. Warhog 1 first called WG tower on VHF <119.6> to confirm parking and that the PA-ANG was expecting them. Then they switched back to Philly <291.7> before going back to WG tower on UHF <340.2> I'm pretty sure it was Warhog, but Wardog and Warthog are other possibilities.
 
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Between 1800 and 1900 I was able to pick up OMAHA <165.235>. It was loud and clear in Horsham, PA. Omaha was following a vehicle and talking to several units on the ground. Some very interesting Comms.

I followed the operation for most of the afternoon until ~2000 when it concluded. I have not heard a federal operation since I moved to Southern MD, so it was quite a treat.
 

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1410: MAZDA 41, flight of two, with Andrews Approach 335.5. (MAZDA is a callsign used for flights transitioning from Europe to the U.S.)
1411: MAZDA 43, flight of two, with Andrews Approach 335.5
1413: MAZDA 41 flight to Andrews Tower for landing 349.0
1417: MAZDA 43 flight to Andrews Tower for landing 349.0

1503: DC 61 (KC-135 756th ARS Andrews) to LIBERATOR 351.2 ...arriving in 15 minutes...says Andrews ATIS not working and wants LIB to rattle off winds/temp/pressure/altitude.
1505: DC 61 reports A-2 status...boom operator's compartment mirror needs adjusting....26K on the gas.
1550: REACH 395T, after trying several times to reach Andrews on 378.1/141.55, makes contact on the VHF freq and gives arrival message....10 after the hour is ETA, A-1 and needs parking and crew bus for 3. No pax/cargo to offload.
1557: Haven't logged it but the Northrup Grumman test flight freq 123.225 has been active since I logged that first item above.
1559: REACH 322 trying to contact Andrews on 378.1...no joy after a few calls.

1601: REACH 322 gets SAM Command on 378.1 to give arrival message....blocks at 20 after the hour, A-1, has 29 pax, 12 pallets, 1 rolling stock...needs Customs/Ag to meet the plane. 1 pallet, 12 pax offloading.
1608: REACH 339T to McGuire CP with arrival msg 319.4...IDs as a C-17 on a "depositioning leg." Blocks at 30 past the hour, is A-1, has zero offload and requests parking.

1844: CHAMPION 2760 says he's 15 minutes out...ADW Tower 118.4
1852: CHAMPION 2760 landing runway 19R with Tower 118.4

1910: Navy JS971 calling McGuire Command Post on 319.4 several times but no joy.

2010: DC 92 (KC-135R Andrews) for landing at Andrews with Tower 118.4
2015: DC 92 reports gear down for full stop landing on runway 19L. 118.4
2020: SAM 0493 landing at Andrews 118.4

2102-12: CACTI 17 calling McGuire Command post several times on 319.4....no joy. (one call he used CACTUS instead of CACTI)
2116: CACTI 17 finally makes contact with McGuire..gives arrival msg...A-1, needs gas, no pax or cargo to offload. 319.4

(Ref below): Not that I heard. Just turned on the radio and picked them up with Approach. I just sent a message asking René or Ian if they have anything from the other side of the pond about them.
Add: Ian doesn't know of anything from his end.

NOTE: Got a reply about the MAZDA flight landing at Andrews earlier today. Reply summarized as follows:
...four USN Prowlers returning from Iraq...departed from
Moron airbase Spain this morning with supporting KC-10 Blue 91
that went to McGuire AFB...should be departing back to USN Whidbey Island, WA tomorrow.

[Prowler=EA-6B]
 
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1418 - I Guess I Just missed the Mazdas.. Was there a Tanker?
Edit to Add - I saw Gregs(Saint1)'s post re the GOLD 28 Tanker, who was probably the tanker for these guys..

1634 <364.2> ?Opec?- 73 calling Huntress for Modes and Codes check... (also sounded like Offut)
 
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Re: MAZDA flight

TinEar said:
NOTE: Got a reply about the MAZDA flight landing at Andrews earlier today. Reply summarized as follows:
...four USN Prowlers returning from Iraq...departed from
Moron airbase Spain this morning with supporting KC-10 Blue 91
that went to McGuire AFB...should be departing back to USN Whidbey Island, WA tomorrow.

[Prowler=EA-6B]
Hi Tin,

For your further info and maybe your buddies overseas, the following were noted yesterday at NSF by a local photog on another list.

163523 EA-6B NL 530

163031 EA-6B NL 531

161349 EA-6B NL 532

158810 EA-6B NL 533

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Thanks Tony. That info matches precisely with the info I got from Europe. Their unit is VAQ-133. They probably could have provided the pilots' names had I asked. Those guys are amazing. :lol: I was hoping to hear their outbound flight today but could not get to the radios until now so probably missed them.

Alan

1425: Takeoff report Air Force 2 and SAM 43....with Andrews Tower 118.4
1429: Navy WB888 with ZDC-New Bern 272.75 descending to FL 2000...down to 17,000 at 1433.
1435: Navy WB888 handed off to ZDC-Calvert 281.4 and checks in at 17000....cleared down to 12000...and to 10000 at 1439.

1504: Navy ?JT? 051 with Giant Killer's W-107 entry/exit freqs 255.0 and then 135.725. Very weak and unreadable
1514: Evac 33113 (or 31113) with arrival message to SAM Command on 141.55
1516: Navy SD320 (SALTY DOG) with ZDC-Casino descending to 8000...then heard with Pax 281.8
1520-23: REACH 6006 calls SAM Command several times on 378.1...no joy.
1524: REACH 6006 makes contact on 141.55 and gives arrival msg...8 pax and loose baggage to offload
1533: Evac 33116 to Andrews on 141.55 to say he's trying to beat the ramp freeze and wonders if Customs/Ag will be there....he has 7 air evac crew...25 litter patients, 22 ambulatory patients and 9 attendants...plus a baggage pallet to offload
1537: Evac 33116 to Andrews Tower 118.4 for landing.
1544: SAM 0468 landing at Andrews with Tower 118.4

1615: Navy 2E481 calling Leesburg Radio on FSS freq 255.4...no reply.
1622: DC 98 (KC-135R, 756th ARS Andrews) (female) to LIBERATOR with arrival msg for Andrews...20 minutes out, A-1, 26K on the gas, 25 pax to offload so need airstairs, a conveyor belt and a stake body truck to meet the plane.

1710: Navy AX823 with Andrews Approach 119.3 and calling Navy Dispatch on 139.3.
1715: BLUE 91 (KC-10A McGuire) to McGuire Command Post on 349.4 with arrival message. (This was the callsign of the tanker aircraft accompanying the MAZDA 41-44 flight yesterday from Moron, Spain to Andrews.) He's talking about problems with the aircraft but is too weak to get specifics.
 
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1500 -<121.5> "United States Air Force" giving Warning Message to Aircraft violating Washington DC ADIZ... Violator responds with registration and "That would be me" gives position as landing at Annapolis and is midly admonished to make sure and talk to center and give proper squawk next time.
 

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Just a couple heard during casual listening at IAD today:
1448: -118.95 (Potomac Dep)- REACH 3603 (C-17A 93-0603) being vectored
1613: -134.62 (ZDC)- ARMY 30016 (UC-35 03-0016) checking in at FL340.
I also heard the DC 98 with LIBERATOR conversation referenced below, but I have nothing to add.
 

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Not military, but flight related.

Just heard on PMARS. Two flights heading into Dulles reported having a green laser pointed at them. This happened about 2050 in the Sully Station area. Fairfax Co has been asked to check the area.

Heard MWAA police responding to a terminal to meet a crew. I believe Mesa 7348 from Detroit is one of those involved. I thought they said United but this is the only one with that number. The MWAA says it happened 3 miles from the runway. They are also checking the surrounding area.
 
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Re: IAD laser incident

Hi guys,

I can add to this one: I was listening and watching flights land on the 1s yesterday late evening, and heard a couple of crews complain of a green laser being pointed at them from the area underneath the localizer to 1L. Crews involved in the ATC transmissions were ASH7148 and UAL8153 if my memory serves me correctly.

Tony

freqhopping said:
Not military, but flight related.

Just heard on PMARS. Two flights heading into Dulles reported having a green laser pointed at them. This happened about 2050 in the Sully Station area. Fairfax Co has been asked to check the area.

Heard MWAA police responding to a terminal to meet a crew. I believe Mesa 7348 from Detroit is one of those involved. I thought they said United but this is the only one with that number. The MWAA says it happened 3 miles from the runway. They are also checking the surrounding area.
 

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Spending nice day at the Beach today...Half hour ago a Navy P-3 zipped down the coast at 1800 feet headed towards O.C.
Tail code was a single L.

Pax River P-3?

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Can't find anything in the databases with just the single letter tailcode "L" Mark. I've heard a couple of Navy aircraft coming down through ZNY and into ZDC - 3E280 and 3E295. Their route was Yardley-Modena-Swann-Montebello but were at 20,000 feet the entire way. 280 wanted nothing but UHF freqs and 295 wanted only VHF. There was also a 7W511 doing pattern work at ACY but that's all the Navy I've heard today. Oh yeah...can't forget Navy SD405/SD420 (SALTY DOGs) into R-4006 midway through the 1200 hour.
At that same time there was a TEAM 12 (KC-10A McGuire) heading home with Atlantic City Approach on 124.6 at 7000 feet.
Starting at 1400, there are a couple of NJ-ANG F-16s flights working in Giant Killer's W-107 area (entered on 255.0, working tac 138.425/138.875) but that has been it on a very quiet day.

1508: JOLLY 11 (Unknown) calling MUSSEL Ops on 292.2. Giving arrival message - 20 minutes out and needs parking. Wants a freq for the base that can give him a parking spot. Couldn't hear the reply and didn't catch him anywhere else.
 
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