Sticky Thread for MilAir

[n3bxv]

Hello,

I saw that as well but considered it off-topic as ZBW is not adjacent to ZDC.

73 Eric

Hi Eric,
No worries, I just thought it became on-topic when Alan commented about other Centers not publishing similiar LTA's. I wonder if ZDC publishes something and we're just not seeing it. There doesn't seem to be an official FAA online repository for LTA's...


Chuck

 

[TinEar]

Hey Alan,
Boston Center also recently published an LTA with freqs http://web.nbaa.org/public/ops/airspace/ZBW_LTA0602.pdf

Thanks Chuck. As I was telling a friend earlier, I used to check that nbaa.org link daily and went months without seeing anything that would apply to us. So I stopped checking it and of course they release two new Center lists. I'm looking for a Cleveland Center list next to fill in freqs for the new Sectors that are adjacent to ZDC. My understanding is that every Center is getting new freqs under this most recent realignment scenario. Parts of ZOB and ZBW are really the only others in addition to ZDC/ZNY that are of interest.
http://web.nbaa.org/public/ops/airspace/

Re COBRA 72: This aircraft apparently caused a bit of confusion as it generally does when coming into Andrews since that callsign is also in use by VAQ-209 stationed there. Being an Open Skies aircraft, it reminded me of the Aussie callsign that was spelled out O-S-Y that recently arrived at Andrews and is also an Open Skies aircraft. COBRA 72 was apparently using OSY 12T earlier in his flight per a poster in the UK that caught it coming into Mildenhall.

 

[TinEar]

Uniden 996T and MilAir Listening

It's not a good thing. That's the short version. It's an excellent radio with great sensitivity and superb capabilities and features. Unfortunately, I just can't use it for my type of MilAir listening. The reason is that frequencies do not have a specific place in the memory that can be accessed quickly. Freqs are programmed into Systems and Groups that are accessed with Quick Keys. You can get to a system or group quickly but not to a specific freq within that group. For instance, take an an F-16 flight from Andrews going to Pax for work. You hear it on tac 143.15, then on TRACON 348.725, then ZDC-Calvert 281.4, over to Pax Advisory 305.2 and to BayWatch on 270.8. More than likely, you've got each of those freqs in a different group of freqs. So, when the aircraft changes from TRACON to a ZDC freq, I can quickly (sort of) get to the correct group of freqs that contains the 35 or so ZDC UHF freqs. But then must crank through them to get to the correct freq. That takes time - time that you don't have if you want to follow the flight and not miss anything.

I suppose you could have about a jillion little groups of freqs within different sysems trying to account for all those flights you know are repeated time after time. You might have the same freq assigned to a dozen different groups, e.g., a group containing all the freqs that an Andrews flight would use going to Pax, another for when they go to W-386, another for Dare County, yet another for W-107, etc. You'd have to have the same freq programmed perhaps a dozen times depending on the scenario. What a waste of memory space! I just can't see any method to get around the lack of immediate access to a programmed freq that you need immediately. With dynamic memory programming, there is no specific slot for a single frequency. It's always part of a group. As it is now, when a flight changes from ZDC 281.4 to Pax Advisory 305.2, I just punch in channel 683 on my Uniden 785D and I'm there. By the time I got it up on the 996, the aircraft has moved on to the next freq. Nope, it's just not going to work. It will be a great search radio and a great radio to just let scan the slew of MilAir freqs I've got programmed.

The only caveat I can add here is that I'm a new user of the 996 and perhaps don't know some secret about changing to a new/different frequency immediately. If there is a way, I'll happily recant, tuck my tail between my legs and adopt it.

The only other weakness I've found so far doesn't concern MilAir but is found with digital trunked systems. The 996 just doesn't hear what the 785 does. It's not as sensitive. I've only found this problem with digital, not analog, trunked systems. Both radios are on the same antenna fed through a Stridsberg multicoupler so they are on equal footing.

The Uniden 996T is a fantastic radio but not for my brand of MilAir listening. It'll be a good addition to the shack but not for my primary listening function.

 

[ka3jjz]

Tin, I'd suggest posting some of these comments on the 996 threads in the Uniden forum. Also see if you can find UPMan in the members directory, as well as joining the 996 Yahoo group. All these places may be spots where you can find workarounds. The Yahoo group is, I think, in the Wiki.

I'm sure that when I get my 396 and 996 I will have exactly the same concerns; I have no doubt that there's some trick to getting this to work right. If nothing else, it'll give you a little education as to how to work with the scanner efficiently - even if you can't exactly use it the way you wish.

73s Mike

[edit] You might even try zapping Larry Van Horn at MT - his ID here is 'navairboss' - a note. He was one of the beta testers for the radio

 

[Mateo]

Anyone get a callsign for an E-4 that passed overhead IAD at 1653 on Sunday or for a Memphis-based C-5 that passed over at 1806? Despite running my "Andrews Greatest Hits" mix of 119.85, 119.3, 124.0, 141.55, 378.1, 118.4, and 349.0, I managed not to hear a single transmission from either. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[TinEar]

I have no doubt that there's some trick to getting this to work right. If nothing else, it'll give you a little education as to how to work with the scanner efficiently - even if you can't exactly use it the way you wish.

Education - fine.
Efficiently - fine.
Not the way I wish - not fine, not even close.

Anyway, enough said about this on this thread. Just wanted to give a heads up on my initial reactions since several people asked for them and it was easier to do it once here rather than a dozen times via PM and email.

 

[Mark]

Slow day....

SUMMIT 14 C-130 from 731 AS/302 AW PETERSON AFB CO arriving Willow Grove
with base ops Shortstop on 351.750,1800z arrival.

Sunday was coming out of the Bottle + Cork in Dewey Beach around 7pm when
overhead about 1,200 feet were 3 Apache Choppers in formation headed South towards
Ocean City Maryland.Course no scanner with me. Impressive sight!
Was curious where they came from.Any Apache bases in our area?


update: another board post said Apaches did flyby at Pocono raceway Nascar race Sunday afternoon.
also said FLACK was flyby of Davis-Monthan A-10's that departed WB/Scranton airport.

Mark

 

[freqhopping]

Wow, nothing posted yet for today. Must be working hard. Just walked in the door and have a fighter flight that I'm waiting to get a callsign for.

1531- MUSSELL-1 and -2 calling MUSSELL CONTROL on 292.2 said something about the "Western freeze" and then said they would switch to what they called "Company freq". 141.7
Must've of missed it while I was programming it.

1535- 360.6 is active
1551- Unknown talking to HUNTRESS on 143.6. Sounds like he's being directed to a target.

And for Alan,
If the 996 is anything like my 396 then I've found it easier to deal with than convenional banks.
I have one conventional system for the UHF ARTCC freqs. That's divided into 3 banks for ZDC (southern, coastal,and the rest) one each for ZNY, ZOB and ZID.
My milair bank has eight groups. The first is for general stuff, 2nd= NORAD, 3rd=CAP, 4th=Andrews,local approaches etc., 5th=Helos and BICE, 6th=AR, 7th=Airshows, 8th=Testing ie 345.1 and 313.7000.

I set my MilAir up somewhat similar to that. And how do you get - quickly - to a specific frequency within one of those groups Travis?

If it's to follow a flight between handoffs I usually just let it scan and stop on the next freq on it's own. It scans fast enough that it hasn't been a problem. Otherwise I just push Hold and turn the knob. The banks are arranged numerically too.

 

[CitationJet]

A couple at home this afternoon, not paying full attention to the radio however. I have the PRO-2055 rolling at the moment, so far so good!

1900Z 118.675 Potomac DEP - LOBO 906 () - cleared to cross ELDEE @ 6000'.
1927Z 254.250 Potomac DEP - ANGRY 1 (F-16C/D 121st FS DC ANG) - @ 17000' cleared JERES-J220 QSY 227.125 @ 1936Z.
1958Z 118.675 Potomac DEP - NAVY JR 041 (C-20 VR-48) - on the app to ADW - seemingly the ATIS is out of date right now, flights are requesting 1L and being told ADW currently landing the 19s...QSY 119.85 9000 for 8000' @ 2004Z.

2001Z 314.250 BOXER Ops Andrews - BOXER 631 (201st AS DC ANG) - arr msg.
2034Z 319.400 Dover CP - REACH 446 () - clg here no joy.

 

[n3bxv]

1551- Unknown talking to HUNTRESS on 143.6. Sounds like he's being directed to a target.
.

I heard Brave 61/62 and "Capitols"(unheard) up on 139.7 around 0900-1000 conducting similar exercises up around NAS Pax. The Flight Lead was playing "Huntress" until he said, since this is just an exercise and to avoid confusion, we'll use "DarkStar" instead... 62 seemed to be the newbie learning the proceedures...

1630ish Wamo-51(not a helo) , depart KADW direct Westminster, ?missed?>128.2>125.525> then to ZNY <128.0> climbing to 15000.

1634/2034Z Scary 1 Flight,(121st FS F-16s) 9 mins out with SOF on 139.9 and A/A 143.6, with Potomac TRACON <335.5>

 

[TinEar]

I have one conventional system for the UHF ARTCC freqs. That's divided into 3 banks for ZDC (southern, coastal,and the rest) one each for ZNY, ZOB and ZID.
My milair bank has eight groups. The first is for general stuff, 2nd= NORAD, 3rd=CAP, 4th=Andrews,local approaches etc.

I set my MilAir up somewhat similar to that. And how do you get - quickly - to a specific frequency within one of those groups Travis?

1630ish Whamo-51(not a helo) , depart KADW ...

Washington Aerial Measurements Office - WAMO 51 specifically - based at Andrews.

 

[n3bxv]

Alan,
I knew the WAMO breakout, but I didn't know they had any fixed wing aircraft... The ZNY freq of 128.0 isn't listed, any ideas?

 

[TinEar]

The ZNY freq of 128.0 isn't listed, any ideas?

Considering his flight route, it could just be the VHF side of the pair with the new 285.65 freq I'm suggesting might belong to Hyper ZNY Sector 11.

If it's to follow a flight between handoffs I usually just let it scan and stop on the next freq on it's own. It scans fast enough that it hasn't been a problem. Otherwise I just push Hold and turn the knob. The banks are arranged numerically too.

Okay, so you're confirming what seems to be troubling me about the dynamic memory programming. You cannot directly access a particular programmed frequency. You either let the scan function run and hope you hit it or select the group the frequency belongs to and crank the dial until you get to it.
Anyone want to buy a very slightly used 996? To my way of thinking, they left out the most basic function of a scanner - the ability to directly select the frequency you want to hear. I sure wish someone would make a real base station scanner one of these days. Other than that problem, the 996 is designed as an in-dash mobile radio. It doesn't even have the basic ability of being able to tilt it on the desk to put it at the correct viewing angle. You must use the mobile bracket and screws on the desk to tilt the radio. How gauche! Uniden obviously believes there is no market for a base station radio and that people don't use their radios at home on a desk. Okay, no more rants about this radio.

Not sure if I'll be able to hear this CAP scheduled for Wednesday but some reading this thread might. It's for the Charleston WV, Indianapolis Center (ZID) area. The published TFR....
NOTAM Number : FDC 6/3628
Issue Date : July 24, 2006 at 14:03 UTC
Location : Charleston, West Virginia
Beginning Date and Time : July 26, 2006 at 20:05 UTC
Ending Date and Time : July 26, 2006 at 23:20 UTC
Reason for NOTAM : Temporary flight restrictions for VIP (Very Important Person) Movement
Type : VIP
Replaced NOTAM(s) : N/A
Affected Area(s)
Area A
Airspace Definition:
TFR Center: 6.5 nautical miles from CHARLESTON VORTAC(HVQ) on the 096 radial (Latitude: 38º20'37"N, Longitude: 81º38'00"W)
Radius: 30 nautical miles
Altitude: From the surface up to but not including FL(180)
Effective Date(s):
July 26, 2006 at 20:05 UTC (July 26, 2006 at 16:05 EDT) - July 26, 2006 at 23:20 UTC (July 26, 2006 at 19:20 EDT)

 

[TinEar]

2152: Have what sounds like "SPUD" 01 and 02 arriving at McGuire but using «349.4». Both said they'd do a combat offload beginning about 15 after the hour. (Should be THUG per Mark's msg below)
2156: Have SPUD 01 with Atlantic City Approach on «124.6» leaving 10,000 for 8,000
2159: SPUD 01 leaving Sea Isle, direct McGuire. «124.6»
2159: Have a female with HUNTRESS on 260.9 that I can't understand at all. She's doing a Modes & Codes check.

2222: WAMO 51 on 6.5 mile final for runway 19R at Andrews. «118.4»

2302: REACH 6005 with arrival message to Dover CP «349.4» 30 minutes out, 14 pax and baggage to offload and needs 100,000 pounds of fuel. Wants info on his upload and a parking spot.
2305: BOXER 45 (C-38 or 40, 201st ALS Andrews AFB MD) calling Boxer Ops on squadron freq «314.25»
2310: REACH 6005 gets his upload info...13,000 pounds. «349.4»
2319: BOXER 45 with Andrews Tower for landing. «118.4»
2340: ARMY 1944 with Reagan TRACON «119.85» heading for runway 19R at Andrews.
2343: ARMY 1944 with Andrews Tower for landing runway 19R. «118.4»

0003: Hearing Reagan TRACON simulcast on «257.2» talking to REACH 3119. Not sure where the aircraft is transmitting.
0004: REACH 3119 calling Andrews CP on «141.55»
0007: TRACON telling REACH 3119 to go direct PALEO. «257.2»
0008: TRACON on 257.2 hands off REACH 3119 to ZDC-Woodstown «125.45» where 3119 checks in climbing to 23,000.
0011: PAT 347 with TRACON 119.85 climbing.
0017: REACH 3119 climbing to 30,000 and wants 31 or 32,000. «125.45»
0018: REACH 254 with ZDC-Woodstown «125.45» at FL 310.

(Ref below): Excellent Mark. Glad you heard them too to confirm that callsign. I shouldn't try to watch the Red Sox game and listen to the radio at the same time.

 

[Mark]

Rgr TIN that was THUG 01 into McGuire.
Probably visiting C-17's for advanced weapon courses held at McGuire.
They use that callsign when coming in for that training.
Sometimes they will bring in a squadron of 4-5 C-17's for training.
Lets see if any more arrive later....

Also Philly newscasts Monday night showed C-17 #0177 offloading pax from Lebanon,102 total pax.
Another 1000 pax expected thru McGuire.

Mark

 

[TinEar]

0946: Fighter tac 141.6 active. Usually a VA-ANG freq.
0947: Warren Grove Range active with FLYER flight talking to ground FAC MAD DOG.
0953: U/I fighter tac freq 141.625 active.
0953: DEVIL flight (F-16 NJ-ANG Atlantic City) with ACY App/Dep 327.125
0954: DEVIL 11 with Giant Killer on 255.0, IDs as a flight of four for work in W-107. The flight is working 138.425 for tac. (Thought I heard him say they'd be working with a BICEP flight)
0957: AXEMAN (A-10, MD-ANG Martin Stater Airport) airborne on tac 142.3
0958: AXEMAN to Raven Ops on 347.2 to report the flight airborne at 56 after the hour.
0959: One of the AXEMAN A-10s reporting a problem...he's getting a stall warning and the flaps are deploying. This happens for a few seconds and then turns off. No decision on landing yet. 142.3

1007: AXEMAN flight continuing its mission...they come up on FSS 255.4 to report entering low level flight route VR-1709 at Point Alpha. (faded and missed the rest about altitude and speed).
1009: Another NJ-ANG F-16 flight on tac 138.875. (Possibly BICEP)
1013: BASH 23 (F-16 VA-ANG Richmond) with Norfolk TRACON (East) 370.925 Sounds like he's heading home.
1015: FLYER flight finishing up at Warren Grove Range. 283.1
1016: BASH 21 flight with Norfolk TRACON (West) 360.6
1018: BASH 23 with Norfolk TRACON (West) 360.6
1021: BASH flight with SOF on 142.175 giving mission results and maintenance status of flight. It was a flight of four F-16s.
1033: Have a pair of F-22As on tac 233.525. No callsign yet. ID from transmitter sound and traffic. The F-22A pilots seem to always give their speed in mach numbers rather than knots.
1040: U/I Army helo with Aberdeen Range Control 248.4...wants to transition to R-4001 area from his position just west of APG. Will stay above 1000 feet.
1043: U/I F-22A flight with GK on 249.8 and switching to 39 Prime.
1045: U/I fighters on tac 139.625.
1046: STUD 11, flight of two tells GK on 249.8 they're heading to Oceana (STUD is the F-22A flight from 233.525 tac and is a known F-22A callsign ex Langley.)
1047: Bollen Range active 237.2
1050: More F-22A traffic on tac 257.075.
1051: Have a U/I flight with ZDC-Shenandoah 270.35 mentions a stop in the Evers MOA with a delay of 20 minutes. (The Evers MOA is in West Virginia and seldom used.)
1056: SCARY flight (F-16 DC-ANG Andrews) on tac 143.6
1059: AXEMAN and WARDOG flights from MTN working at Warren Grove Range 283.1

1102: SCARY flight with ZDC-Calvert 281.4 heading for Pax
1103: SCARY to Pax Approach on 305.2 at 15000 feet and handed to BayWatch on 270.8 where they check in for work for the next 30 minutes and then a tunnel back to Andrews.
1104: More possible F-22A work on tac 228.45.
1105: BayWatch telling SCARY 1 he's simulcasting or bleeding over onto Washington Center while talking on 270.8. SCARY 1 doesn't believe it. SCARY 1 and 2 talking about "bleedover" on UHF over on the tac freq 143.6.
1109: SCARY flight setting up for ground attack at the Pax Range around Vienna. 143.6
Buddy lase mission with a GBU-12 drop on the first attack.
1110: F-22As in ACM activity on tac 228.45.
1113: SCARY flight working with a simulated FAC callsign KILLER at the range. 143.6
1118: ____ 35 entering R-4006 for the next 30 minutes with Pax Approach 305.2 and then to BayWatch 354.8. Says when finished he'll return to Atlantic City at requested altitude 9000 feet.
1120: TESTER 26 with BayWatch 354.8.
1122: MEXICO 21 flight with Giant Killer on 249.8 about to finish work. MEXICO is one of the F-22A flights on either 228.45 or 257.075 and is a new callsign recovery for ex Langley F-22A. (Change MEXICO from the old F-15 to the F-22A callsign list.)
1124: BATON (EC-130J Harrisburg) working on 295.8...possibly with an OPEC tanker.
1133: Finally found the RAVEN flight...working MTN Tower for landing 297.2 (They must have been working low band for tac and I just didn't stumble upon the freq.)
1134: AXEMAN/WARDOG flight coming home and check in with Raven Ops on 347.2....10 minutes out.
1145: U/I female on 295.8 talking about an AR track and getting there at 1600Z. Only can hear one end of the conversation.
1145: AXEMAN/WARDOG landing Martin State 297.2
1152: SCARY flight of F-16s still working at Pax on tac 143.6.

1200: Noon and about all that's left flying is the SCARY F-16 flight and they're about to finish up. Break time.


(Ref below): Dave, I took that FLYER info down. I might have confused traffic from two different radios. Not sure where AXEMAN is headed when they come out of VR-1709. Nice catch on the RAVENs. I'll look for them when they head back down this way.
Dave, would you happen to have a list of the ZOB freqs and Sector names that you usually hear for traffic to the Duke? I'd like to add them to my scan rotation if possible.
Thank you Dave. I had those two ZOB freqs from your posts but didn't know the Sector names to add to the scanner display. I do now. Looking for the RAVEN flight and not hearing them over the next 45 minutes after you reported they finished in the Duke.

Anyone have recent info on when the runway work at Langley is supposed to be completed? I heard end of July but that was months ago. The F-22A aircraft from the 27th Fighter Squadron at Langley arrived at Oceana NAS June 30th after their deployment to Alaska. That's why we're suddenly hearing them again.
http://www.wvec.com/news/military/stories/wvec_military_062906_raptors_oceana.b3de1df.html

There is another news story about their deployment from WAVY here:
http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=4940068&nav=23iidOgS
And right below that story is a link to a neat video clip of the F-22As at Langley with the story of their deployment and the runway construction. The story indicates end of July but it's from back at the start of the work. Note the youthful look of the commanding General of the 1st Fighter Wing in the story. As I get older, everyone looks young anymore.

 

[dparana]

Hey Tin,
Thanks for the FLYER info, there was a flight of three up here yesterday and I didn't have any luck finding the TAC Freq. And I have some RAVENS up in the DUKE at the moment...

1010: Raven 1 Checks In With Cleveland Center on 291.65.
1016: Raven 1 contacts STEEL 72 on 301.60, they are a flight of two.
1019: Boom check between STEEL and RAVEN, loud and clear (301.60)
1028: Refuelling is wrapped up. RAVENS heading out...

1135: Very strange that you haven't gotten anything on the RAVENS yet Tin (They're home, Ref your 1133 post above).

(Ref below): Dave, I took that FLYER info down. I might have confused traffic from two different radios. Not sure where AXEMAN is headed when they come out of VR-1709. Nice catch on the RAVENs. I'll look for them when they head back down this way.
Dave, would you happen to have a list of the ZOB freqs and Sector names that you usually hear for traffic to the Duke? I'd like to add them to my scan rotation if possible.

I have heard aircraft enter the DUKE in two ways.
1. ZNY-PHILIPSBURG on 338.30 ---> ZOB-WAYLAND 353.85
2. ZOB-BRADFORD 291.65, I usually do not pick up the freq before this. When they checked in they were about 12 Miles South of the Slate Run VOR, I forget the altitude though.

I JUST NOTICED THAT THIS IS MY 100TH POST...HOORAY!!!

Dave

 

[Mark]

A few late afternoon logs..


REACH 5406 C-130 #93-7856 arrive Dover 1930z

BASS or BASH 61 F-16 arriving Atlantic City on 327.1250

Coast Guard 6581 chopper with Dover appch direct D.C
switching to Potomac Appch 126.750

EVAC 33115 C-17 arrive Andrews 1935z,patient offloads.

REACH 145 KC-10 arrive Dover 1956z,upload 22 pallets.

Mark

 

[n3bxv]

2307z
<139.9> (121st FS DC ANG- SOF) Angry -11 Flight of 2, off at 2307
<257.2> (Potomac TRACON) Angry-11(F-16s, 121 FS DC ANG, Andrew AFB) departing KADW requests direct Lancaster, A/A 139.15 commenting on UHF "they always have problems hearing us on this freq"
<254.25> (Potomac TRACON) with Potomac Direct JERES, looking for direct Lancaster when able, asks for Uniform, then push 227.125
<227.125>(ZDC-Hagerstown) direct hancock, now saying Angry-1, A/A 139.15 Discussing weather if affects Wheeler-Sack(Fort Drum)
<270.3> (ZNY-Harrisburg) Calling New York Center, Angry-11, Direct AR 609 (AR Track in Northern NY)
<306.2>(ZNY- Phillipsburg High) Angry-1 checks in with ZNY, something about MOA and then "We'll be Landing at Syracuse"
<269.1><ZNY-Milton High) Pushed here but not heard.

2334z
<257.2> (Potomac TRACON) Bully-1 flight depart KADW, A/A 143.15
<254.25> (Potomac TRACON) Looks like Bullies are going too, Direct JERES, own navigation
<227.125>(ZDC-Hagerstown) Bullies check in A/A "Direct ?Mikah?"
<270.3> (ZNY-Harrisburg) Check in , then push to 322.4
<322.4>(ZNY- Middletown) then push immediately to 306.2
<306.2> (ZNY- Phillipsburg High) Check in with Center A/A 143.15 = Bullies push "51.50" says Five one dot five zero

2355z <327.6> DC-02 up on AR Primary AR-205

0000z(Quad Zulu!)<260.9> USCG 6028(USCG HH-60J) Reporting position to RENEGADE
0021z <260.9> USCG 6581 (USCG HH-65A) is also out and about, reporting "was Red, Red, Green" (possibly the visual warning system)

0031z(260.9> USCG 6581 telling RENEGADE they are ready for "sparkle"

REF below - Wasn't the USCG supposed to take over the NCR defense mission from DHS/ICE/Customs?

 

[TinEar]

I won't be logging until much later tonight but wanted to jump in with a freq that ANGRY 11 flight just used (at 1933) on their way to Syracuse. They came up on «139.625» and called COBRA SOF asking for info about a Level 5 thunderstorm in their path. Say they are still going to continue to the tanker and then on to Syracuse.
At 1935, they told COBRA SOF they'd be on their V-6 freq - 139.15 - and could be contacted there if there was any further info.
COBRA is a callsign at the 138th Fighter Squadron, NY-ANG Syracuse.

And I've got to mention there is Coast Guard helicopter 6028 working with HUNTRESS on both 228.9 and 260.9. He finally made contact at 1937 on 228.9 and simply gave a squawk code - 5124. That's a bit unusual. A few minutes later there was a second Coast Guard helo with HUNTRESS on 228.9...missed his numbers...got 651X or 6X51. He was sent to 139.7 for a radio check but I couldn't hear him there.

Ref Above: JERES
Yes, that was the plan.

NOTE: The BULLY flight apparently used yet another new ZNY freq on their way to Fort Drum. From 306.2, they were handed off to ZNY-Milton 269.1 and from there to 273.6. I heard them on 273.6 but they were too weak to copy their message. Will add 273.6 as a possible third new ZNY freq in addition to 285.65 and 292.15.