Would I be correct in thinking that we are YEARS from this system going live?
Additional sites for future LAPD 700Mhz system
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I wonder if it will be phased in area by area and agency by agency. I think the LAPD and L.A. Sheriff's Department might make a huge switch all at once, or they might take it on division by division and station by station. Such an approach will take many years, depending on how departments gear up for the change.
Technically system is on the air and I've hard random users make use of it. A couple of weeks back a pair were chit-chatting for quite a while on their drives home in the Valley.
For regular dispatch use, yes we are far away it seems, but the system is programmed and accessible for some users already.
This is the LAPD - City of Los Angeles system. LA County and Sheriff are currently building out and making use of their own new system LA-RICS
Los Angeles Regional Interoperable Communications System (LA-RICS) Trunking System, Los Angeles County, California
Los Angeles Regional Interoperable Communications System (LA-RICS) Trunking System Profile
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monitor142
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LASD and LACFD at this point will not transition to LA-RICS until the system is completely built out. It has good basin coverage right now and current users understand that it's not Countywide yet. Special events may take place on the system such as sporting events but that's for locations where the coverage is good and in some cases BDA/DAS systems have been installed for enhanced coverage.
Keep in mind that both LASD and LACFD will still heavily use their current conventional resources as they are. They will use the trunked system as needed and based on protocols. Either way with T-Band staying, ISD will have plenty of work ahead for them completing any outstanding narrow banding of channels and possible growth if required now that the freeze of licensing adds or modifications is slowly lifting.
Keep in mind that both LASD and LACFD will still heavily use their current conventional resources as they are. They will use the trunked system as needed and based on protocols. Either way with T-Band staying, ISD will have plenty of work ahead for them completing any outstanding narrow banding of channels and possible growth if required now that the freeze of licensing adds or modifications is slowly lifting.
Yea, you wont hear much or any voice activity for a min of 4 months or so at least..... ... :O)
This seems to be the existing and/or planned lineup for wide area TRS in Los Angeles County for local, county, and state agencies
LA City STRS - 800T - non safety
LA City PD - 700 T + 800 T
ICI - 400T - suburban public safety
LA-RICS - 470T + 700T - county sheriff and county fire
CWIRS - 800 T - county ?non safety?
CRIS - 700T - state
I dont see Los Angeles City FD - will they go to the LA City PD TRS? I dont see Long Beach either.
(info from RRDB and this thread)
LA City STRS - 800T - non safety
LA City PD - 700 T + 800 T
ICI - 400T - suburban public safety
LA-RICS - 470T + 700T - county sheriff and county fire
CWIRS - 800 T - county ?non safety?
CRIS - 700T - state
I dont see Los Angeles City FD - will they go to the LA City PD TRS? I dont see Long Beach either.
(info from RRDB and this thread)
kj6psg
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Given the frequencies, that looks like the original Lukens site that went off the air some time ago.
The system is still being optimized and not all sites are on the air yet.... So nothing special to listen for....
I'm confused (as usual). LAPD was supposed to go to RICS, then they pulled out with a wait & see attitude, and now they are spending $$$ to build out their own separate system? So they are waving off RICS for good?
LA City in 2015 opted out of LA-RICS membership.
Since they have upgraded STRS (now being used by LAFD for example) and moved ahead for a trunked public safety system for LAPD as well. Its taken them a long while to cobble together enough 700/800 frequencies.
Since they have upgraded STRS (now being used by LAFD for example) and moved ahead for a trunked public safety system for LAPD as well. Its taken them a long while to cobble together enough 700/800 frequencies.
Engine104
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I'm hoping it doesn't use the dreaded "E" word.
LA Sheriff has spent millions of dollars on the RICS system, which is partly in real time use. I haven't seen any mention of switching to the LA City system, but I'd suspect LASD will be able to interop if needed. As I recall, LA City pulled out of RICS some years ago due to the cost and build out delays.
Engine104
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Probably so..LAFlyer... There are a bunch of sites on the air
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Engine104 unfortunately the big "E" is coming......
Hopefully, divisional dispatch will remain in the clear.
Any idea on when this will go live? I remember in 2000 or so when LAPD went digital, it happened pretty suddenly.
Tnx and 73,
-de KG6EJT
monitor142
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The City of Long Beach has grown the Port of Long Beach 700 trunker on Signal Hill and will add an additional site or two to fully cover the City. All public safety has new portables (APX8000 all band) and new mobiles have been going in vehicles. I'm assuming APX8500's but can't confirm.
LA RICS still has numerous cities or Government agencies committed to the system above and beyond LASD and LACFD.
ICI continues to add agencies to their JPA. I don't know if they will add any additional sites above and beyond the South Bay cell but that system is healthy and carrying a lot of traffic.
In the end, think the "system of systems" concept by using ISSI links. I know that there will be some level of mutual aid talkgroups and be frequency agnostic. This could also include systems linked outside of LA. Think San Bernardino, Riverside, Orange, San Diego, Ventura, and even Kern who could have a link to their consoles and patch conventional resources. Anything is possible...it's the 51% politics that hinders the 49% of usable technology.
Really? "Numerous Cities"? Who's left in the County that hasn't made a decision?
As far as MA and Interop, the trunk systems have MA talkgroups, and there are procedures in place for patching outside, so "linking" probably will not happen without some intervention by a non County entity. And I can tell you that patching between systems has worked very well "numerous" times already.
kj6psg
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Lots of activity on Site 1.6 today. Seems to be unencrypted, but I'm not monitoring voice channels. Entirely Phase 2, but we already knew this. Talkgroup 240 was also seen but not heard.
Monitor the Voice Channels...Let me know how my audio is...
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