DSDPlus DSD+ FL 2.505 released

[GTR8000]

A few notes regarding MSI ASTRO 25 OTA aliases...

1) These aliases are only available to systems running System Release 7.16 or newer. 7.16 is quite old and so most systems should already be on a newer release.

2) Systems that existing prior to 7.16 would need to have these aliases enabled by the admin. Upgrading to 7.16 or newer does not enable them automatically, however systems that shipped at 7.16 or newer usually do have them enabled from the start.

3) The admin has the ability to turn these aliases on or off selectively, and so you may only see a subset of aliases in certain cases. The NJ statewide ASTRO 25 system, for example, only encodes console aliases OTA, not subscribers.

4) If OTA aliases is enabled, you will see the exact text of the alias as it exists in Provisioning Manager, i.e. the alias assigned to the subscribers, which is the same text seen on the system consoles.

Carry on...

 

[cg]

Here is a short Motorola video that shows how easy an alias can be changed and the benefit of OTA aliases using the Provisioning Manager that GTR mentioned

 

[GTR8000]

z001s011op10 = Zone 1, Site 11, Operator Position (aka console) 10
z001s010op12 = you guessed it...Zone 1, Site 10, Op Position 12

@RaleighGuy I had a brain cramp while posting that...the "Site" bit doesn't refer to an RF site, but rather the subsystem the console is assigned to. It's mostly behind the scenes stuff, but the takeaway is that whenever you see a string like that with op in the alias, it's a system console.

 

[Muxlow]

New P2 system i monitor here all the paramedics mobiles and portables have alias, 99% of the police dont have them and IF they do its just the agency name XXX-RADIO ID #

 

[Tidalwave]

Do you need to have voice following on for this to work? and/or data following?

 

[mtindor]

Do you need to have voice following on for this to work? and/or data following?

Yep. The alias information is transmitted over the voice channel during the voice call.

 

[slicerwizard]

Do you need to have voice following on for this to work? and/or data following?

It's been tuning to locked out / low priority traffic to get aliases that it hasn't seen yet. Same for encrypted calls, so you can just enable the groups you want to hear (or none of them) and it still seems to get the job done.

 

[CanesFan95]

Is there anyway to turn off the little beep sound everytime there's an alias message in the VC Event Log?



And even though its saying OTA alias data acquired, I don't see the aliases.

 

[Reconrider]

Is there anyway to turn off the little beep sound everytime there's an alias message in the VC Event Log?

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And even though its saying OTA alias data acquired, I don't see the aliases.

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[dave3825]

Is there anyway to turn off the little beep sound everytime there's an alias message in the VC Event Log?

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And even though its saying OTA alias data acquired, I don't see the aliases.

Says 108 pending. 0 Decoded. Might take some time.

 

[RaleighGuy]

Is there anyway to turn off the little beep sound everytime there's an alias message in the VC Event Log?

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And even though its saying OTA alias data acquired, I don't see the aliases.

Look in the MISC settings for the OTA Alias settings, as @Reconrider said, the actual aliases may not appear for awhile, or until the next time you use the program, they do not decode instantly. Which was mentioned in earlier posts in this thread. Finally, if you do not have wifi/internet access they will not be sent to the server for decoding until you do.

 

[RaleighGuy]

New P2 system i monitor here all the paramedics mobiles and portables have alias, 99% of the police dont have them and IF they do its just the agency name XXX-RADIO ID #

A lot of my county/city radios just say county name and RID such as WAKE1845645, it is a shared city/county system.

 

[Reconrider]

Says 108 pending. 0 Decoded. Might take some time.

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Do I spy windows xp? Lol

 

[CanesFan95]

Ok, think I'm getting something now.



So let me see if I understand all this right. The DSD+ team (whoever / wherever they are) literally set up one whole server 24/7 and our computers are sending 'em scrambled alias data over the internet? Then their server (somehow) decrypts all the hex gibberish and writes that back to our DSDPlus.radios file ?

 

[dave3825]

So let me see if I understand all this right. The DSD+ team (whoever / wherever they are) literally set up one whole server 24/7 and our computers are sending 'em scrambled alias data over the internet? Then their server (somehow) decrypts all the hex gibberish and writes that back to our DSDPlus.radios file ?

Yup, and now you should have 101 decoded aliases. I mean there could be others down your way running DSDPlus..

 

[CanesFan95]

Man! That's crazy. A whole server. I wonder why? So I guess it's complicated decoding these aliases and they had to write a whole 'nother software program on a server just for that.

 

[RaleighGuy]

Yup, and now you should have 101 decoded aliases. I mean there could be others down your way running DSDPlus..

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It's interesting to see those for a couple of reasons, first I did not see any VIPER alias data received, but it appears there were 15 decodes. Secondly, since we see all systems, I'm wondering if the data is saved and decodes made available to anyone who submits the identical info, rather than decoding the same info for multiple people. That would be a smart and time/resource saving way to do it.

 

[dave3825]

That list just about doubled compared to what was there around the time I posted about the update. By the weekend it should be quite large.

I wonder if it will remain a running list of systems or if they disappear after there is no data being sent in for a period of time on each system..

 

[CanesFan95]

Or it could be a way to start a worldwide database of radio IDs that could be loaded into scanners and other decoding applications.

My decoded aliases is stuck at 180 even though I keep getting aliases returned.

 

[mtindor]

It's interesting to see those for a couple of reasons, first I did not see any VIPER alias data received, but it appears there were 15 decodes. Secondly, since we see all systems, I'm wondering if the data is saved and decodes made available to anyone who submits the identical info, rather than decoding the same info for multiple people. That would be a smart and time/resource saving way to do it.

If user A sends OTA information for RID 10035 on WVSIRN and that OTA data is decoded, then that OTA data is available to anyone else who monitors WVSIRN with the new version of DSDPlus if they actually monitored a registration, affilation or group/private/data call of 10035. Subsequent people monitoring RID 10035 would see the decoded alias almost instantly. But, my understanding is that if there were 20,000 decoded RIDs for WVSIRN, everyone monitoring SIRN isn't going to magically have their DSDPlus.radios file populated with 20,000 decoded RIDs. The DSDPlus.radios file of every listener of SIRN will receive decoded RID information for only the RIDs that their DSDPlus have seen. And I think that makes perfect sense.