DSDPlus and NXDN48 and 96

[mtindor]

Can you tell me what steps you took to find this information?

And how can i find the info i need to listen to this site (see attached pics) it's a NEXEDGE48 signal and i have a good signal i'm locking onto but i'm unsure how and where to input the info into dsdplus fl in order to hear the traffic.

Thanks

@AngWay

That system you are showing is Fleetalk Carolinas L219 ( FleetTalk Carolinas Trunking System, Various, Multi-State ). The site specifically is a site previously unknown, L219-27 (aka 127). It has neighbors of 12, 15, 20, 25 and 26 (aka 112, 115, 120, 125, 126)

Since it currently isn't in the DB, and since I can't be sure (but am fairly sure), I'll post here:

L219-27 (aka L219-127) 451.025
WSDX383 MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS INC
Honaker VA (Buchanan)
4 linear miles West of Honaker, VA. on the Russell and Buchanan County line
37.05244 -82.03556

83 451.025
188 452.3375
515 461.425
691 463.625
730 464.1125

NL:
12 aka 112 (516-461.4375) WQZA254 FANCY GAP VA (CARROLL)
15 aka 115 (523-461.525) WQVJ713 INDEPENDENCE / Point Lookout Mtn VA (GRAYSON)
20 aka 120 (748-464.3375) WSDY711 POCOHONTAS VA (TAZEWELL)
25 aka 125 (199-452.475) WSDX383 SPRINGVILLE VA (TAZEWELL)
26 aka 126 (129-451.600) WSDY711 TAZEWELL / Morris Knob VA (TAZEWELL)

The "AKA" is all about the fact that there are multiple systems tied together under 219, and site numbers are duplicated. So, IN THE DB ONLY they are split up into "zones" if you will 1xx, 2xx, 3xx, 4xx, 5xx. These sites are in "zone 1" or 1xx. But DSDPlus will display only the 12, 15, 20, 25, 26, 27.


So try these additions to these three files:

DSDPlus.Networks
; FleetTalk Carolinas
NEXEDGE48,219,"FleetTalk Carolinas"

DSDPlus.Sites
; FleetTalk Carolinas
NEXEDGE48,219,27,"Honaker, VA"

DSDPlus.Frequencies
; FleetTalk Carolinas
NEXEDGE48,219,27,83,451.025,456.025,83
NEXEDGE48,219,27,188,452.3375,457.3375,188
NEXEDGE48,219,27,515,461.425,466.425,515
NEXEDGE48,219,27,691,463.625,468.625,691
NEXEDGE48,219,27,730,464.1125,469.1125,730

Try that and let us know how it works.

AND, once that one is verified working, Check the frequencies for each of the neighbor sites listed above and see if you can pick up any of those control channels (with at least a 20db SNR -- meaning a good signal). If so, try to capture relevant data about it.

Once you program L219-27 into the DSDPlus files and park on the control channel, watch the Channel Activity window and wait long enough for enough voice calls to occur so that it rotates between all the frequencies a couple of times. Then show us the Channel Activity window. I included all frequencies licensed on the site, but they might not be using ALL the frequencies on the site or might be using other frequencies as well.

 

[AngWay]

Click the link I gave you & download the 3 files I outlined at the bottom of post #11. Paste the contents of each file you downloaded to the ends of the existing files with the same names in your DSD+ directory (DSDPlus.sites, DSDPlus.frequencies & DSDPlus.groups)

Yeah but this is a different freqs than the 800mhz one i can't figure out how to find the info i need to download

 

[AngWay]

@AngWay

That system you are showing is Fleetalk Carolinas L219 ( FleetTalk Carolinas Trunking System, Various, Multi-State ). The site specifically is a site previously unknown, L219-27 (aka 127). It has neighbors of 12, 15, 20, 25 and 26 (aka 112, 115, 120, 125, 126)

Since it currently isn't in the DB, and since I can't be sure (but am fairly sure), I'll post here:

L219-27 (aka L219-127) 451.025
WSDX383 MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS INC
Honaker VA (Buchanan)
4 linear miles West of Honaker, VA. on the Russell and Buchanan County line
37.05244 -82.03556

83 451.025
188 452.3375
515 461.425
691 463.625
730 464.1125

NL:
12 aka 112 (516-461.4375) WQZA254 FANCY GAP VA (CARROLL)
15 aka 115 (523-461.525) WQVJ713 INDEPENDENCE VA (GRAYSON)
20 aka 120 (748-464.3375) WNNG941 HAMPTON VA (HAMPTON CITY) or WSDY711 POCOHONTAS VA (TAZEWELL)
25 aka 125 (199-452.475) WSDX383 SPRINGVILLE VA (TAZEWELL)
26 aka 126 (129-451.600) WSDY711 TAZEWELL VA (TAZEWELL)

The "AKA" is all about the fact that there are multiple systems tied together under 219, and site numbers are duplicated. So, IN THE DB ONLY they are split up into "zones" if you will 1xx, 2xx, 3xx, 4xx, 5xx. These sites are in "zone 1" or 1xx. But DSDPlus will display only the 12, 15, 20, 25, 26, 27.


So try these additions to these three files:

DSDPlus.Networks
; FleetTalk Carolinas
NEXEDGE96,219,"FleetTalk Carolinas)

DSDPlus.Sites
; FleetTalk Carolinas
NEXEDGE96,219,27,"Honaker, VA"

DSDPlus.Frequencies
; FleetTalk Carolinas
NEXEDGE96,219,27,83,451.025,456.025,83
NEXEDGE96,219,27,188,452.3375,457.3375,188
NEXEDGE96,219,27,515,461.425,466.425,515
NEXEDGE96,219,27,691,463.625,468.625,691
NEXEDGE96,219,27,730,464.1125,469.1125,730

Try that and let us know how it works.

Alright i tried everything you said but i'm not getting anything... here is a screen recording of it. Video

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Re-iterating what I tried explaining in post #11: Go to said 800mhz system's database page. Click Menu > Downloads as shown below.

Scroll down to "Other data downloads", do you see the files outlined in red below? If yes these are the files you'll need

 

[mtindor]

Alright i tried everything you said but i'm not getting anything... here is a screen recording of it. Video

Please, no video. Show us a screenshot of the main DSDPlus Event Window and Channel Activity Window and the FMP24 window.

And, have you considered that there simply may not be any voice transmissions on the site right now? These systems are often very quite outside of business hours. It's 5 PM on Saturday evening.

 

[mtindor]

@AngWay Hang on.

Review this post again: DSDPlus and NXDN48 and 96

It is a NEXEDGE48 system and I had previously gave you instructions for the DSDPlus files that said NEXEDGE96. I was wrong about that. It's NEXEDGE48.

So review and correct those entries in the DSDPlus.* files to be NEXEDGE48 instead of NEXEDGE96

 

[AngWay]

Please, no video. Show us a screenshot of the main DSDPlus Event Window and Channel Activity Window and the FMP24 window.

And, have you considered that there simply may not be any voice transmissions on the site right now? These systems are often very quite outside of business hours. It's 5 PM on Saturday evening.

i'll keep a eye on it and see if anything changes.. i figured video would be better than a screen shot

 

[mtindor]

i'll keep a eye on it and see if anything changes.. i figured video would be better than a screen shot

The video was fine after all. After I made it full screen. But do try to include Channel Activity in there as well.

Make the corrections I mentioned above and it should work.

 

[AngWay]

@AngWay Hang on.

Review this post again: DSDPlus and NXDN48 and 96

It is a NEXEDGE48 system and I had previously gave you instructions for the DSDPlus files that said NEXEDGE96. I was wrong about that. It's NEXEDGE48.

So review and correct those entries in the DSDPlus.* files to be NEXEDGE48 instead of NEXEDGE96

Here it is i put them as you said

 

[AngWay]

The video was fine after all. After I made it full screen. But do try to include Channel Activity in there as well.

Make the corrections I mentioned above and it should work.

Here is everything

 

[mtindor]

Here is everything

Still something isn't right. First off, no need to see the black DOS-like screens. Secondly, it's still not showing what it should in the bottom of the Event Window. And you didn't show the Channel Activity Window.

Let me review what I posted one more time to see if I made some other mistake.

What I posted should be right.

One line in DSDPlus.Networks
One line in DSDPlus.Sites
Five lines in DSDPlus.Frequencies

And the line in DSDPlus.Networks should end with a " and not a ) -- I had originally had a ) at the end.

Please make sure those lines are in the appropriate files and are not commented out (no ; at the beginning for anything that starts with NEXEDGE48)

 

[AngWay]

Still something isn't right. First off, no need to see the black DOS-like screens. Secondly, it's still not showing what it should in the bottom of the Event Window. And you didn't show the Channel Activity Window.

Let me review what I posted one more time to see if I made some other mistake.

What I posted should be right.

One line in DSDPlus.Networks
One line in DSDPlus.Sites
Five lines in DSDPlus.Frequencies

And the line in DSDPlus.Networks should end with a " and not a ) -- I had originally had a ) at the end.

Please make sure those lines are in the appropriate files and are not commented out (no ; at the beginning for anything that starts with NEXEDGE48)

Ok i rechecked everything and this is what i have

 

[mtindor]

Ok i rechecked everything and this is what i have

Dude, you need to change NEXEDGE96 to NEXEDGE48 as I mentioned a few posts ago -- only for the 219 stuff. It should be NEXEDGE48. And of course you then must save it for it to take effect.

 

[AngWay]

Dude, you need to change NEXEDGE96 to NEXEDGE48 as I mentioned a few posts ago.

So add a L before all 219 in all the files ? yes i see that now it says 96 instead of 48 lol

 

[AngWay]

Dude, you need to change NEXEDGE96 to NEXEDGE48 as I mentioned a few posts ago -- only for the 219 stuff. It should be NEXEDGE48. And of course you then must save it for it to take effect.

How about this now?

 

[mtindor]

So add a L before all 219 in all the files ? yes i see that now it says 96 instead of 48 lol

Hold off on adding L. I thought that the network model should NOT be added to NEXEDGE systems. So leave it as 219

But do change NEXEDGE96 to NEXEDGE48. And then save the files.

 

[mtindor]

How about this now?

There ya go. That's what it is upposed to look like. Let's see the Channel Activity window.

And keep in mind, there may be little or no use on that site outside of business hours. Heck there might not be much traffic on it even during business time.

 

[AngWay]

Hold off on adding L. I thought that the network model should NOT be added to NEXEDGE systems. So leave it as 219

But do change NEXEDGE96 to NEXEDGE48. And then save the files.

There ya go. That's what it is upposed to look like. Let's see the Channel Activity window.

And keep in mind, there may be little or no use on that site outside of business hours. Heck there might not be much traffic on it even during business time.

there is the channel activity it's not showing anything.... but now i know how to add NEXEDGE stuff which i had no idea how to do that before so thanks a ton for that info

 

[AngWay]

There ya go. That's what it is upposed to look like. Let's see the Channel Activity window.

And keep in mind, there may be little or no use on that site outside of business hours. Heck there might not be much traffic on it even during business time.

But in the spectrum view i see all kinds of signals popping up and down . what is that anyway's.. u can see it in the video i sent.

 

[mtindor]

there is the channel activity it's not showing anything.... but now i know how to add NEXEDGE stuff which i had no idea how to do that before so thanks a ton for that info

You're welcome. When voice traffic does occur on the system, you'll see more channel ID <--> frequency stuff show up in the Channel Activity window. And you should eventually see Group and/or Private calls show up in the main Event Window. Like I said, there is probably little activity. In one screenshot I saw one radio registration lol. That's about it.