MARCS-IP ("New MARCS") Site and Talkgroup Discussion

[WX4JCW]

45552 Univ Of Akron RID
45543 Twinsburg FD RID
62508 Akron PD RID
62523 ENC
62577 AKRON PD RID
62583 Summit Co Public works (Higway Dept?) RID
62673 Bath PD RID
62692 Cuyahoga Falls PD RID
62805 Summa PD RID
62835 UNK RID
62930 Summit SO RID

 

[Nasby]

45552 Univ Of Akron RID
45543 Twinsburg FD RID
62508 Akron PD RID
62523 ENC
62577 AKRON PD RID
62583 Summit Co Public works (Higway Dept?) RID
62673 Bath PD RID
62692 Cuyahoga Falls PD RID
62805 Summa PD RID
62835 UNK RID
62930 Summit SO RID

Man that’s a lot of new TGs for an already established system.

 

[WX4JCW]

Man that’s a lot of new TGs for an already established system.

a lot of them were just affiliations, i run unitrunker periodically and cross reference RID's

 

[WX4JCW]

Here is the Latest Unknowns I have for Summit County area

ID    Label    Hits    Super    FDMA    TDMA    Data    Secure
62930    UNK SUMMIT SHERIFF    0        No    No    No    No
45543    UNK TWINSBURG    0        No    No    No    No
45552    Unk University of Akron    0        No    No    No    No
13667    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
32500    UNKNOWN    14        No    No    No    Yes
32526    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
40576    UNKNOWN    1        Yes    No    No    No
40577    UNKNOWN    3        Yes    No    No    No
43503    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
45039    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
45558    UNKNOWN    3185        Yes    No    No    Yes
45559    UNKNOWN    186        Yes    No    No    Yes
49515    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
49539    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
51594    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
51651    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
53076    UNKNOWN    186        Yes    No    No    Yes
53080    UNKNOWN    19        No    No    No    Yes
53105    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
53114    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
53121    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
53124    UNKNOWN    7        No    No    No    Yes
53193    UNKNOWN    9        Yes    No    No    No
53214    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
53791    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
54038    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
54050    UNKNOWN    63        Yes    No    No    Yes
54122    UNKNOWN    5        No    No    No    Yes
54132    UNKNOWN    4        Yes    No    No    Yes
54142    UNKNOWN    18        Yes    No    No    Yes
54161    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
54169    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
54171    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
54173    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
54175    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
54218    UNKNOWN    27        No    No    No    Yes
54230    UNKNOWN    38        Yes    No    No    Yes
54882    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
54887    UNKNOWN    266        Yes    No    No    Yes
54896    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
54902    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
54909    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
54930    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
60504    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62501    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62503    UNKNOWN    1        Yes    No    No    No
62506    UNKNOWN    1        Yes    No    No    No
62508    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62520    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62522    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62523    UNKNOWN    1        No    No    No    Yes
62536    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62537    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62538    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62555    UNKNOWN    13        No    No    No    Yes
62556    UNKNOWN    605        Yes    No    No    Yes
62557    UNKNOWN    81        Yes    No    No    Yes
62558    UNKNOWN    3        No    No    No    Yes
62560    UNKNOWN    769        Yes    No    No    Yes
62563    UNKNOWN    56        No    No    No    Yes
62564    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62565    UNKNOWN    1604        Yes    No    No    Yes
62567    UNKNOWN    3373        Yes    No    No    Yes
62568    UNKNOWN    342        Yes    No    No    Yes
62570    UNKNOWN    509        Yes    No    No    Yes
62572    UNKNOWN    411        Yes    No    No    Yes
62575    UNKNOWN    32        Yes    No    No    Yes
62576    UNKNOWN    723        Yes    No    No    Yes
62577    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62578    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62583    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62601    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62615    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62619    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62622    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62627    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62639    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62658    UNKNOWN    53        Yes    No    No    Yes
62663    UNKNOWN    1        No    No    No    Yes
62673    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62685    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62692    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62710    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62711    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62782    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62796    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62805    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62807    UNKNOWN    14        Yes    No    No    No
62820    UNKNOWN    28        Yes    No    No    No
62825    UNKNOWN    16        Yes    No    No    Yes
62829    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62834    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62835    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62838    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62845    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62849    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62874    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62896    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62906    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62918    UNKNOWN    517        Yes    No    No    Yes
62921    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62922    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62945    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62953    UNKNOWN    23        No    No    No    Yes
62960    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62994    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62995    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62996    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
62997    UNKNOWN    0        No    No    No    No
45551    UNKNOWN AKRON    0        No    No    No    No
45512    UNKNOWN STOW    0        No    No    No    No
45519    UNKNOWN STOW    0        No    No    No    No
45514    UNKNOWN STOW PD    2        Yes    No    No    No

 

[WX4JCW]

45570 NEW TGID, Radios are all Akron Childrens Hospital, no voice yet

 

[jsoergel]

45570 NEW TGID, Radios are all Akron Childrens Hospital, no voice yet

Are all the ones from your previous posts off the Summit Co. tower? I’ll put at least some in the Wiki.

 

[WX4JCW]

all are from the Summit county tower, i havent made any runs on Cuyahoga yet i cant really pick up the others even from my discone

54887 for example has 266 transmissions so its very active but a lot of the Akron stuff is Encrypted

 

[Jphila20]

all are from the Summit county tower, i havent made any runs on Cuyahoga yet i cant really pick up the others even from my discone

54887 for example has 266 transmissions so its very active but a lot of the Akron stuff is Encrypted

I live in southern Lorain County, almost due west of Akron. I can get the Cuyahoga site but with 2 Yagi antennas. That site has 21 channels with 2 being in the 800 range while the rest are 700. With the 700 alone the 800 barely came in.

 

[jsoergel]

all are from the Summit county tower, i havent made any runs on Cuyahoga yet i cant really pick up the others even from my discone

54887 for example has 266 transmissions so its very active but a lot of the Akron stuff is Encrypted

Okay; I added most of the active and/or encrypted ones from your Unitrunker logs. Didn’t plug in the ones with very few hits. Let me know if you log additional RIDs on anything and I will add them to the Wiki entries.

 

[WX4JCW]

Okay; I added most of the active and/or encrypted ones from your Unitrunker logs. Didn’t plug in the ones with very few hits. Let me know if you log additional RIDs on anything and I will add them to the Wiki entries.

Will do good sir

 

[WX4JCW]

someone already Submitted one of the stow pd channels, awesome

 

[WX4JCW]

53791 Came up with a First Energy RID, Join only

62994 Stow FD Join
62995 Stow FD Join
62996 Stow FD Join
62997 Stow FD join
I'm wondering with the new Consolidated dispatch if they are re arranging and adding capacity

62960 had a Stow PD join as well

 

[mtindor]

ATTENTION: Southern Ohio (and Henry Co) MARCS listeners

See my previous post as well: MARCS-IP ("New MARCS") Site and Talkgroup Discussion

Looks like MARCS is adding freqs to many sites. In addition to those above, more construction notifications filed for new 800 mhz licenses for the following sites (which thus far only have 700 mhz freqs).

2.46 Holgate / Florida (Henry)
WRWF767 - ULS Application - 0010836721 - OHIO, STATE OF
852.5875
853.600
853.825
855.2375
857.0125

3.31 Athalia / Crown City (Lawrence)
WPQG952 - ULS Application - 0010836663 - OHIO, STATE OF - Notification
852.175
852.5625
852.95
858.7125
859.2625
859.4875

3.33 Huntington WV (Wayne Co WV)
WRWE984 - ULS Application - 0010836653 - OHIO, STATE OF - Notification
851.65
852.9125
853.725
858.0875
859.4375
859.7125

If you are in any of these areas and can monitor the sites, please do so and let us know when new frequencies need to be added to the DB for one of these sites.
Thanks

 

[rcid1971]

53791 Came up with a First Energy RID, Join only

62994 Stow FD Join
62995 Stow FD Join
62996 Stow FD Join
62997 Stow FD join
I'm wondering with the new Consolidated dispatch if they are re arranging and adding capacity

62960 had a Stow PD join as well

They're quickly learning their dispatch channels are too crowded, and they lack enough tactical channels, or in the case of most agencies, forgetting they can go back to their primary talk group as it's now vacated.

I'd be curious if some smaller agencies, say a Boston Hts, just moves the next contract back to Macedonia, or to Hudson/Peninsula as the Cuyahoga Falls dispatch is overwhelmed with agencies.

 

[N8WCP]

They're quickly learning their dispatch channels are too crowded, and they lack enough tactical channels, or in the case of most agencies, forgetting they can go back to their primary talk group as it's now vacated.

I'd be curious if some smaller agencies, say a Boston Hts, just moves the next contract back to Macedonia, or to Hudson/Peninsula as the Cuyahoga Falls dispatch is overwhelmed with agencies.

Stow, Tallmadge, and Mogadore PD have shared a dispatch talkgroup for years. The only thing that changed for them was the creation of Leads and Services talkgroups to take that traffic off the main. The same applies to Cuyahoga Falls, Munroe Falls, Silverlake, and Boston Hts PD who have been sharing a primary dispatch for many years. If you're going comment, it should be based on facts and not baseless assumptions.

 

[rcid1971]

Stow, Tallmadge, and Mogadore PD have shared a dispatch talkgroup for years. The only thing that changed for them was the creation of Leads and Services talkgroups to take that traffic off the main. The same applies to Cuyahoga Falls, Munroe Falls, Silverlake, and Boston Hts PD who have been sharing a primary dispatch for many years. If you're going comment, it should be based on facts and not baseless assumptions.

they added Fairlawn.

Talk to a dispatcher, heck, listen to their channel. It's not working as planned. Direct quote, "Increased call volume, limited resources, workstations that suck, added complexity of incidents involving multiple agencies, lack of previous interoperability, and thrown into the fire training and coordination is hindered by inefficient management."

 

[WX4JCW]

they added Fairlawn.

Talk to a dispatcher, heck, listen to their channel. It's not working as planned. Direct quote, "Increased call volume, limited resources, workstations that suck, added complexity of incidents involving multiple agencies, lack of previous interoperability, and thrown into the fire training and coordination is hindered by inefficient management."

same everywhere most comm centers across the country suffer from innecficent management

 

[wa8pyr]

same everywhere most comm centers across the country suffer from innecficent management

Is your comment based on fact, or just anecdotal? If it's fact, quote your sources and some reliable statistics. In my experience the problem has almost always been insufficient staffing; it's a high-stress job that has never been a popular choice as a career, a high percentage of the people who start the job can't hack it, and those who make it quickly suffer from overwork and burnout. Shift work just makes it more difficult; in my day, second and third shift were no picnic (especially third). Burnout happened to me too, and I enjoyed the job.

 

[rcid1971]

Is your comment based on fact, or just anecdotal? If it's fact, quote your sources and some reliable statistics. In my experience the problem has almost always been insufficient staffing; it's a high-stress job that has never been a popular choice as a career, a high percentage of the people who start the job can't hack it, and those who make it quickly suffer from overwork and burnout. Shift work just makes it more difficult; in my day, second and third shift were no picnic (especially third). Burnout happened to me too, and I enjoyed the job.

Is your experience based on the HR goals of the agency or your own? Do you have actual staffing level numbers to provide the forum or just your own guess?

We could play this game all day.

 

[Nasby]

Stow, Tallmadge, and Mogadore PD have shared a dispatch talkgroup for years. The only thing that changed for them was the creation of Leads and Services talkgroups to take that traffic off the main. The same applies to Cuyahoga Falls, Munroe Falls, Silverlake, and Boston Hts PD who have been sharing a primary dispatch for many years. If you're going comment, it should be based on facts and not baseless assumptions.

Stow and Tallmadge PDs were never on the same TG or frequency (vhf back in the day).
Both are very busy agencies. However, with MDTs and cellphones, the new shared TG seems to be working out.