New MPSCS site planned for the Owosso area in Shiwassee County near the Oak Grove Cemetery.
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Ron
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Ron
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The Berrien County Simulcast is live today.
Control channels, NAC? Are the other sites disabled or still up and running?
CC 852.7875
RFSS/Site 3/52
Other sites? Meaning the old config for the area? No, Sumnerville is still showing an active control channel (maybe to support Cass County?). I don't know enough about how all of this fits together to say for sure.
I don't have a SDS, use a G4 and BlueTail
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Simulcast Systems; Berrien County: Trying to understand this. Are all sites still active but with the same frequencies?
From my location, I have monitored several sites from my location with no issues. I would think technically,
has always been 'simulcast' so to speak. Example, when comm north was active, I received it
on the St. Joe, Coloma & Sumnerville Sites all at the same time, hence simulcast (but on different freqs).
Now, however all sites will have the exact same frequencies. I got to say if it wasn't broke, don't fix it!
It would seem to me if true, would cause more system issues with less frequencies when it got very busy.
I monitor (or at least did) four different counties from my location with ease on the sites I can hear.
Personally, I think it's just a way for Motorola to make more money at the taxpayers' expense.
They tell the powers to be "Hey, you need this" and there it goes. Without explanation, hard to comprehend
how this can be better...
From my location, I have monitored several sites from my location with no issues. I would think technically,
has always been 'simulcast' so to speak. Example, when comm north was active, I received it
on the St. Joe, Coloma & Sumnerville Sites all at the same time, hence simulcast (but on different freqs).
Now, however all sites will have the exact same frequencies. I got to say if it wasn't broke, don't fix it!
It would seem to me if true, would cause more system issues with less frequencies when it got very busy.
I monitor (or at least did) four different counties from my location with ease on the sites I can hear.
Personally, I think it's just a way for Motorola to make more money at the taxpayers' expense.
They tell the powers to be "Hey, you need this" and there it goes. Without explanation, hard to comprehend
how this can be better...
Sorry, I can't agree with almost everything you wrote.
I'm pretty good at reading this and if wrong, I'm sure I'll be corrected:
| 851.775000 scc |
| 852.787500 cc |
| 859.475000 scc |
Site 3-052 Berrien Simulcast
NAC 792
From a scanner user perspective, there's a good chance you might need to upgrade to an SDS scanner or a Unication since it's simulcast and you might have issues if you use anything else.
From a radio techs perspective (I'm not one), they probably look at it from a different perspective as far as coverage goes and aren't really concerned with a scanner user's feelings or thoughts...
As all, you are entitled to your opinion, however my main question was not answered.
Will all sites now have the exact same frequencies? (St. Joe/Coloma/Watervliet/Sumnerville/Sawyer/Grand Beach/Glendora)
If you are unable to answer this, maybe someone else can. Appreciate your time.
That was not written as a question in post #187, it was a statement. This is the only item I agree with that you wrote.
All Berrien County sites have the exact same frequencies, this is the definition of simulcast.
Sorry I asked!
dispatchgeek
Control channel goes "brrrrr"
Simulcast in my area was implemented for spectral efficiency. We couldn’t get enough clear frequencies to stand up additional sites for coverage, so we opted to go simulcast. Was it cheap? No. Sometimes you pay for the right tools for your folks on the road. We have very few known “dead spots” these days. Responder safety is much improved from a comms perspective. From a technical and operations perspective, it was absolutely the right choice.
I was wondering why my scanners went deaf on Monday.
I updated my SDS with the new freq/NAC and can now hear the Sumnerville tower.
I have a question regarding simulcast now - it sounds like all towers will now use the same CC (852.7875).
Do all the towers also have the same NAC (792) and Site (3-052) too?
Thanks.
Yes they do. When the database entry is updated, it will contain the control channels now used and all the voice frequencies as well as the new NAC. I'd assume the other Berrien County sites will be deleted to avoid confusion, but that's up to the local database administrators as well as the rules.I was wondering why my scanners went deaf on Monday.
I updated my SDS with the new freq/NAC and can now hear the Sumnerville tower.
I have a question regarding simulcast now - it sounds like all towers will now use the same CC (852.7875).
Do all the towers also have the same NAC (792) and Site (3-052) too?
Thanks.
This seems like it will make programming the SDS and Unications easier. So I would essentially not need separate entries for each tower in the county, correct? One entry with the single freq/NAC will pick up every tower now as I roam?
Also, what do you mean by voice frequencies? Are they the secondary control channels (scc)?
thanks.
Yes it is easier and you only will need to program the red highlighted control channels once the entry is made in the database. The trunking database entries always have the red highlighted control channel frequencies plus the non-highlighted voice frequencies is what I was referring to.
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I have a whistler WD1040. Is there any way to use it with MPSCS now that Berrien has gone phase 2 simulcast?
Hi, I'm still receiving Berrien on my BCD396T and I am pretty sure that's Phase 1 only.
If wrong, I'm certain I will be corrected. (by Hit Factor)
