MRRS System (MTA PD)

[GTR8000]

As has been stated many, many times...it's all about affiliation. If no subscriber is affiliated with a particular zone, regardless of the proximity to the agency in question, no traffic will be carried. This system makes heavy use of LTE to carry voice traffic, and so if all subscribers happen to be using LTE at any given time, the RF resources are going to be silent.

Oh and PS, you are absolutely not receiving the Corning Tower (which is in Albany) while in White Plains. Some of the frequencies are shared between zones, so you're almost certainly picking up Zone 3.

 

[joeya7]

As has been stated many, many times...it's all about affiliation. If no subscriber is affiliated with a particular zone, regardless of the proximity to the agency in question, no traffic will be carried. This system makes heavy use of LTE to carry voice traffic, and so if all subscribers happen to be using LTE at any given time, the RF resources are going to be silent.

Oh and PS, you are absolutely not receiving the Corning Tower (which is in Albany) while in White Plains. Some of the frequencies are shared between zones, so you're almost certainly picking up Zone 3.

If I'm outside the Port Chester area I review them on Zone 3. According to the display it shows Corning Tower

 

[GTR8000]

It shows Corning Tower because you're scanning the site while in Westchester, well outside the reception area. Lock out that site, there is absolutely no reason for you to be scanning it unless you're in Albany, and I guarantee the scanner will stop on Zone 3.

 

[joeya7]

It shows Corning Tower because you're scanning the site while in Westchester, well outside the reception area. Lock out that site, there is absolutely no reason for you to be scanning it unless you're in Albany, and I guarantee the scanner will stop on Zone 3.

Okay. What about the Metro 25 site should I scan that?

 

[APX8000]

As has been stated many, many times...it's all about affiliation. If no subscriber is affiliated with a particular zone, regardless of the proximity to the agency in question, no traffic will be carried.

The time has arrived once again....

 

[GTR8000]

Okay. What about the Metro 25 site should I scan that?

Only scan the sites that you can actually receive. Trying to scan sites that you can't reliably receive is a waste of time. I suggest sticking with Zone 3 only based on your location.

 

[joeya7]

Only scan the sites that you can actually receive. Trying to scan sites that you can't reliably receive is a waste of time. I suggest sticking with Zone 3 only based on your location.

Thank you very much for your help and knowledge

 

[Davefire239]

I don't think Ossining primary dispatch is on MRRS yet. They have been using MRRS for special events / TAC related stuff on an occasional basis.

What tg?!

 

[seagravebuff60]

Corning Tower in white plains?... Hmm, that's a new one....

In all seriousness, to expand on GTR's point in post #581 above, yes, it is all about affiliations. While I haven't heard that the specific PDs in question use LTE heavily, I assume they may use it sometimes, so of course, you won't hear them; you will only hear them if they affiliate with RF. There have been many issues with others trying to pick up Zone 3 in that area, so you are not alone. Both have been stated here many, many times. So, That poor horse must be decayed at this point. lol

Additionally, Zone 3 and the Corning Tower in Albany share 769.90625, which is Zone 3's active control channel right now. So I bet you were scanning all the sites, and the scanner mistook 769.90625 as Corning when it, in fact, was Zone 3. That's why reading off the scanner, especially when searching, isn't always 100% accurate. The site NAC would be an excellent giveaway to see what site you are actually picking up.

If you just want to listen to PDs in the Port Chester area, I'd agree to stick with zone 3. Having other zones/simulcasts programmed wastes time because the scanner will get busy scanning nothing, so you will miss important transmissions. But if you want to scan all the PDs on MRRS in Westchester (like me lol), I recommend scanning Zones 2 & 3. Some departments only affiliate to one zone, and some affiliate to both.

I hope this helps as well!

 

[joeya7]

Corning Tower in white plains?... Hmm, that's a new one....

In all seriousness, to expand on GTR's point in post #581 above, yes, it is all about affiliations. While I haven't heard that the specific PDs in question use LTE heavily, I assume they may use it sometimes, so of course, you won't hear them; you will only hear them if they affiliate with RF. There have been many issues with others trying to pick up Zone 3 in that area, so you are not alone. Both have been stated here many, many times. So, That poor horse must be decayed at this point. lol

Additionally, Zone 3 and the Corning Tower in Albany share 769.90625, which is Zone 3's active control channel right now. So I bet you were scanning all the sites, and the scanner mistook 769.90625 as Corning when it, in fact, was Zone 3. That's why reading off the scanner, especially when searching, isn't always 100% accurate. The site NAC would be an excellent giveaway to see what site you are actually picking up.

If you just want to listen to PDs in the Port Chester area, I'd agree to stick with zone 3. Having other zones/simulcasts programmed wastes time because the scanner will get busy scanning nothing, so you will miss important transmissions. But if you want to scan all the PDs on MRRS in Westchester (like me lol), I recommend scanning Zones 2 & 3. Some departments only affiliate to one zone, and some affiliate to both.

I hope this helps as well!

Very helpful thank you. I do believe Port Chester relies heavily on LTE. We've been told the RF coverage is not that good in the area and they are supposed to be building out a site in Harrison

 

[seagravebuff60]

We've been told the RF coverage is not that good in the area

Ah, okay. I'm assuming that might be a contributing factor to why you can't pick it up. I'm not 100% familiar with the area, but all I know is there aren't monster sites for zone 3 at high elevations. FCC won't be reviling on the site locations because it's a blanket NYS Licence. See post #419 for additional info.

they are supposed to be building out a site in Harrison

Where in Harrison? I also think they are trying to build a subsite at Winged Foot Golf Club in Mamaroneck.

 

[joeya7]

Ah, okay. I'm assuming that might be a contributing factor to why you can't pick it up. I'm not 100% familiar with the area, but all I know is there aren't monster sites for zone 3 at high elevations. FCC won't be reviling on the site locations because it's a blanket NYS Licence. See post #419 for additional info.


Where in Harrison? I also think they are trying to build a subsite at Winged Foot Golf Club in Mamaroneck.

I heard Westchester County Club since the Town of Harrison PD is now on the system.

 

[seagravebuff60]

I heard Westchester County Club since the Town of Harrison PD is now on the system.

Cool. Thats true. Also, there were rumors of Mamaroneck/Larchmont PD joining the system. I wonder how that will work out. I receive their UHF okayish in Northern Westchester.

 

[joeya7]

Mamaroneck Town & Village plus Village of Larchmont Police are on a legacy VHF "system"

The County should just build out the current P25 system or find a way to have a County wide system for all agencies.

 

[seagravebuff60]

The County should just build out the current P25 system or find a way to have a County wide system for all agencies.

True. I wish, but DES will likely never let that happen; they are very protective of their system. But that's another rabbit hole discussion for later, lol.

I bet we will see every PD agency in the county go to MRRS at some point before they join A66 and DES will be left to figure out what they did wrong.

 

[joeya7]

True. I wish, but DES will likely never let that happen; they are very protective of their system. But that's another rabbit hole discussion for later, lol.

I bet we will see every PD agency in the county go to MRRS at some point before they join A66 and DES will be left to figure out what they did wrong.

Valid point

 

[KC2GSP]

I was skeptical about my job joining the system but we did a lot of fair and unbiased testing over the course of a month with a pair of loaner radios that MTA will give to you to use if you're interested in joining.

The takeaway was that the system was often as good or exceeded the abilities of our current system; analog, UHF with *2 microwave receivers (it's supposed to be 3 but the third is down indefinitely due to location issues). The price tag was the major deterrent at roughly $7k per radio. We've been purchasing 7-8 Kenwood NX series radios for the same cost to replace our fleet or aging HT1250's.

The interoperability alone from MRRS and the multiband radios would have been nice. Oh well. I still monitor the system in my office with my G5 while at work

 

[ff026]

A whole month?

 

[dave3825]

FYI, not found in DB,
91FE8.26E-161.161 $0A1
Neighbor 21.21

OK I am guessing it would be a site from Suffolk then. 95% of the traffic so far is D1/D2 PD with a handful of D6/D7 hits. And a few 9650 Northwell hits.

Were any of the members monitoring this system on LI able to get further info on Site 161 which was suspected to be ON the island, possibly in the Sulfok County Area?

I have been all over the Island with the 436 (month and a half ago) and did not receive it in Nassau. I get a full scale hits on Rt 27 in North Patchogue (Suffolk) but lose it when trying to hunt it down a mile and all directions. Get full scale @ William Floyd pkwy out in Mastic (Suffolk) but could not pin point it. Was not coming from Mastic rail. Checked Ronkonkoma rail and could not obtain a signal. Went North up to Hauppauge and could not obtain a signal. Checked Patchogue rail and determined Zone 1 is transmitting from there.

Running 2 instances of SDRT, one on Zone 1 and the other on 161. In 24 hours 161 had 10 gps locations broadcast and Zone 1 had close to 50.


Zone 1. Nothing East of Ronkonkoma





161 Has hits East of Ronkonkoma with nothing West of Garden City (Nassau) and nothing past Port Chester.





If only someone on Long Island had a KrackenRf

 

[joeya7]

I have been all over the Island with the 436 (month and a half ago) and did not receive it in Nassau. I get a full scale hits on Rt 27 in North Patchogue (Suffolk) but lose it when trying to hunt it down a mile and all directions. Get full scale @ William Floyd pkwy out in Mastic (Suffolk) but could not pin point it. Was not coming from Mastic rail. Checked Ronkonkoma rail and could not obtain a signal. Went North up to Hauppauge and could not obtain a signal. Checked Patchogue rail and determined Zone 1 is transmitting from there.

Running 2 instances of SDRT, one on Zone 1 and the other on 161. In 24 hours 161 had 10 gps locations broadcast and Zone 1 had close to 50.


Zone 1. Nothing East of Ronkonkoma

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161 Has hits East of Ronkonkoma with nothing West of Garden City (Nassau) and nothing past Port Chester.

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If only someone on Long Island had a KrackenRf

What exactly do the numbers in blue represent?