Sticky Thread For Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2021

[mdmonitor]

Germany awards contract to Boeing for five P-8A Poseidon aircraft

Germany on Tuesday awarded a production contract to American plane-maker Boeing for five P-8A Poseidon aircraft. According to a company news release, first deliveries are slated to begin in 2024 when the P-8A Poseidon will eventually replace Germany’s fleet of P-3C Orion aircraft. “We’re pleased...

defence-blog.com

 

[BM82557]

20 KC-135s Were Rapidly Launched Out Of Fairchild AFB This Morning (Updated)

A massive flock of KC-135 tankers left Fairchild AFB in quick succession this morning and are now flying across the country.

www.thedrive.com

Looks like most of the herd is back in the barn --

 

[mdmonitor]

1726- Iron 99 (E-6B # 164409 VQ-4 Det) off PAX. Working Potomac (135.625). Headed towards Richmond then turned west. Maybe heading back to Tinker?

 

[freqhopping]

20 KC-135s Were Rapidly Launched Out Of Fairchild AFB This Morning (Updated)

A massive flock of KC-135 tankers left Fairchild AFB in quick succession this morning and are now flying across the country.

www.thedrive.com

Looks like most of the herd is back in the barn --

Three KC-10s departed Travis AFB together midday with BIXBY callsigns. One was miscoded with AE3FFE. They're back in the pattern right now.

 

[Mark]

20 KC-135s Were Rapidly Launched Out Of Fairchild AFB This Morning (Updated)

A massive flock of KC-135 tankers left Fairchild AFB in quick succession this morning and are now flying across the country.

www.thedrive.com

Looks like most of the herd is back in the barn --

Wonder if the 92 AW did a elephant walk prior to launch.. Sounds like it.
Guessed right for once
Fairchild AFB sees largest launch of KC-135 fleet in base history (airforcetimes.com)

1900 local EAGLE-1 C-5M 84-0061 off Dover .. Odd callsign for Dover C-5.
1925 EAGLE-01 turning Northwest at Long Island maybe headed for Westover.

 

[Mark]

1445 EDT- SPUR 98 checking on with ZKC advising AR with GRIFFIN 01 flight. No confirmation on GRIFFIN type ?

Interesting as both SPUR's rtb McGuire.. SPUR-98 came inbound alpha 1.Seems they tanked somebody fairly low out there
then did rtb McGuire.

 

[GriffissSpotter]

TEAM 43 and EAGLE 01 headed to the AR-206 IP, still waiting on the initial contact on AR-206L primary (235.100).

 

[rjsincs]

P8 AE6841 doing T&G at KAVP tonight. It would be too dark to see anywho.

 

[AirScan]

Interesting as both SPUR's rtb McGuire.. SPUR-98 came inbound alpha 1.Seems they tanked somebody fairly low out there
then did rtb McGuire.

SPUR 99 mentioned to ZKC they were dragging 4 aircraft in the GRIFFIN flight and that their destination was Langley. Still wasn't able to get an ID on the type.

Couple of possibilites from Rons list ?

GRIFFIN F/A-18E VFA-113 NAS Oceana VA
GRIFFIN F-16C/D 194th FS, CA ANG Fresno ANGB CA

 

[AirScan]

Looks like most of the herd is back in the barn --

As far as I can tell these were the 20 KC-135s involved in the excercise. 5 flights with 4 in each. Not sure about 62-3509, maybe a spare, so I might have missed one ?

 

[Madfox]

P8s are about to start swapping, TRIDENT01 169545 VP-26 into Kadena today, route was KNIP>KNTD>PHNL>RODN, should get VP-16 (TALON) going east from KNIP, unsure of where the Whidbey P-8s go yet but will be VP-1 & VP-47 deploying, one going east & one west.

 

[morfis]

SPUR 99 mentioned to ZKC they were dragging 4 aircraft in the GRIFFIN flight and that their destination was Langley. Still wasn't able to get an ID on the type.

Couple of possibilites from Rons list ?

GRIFFIN F/A-18E VFA-113 NAS Oceana VA
GRIFFIN F-16C/D 194th FS, CA ANG Fresno ANGB CA

Certainly not this one:
GRIFFIN Hercules LTW - RAF Lyneham , UK

Old 70 Squadron callsign. They disbanded around 2010 and the rest of the hercs left Lyneham for Brize Norton in 2011. In 2012 Lyneham shut as an RAF base. I don't recall hearing the callsign by them used since.

For those who do like to keep lists of such things the hercs use
ALBERT
JUDGEMENT
OMEN
REYNARD
STRIKER
ZORRO
If heard over in US most likely ASCOT1xxx probably

...and to get things more MA-related.... little sign of activity in the E3, 162782, yesterday

 

[Mark]

Maybe next Summer now Langley will get busier.. Sure will bring in more daily F-22,T-38 flights

Timing for F-22 unit move to Langley still uncertain - Daily Press

 

[AirScan]

Re: SPUR 98-99

GRIFFIN F-16C/D 194th FS, CA ANG Fresno ANGB CA

I found those GRIFFIN flights departing Fresno/KFAT and ID'd as F-15s when they got their clearance to Langley (2 flights of 4). Looks like the F-15 replaced the F-16 at the 194th FS back in 2013.

 

[Mark]

Nice catches.. Those guys coming East with ER fuel tanks and flying for max fuel economy made it on a single A/R.Bet will need two A/Rs when they go home.Hopefully will catch them working with Langley aggressor jets offshore.Now just need some of their A/A freqs.

 

[mdmonitor]

Nice catches.. Those guys coming East with ER fuel tanks and flying for max fuel economy made it on a single A/R.Bet will need two A/Rs when they go home.Hopefully will catch them working with Langley aggressor jets offshore.Now just need some of their A/A freqs.

Mark,

Googled 144th FW and found this:

Callsigns

• Crud (Possibly deprecated)
• Cuervo(Possibly depreciated)
• Dogs (Training flights)
• Griffin (New callsign 4/2016)
• Hyper (New callsign 4/2016)
• Jedi (New callsign 4/2016 - Possibly depreciated)
• Phat (NORAD air defense flights)
• Razor (Training flights)
• Smash?
• Surf (Detachment based at March ARB)

Frequencies
Tacticals

• 225.3000 Air-to-air
• 256.2500 Air-to-air
• 226.2250 Air-to-air
• 240.1750 Air-to-air
• 271.0000 NORAD
• 282.6000 NORAD
• 298.3000 Fresno ANG Ops

Preset/Button List

• CH 1 --
• CH 2 --
• CH 3 -- 251.1000 Fresno Yosemite Intl. Tower
• CH 4 -- 351.9500 Fresno Approach/Departure
• CH 5 -- 323.2500 Fresno Approach/Departure
• CH 6 -- 327.0000 Oakland Center
• CH 7 -- 353.8000 Oakland Center
• CH 8 -- 285.4000 Oakland Center
• CH 9 -- 290.5000 Oakland Center
• CH 10 - 307.0000 Oakland Center
• CH 11 - 307.1250 Norcal Approach/Departure
• CH 12 - 328.4500 Beaver Control (FACSFAC San Diego)
• CH 13 - 322.3000 Joshua Approach (High Desert TRACON)
• CH 14 - 348.6750 Norcal Approach/Departure
• CH 15 - 317.7750 Norcal Approach/Departure
• CH 16 -
• CH 17 -
• CH 18 -
• CH 19 -
• CH 20 -

 

[AirScan]

Those guys coming East with ER fuel tanks and flying for max fuel economy made it on a single A/R.

Usually it seems on these types of cross country trips the tankers will stay down low with the fighters for most of the flight ? And using "SPUR" tankers for something like this seems a bit odd too ?

Like yesterday there was a SATAN 91 flight on a more typical mission dragging 6 chicks westbound, no ID on the type. First time I've heard the 157 ARW/133 ARS out of Peace use the SATAN callsign. Maybe because they were dragging Tyndall F-22s ?

Rons list - SATAN, F-22s 43rd FS Tyndall AFB FL

 

[AirScan]

NAF 43 into KPSM.

 

[bruinsaviator]

Usually it seems on these types of cross country trips the tankers will stay down low with the fighters for most of the flight ? And using "SPUR" tankers for something like this seems a bit odd too ?

Like yesterday there was a SATAN 91 flight on a more typical mission dragging 6 chicks westbound, no ID on the type. First time I've heard the 157 ARW/133 ARS out of Peace use the SATAN callsign. Maybe because they were dragging Tyndall F-22s ?

Rons list - SATAN, F-22s 43rd FS Tyndall AFB FL

SATAN91 dragged the Blue Angels Westbound yesterday. Interesting callsign from the 157th, but it is the name of a local Initial Approach Fix (IAF) which means it must have a local meaning to it.

 

[AirScan]

SATAN91 dragged the Blue Angels Westbound yesterday. Interesting callsign from the 157th, but it is the name of a local Initial Approach Fix (IAF) which means it must have a local meaning to it.

Ah, Blue Angels, cool. I see whoever came up with the names for that approach is also a Looney Tunes fan. RNAV (GPS) 16.