Sticky Thread for MilAir

[TinEar]

1853: CRAB 51 (C-130J MD-ANG) with Phillips AAF «126.15» for landing. Wants runway lights turned off.

1906: BULLY F-16 flight airborne from Andrews with TRACON «348.725» on climbout and tac «143.6» This is a flight of four heading for Pax.
1911: BULLY flight handed off to ZDC-Calvert «281.4» checking in in a non-standard formation flight of four.
1912: BULLY flight to Pax River BayWatch on «270.8» entering area at 13,000 feet.
1914: BULLY to BayWatch to report they'll be using airspace up to 25,000 and will be in the area for up to one hour. «270.8»
1914: LION 71 (1st FW Langley) flight into GK's area «249.8» and say they'll be dropping flares.
1915: BULLY flight reports established in the airspace. «270.8»
1919: LION 71 established in the airspace and changing freq «249.8»
1919: ???? 81 flight into GK's area on «249.8» for 30 minutes of work.
1924: GK's ops freq «292.3» active (LION 71 or ???? 81 flight)
1927: Two or three MUSSEL helicopters operating around the area with MUSSEL Control on «292.2», with ADW Approach on «119.3» and with DCA Helo Control on «120.75».
1932: TROJAN 91 to GK on «249.8» (after trying 238.1), flight of two, into GK's airspace.
TROJAN callsign listed for F/A-18s from Oceana, however, TROJAN says they'll be working with a COOP flight (1st FW Langley) for the next 30 minutes. I believe TROJAN is also a Langley callsign.
1935: COOP 71 into GK's area on «238.1» and then «249.8» to say they'll be working with TROJAN 91 for next 30 minutes. COOP IDs as a two ship flight.
1937: GK's ops freq «373.1» active.
1938: Langley tac freq «276.675» active. Callsign COOP working here.
1940: A-10s from Martin State airborne and on tac freq «142.3»
1940: MOVER 45 (KC-10 McGuire) arriving McGuire with CP on «319.4»

NOTE: Listen for an exercise to take place late tonight involving Andrews F-16s, Customs and others.

1944: GK's ops freq «312.3» active.
1945: Believe it's the Martin State A-10s I'm hearing into BayWatch area on «354.8»
1955: TROJAN 92 at FL 230 to GK with a request «249.8» to proceed along the southern border of A thru F....direct Snow Hill.

2001: LION 71 out of GK's area heading for HEELS on the way back to Langley «249.8»
2005: BULLY flight has had enough in the Pax River area and is heading home...change to Reagan TRACON to report flight of four is heading home to Andrews «270.275» They're still using tac «143.6»
2007: BULLY flight to SENATE SOF on «139.9» where they report mission results and Codes. All Code 1 except 4 which is Code 2 for interior lighting. Back on tac «143.6» they report de-goggling. (NVGs).
2012: BULLYs flip over to ADW Tower on U-4 for landing on runway 1R. «349.0»
2016: CRAB 51 is still in pattern work, touch and goes at Phillips AAF «126.15»
2020: COOP 71 flight reports RTB to GK as they leave his area «249.8»
2021: COOP 71 flight with ZDC-Cape Charles «256.8»
2022: VAPOR 81 (1st FW Langley), flight of four, with GK on «249.8» A thru J for the next 40 minutes. MARSA with SPAD. VAPOR flight on ops freq «312.3»
2024: VAPOR flight on Langley tac «315.85»
2025: TROJAN 91 flight of three (came in as flight of two) with GK on «249.8» to report RTB
2026: TROJAN 93 reports RTB...15 mile trail behind 91 and 92 «249.8»
2028: TROJAN 93 reports direct HEELS «249.8»
2028: COOP 71 reports non-standard formation «256.8»
2028: CRAB 51 now with Martin State Tower on «121.3»
2032: TROJAN flight (91 and 92) with Norfolk TRACON (East) «370.925»
2035: Langley tac freq «233.525» active. Callsign SPAD. F-22A aircraft.
2037: TROJAN 93 with Norfolk TRACON «370.925»
2037: Refueling freq «238.9» active.
2039: CRAB 55 (C-130J MD-ANG) with MTN Tower «121.3»
2039: RAVEN pair of A-10s reports de-goggling.
2041: CRAB 55 reports gear down, asks lights to be turned down as low as they can get them. «121.3»
2045: RAVEN A-10 pair to MTN Tower for landing on «297.2» reporting 9 miles to the south.
2047: RAVEN wants to know if they have any runway edge lights for them....and they get them. «297.2» Report gear down, full stop.
Everything is finally slowing down. Just have a couple of flights out of Langley working 315.85 and 233.525. Time now to get serious watching the basketball games in the background. I notice Signature Flight Ops at BWI is rebroadcasting the LSU-Duke game on their 462.1375 freq - I guess for the benefit of any pilots listening in.

(Ref below) Appreciate the ID Chuck. It is a busy MilAir night. Can't get it all. Very busy during the daytime today also.

Travis, MUSSEL 6 was one of the helos I heard in 1927 log item.

 

[n3bxv]

1945- 1950 Yep it's Raven-1 Flight into Baywatch, having trouble with a a squeal on <354.8>, change to <256.5>... A/A 142.3

 

[freqhopping]

Bluegrass Ops is calling MUSSELL-06 on 241.0. I thought I heard a helo a while ago, but if so they were on a different route than usual.

2040- Bluegrass is still calling, but no response. I've been receiving Bluegrass very well lately, they must've fixed something.

2042- I just found MUSSELL with Dulles Tower on 128.425, wanted to know whether he should just follow Rt.7. I'll be seeing him soon.

2047- Apparently he was heading east, passed over the tower and just cleared both runways. I don't know why he was asking about following Rt7.

 

[russ29643]

2313: CAP 2536 on 148.1375
2315: BRAVE 65 on 348.725
2316: BRAVE 65 & someone else 139.7
2318: someone giving directions on BRAVE 65 & 66 on 270.25
2320: BRAVE ?(sounds like 65 voice) talking to someone about setting up a CAP over Andrews 348.725
BRAVE 65 very loud tonight, haven't heard 66
2327: mentioned blue 13 and something about Washington center on uniform...sorry only hearing 1/2 of conversation 139.7
2333: EAGLE 761 stating field and river in sight 125.65
2336: commo check on 288.35 missed the callsigns
2338: BRAVE 65 advised to do a spin and relock? Then mentioned radar contact and cleared to leave the MOA 139.7
2341: authentication and birddog? BRAVE 65 on 139.7

 

[TinEar]

Take it away Russ....you're doing a good job logging it. I totally forgot about the exercise. Got wrapped up in NCAA basketball games.

0031: HUNTRESS tells the BRAVE flight they can RTB. «139.7» HUNTRESS is very loud and clear on this freq during the exercise.
0032: BRAVE 65 flight to Andrews Approach on «335.5» to head for the field. He mentions he's sending BRAVE 66 to Nottingham to hold for about 20 minutes.
0033: BRAVE 65 is Code 2, 66 is Code 1. They're with CAPITOL on «139.7»
0054: BRAVE 66 heading for the field and it's done.

 

[ka3jjz]

There's been several threads regarding the NORAD Blue freqs over on the Milcom list. From the exercise that happened last weekend, it's thought Blue 13 might be 260.9, which is a popular freq used very frequently in several past CAPs in our area.

73s Mike

 

[TinEar]

Not sure about the Milcom list Mike but Travis (freqhopping) provided that info about the Blue freqs on this list during the last CAP. See message #1827

Sounds fairly quiet this morning although I haven't had a lot of time to monitor the MilAir freqs. There's a bit of activity out of Langley - apparently in W-386 - but that's about it.

1138: Pair of tankers on interplane freq «139.875» flying at 18000 and 18500 feet. They are just calling each other 1 and 2.
1143: Pair of fighters on tac «138.425». Probably F-16s of the NJ-ANG but no callsigns heard yet. (About 10 minutes later they just disappear from listening range. The NJ F-16s had been doing a lot of low level flying in VR and SR routes which makes them almost impossible to hear unless you're very near them.)

1207: Had a pair of aircraft - sounding like transports - with ZDC-Gordonsville «351.9» flying in non-standard 3-mile trail in altitude block 27-28,000. Callsign sounds very much like FLOYD 11 but that doesn't compute in the callsign databases I have. Push 270.35
1213: ?FLOYD? 11 to ZDC-Shenandoah «270.35» where they try to check in but say the freq is noisy and want Shenandoah's VHF freq. They are sent to 135.77(5) but I didn't follow them there. That also presents a problem. Shenandoah's VHF is listed as 133.575 and 135.775 is not listed for anybody. New freq? Mistake?
1220: Langley tac freq «276.675» active.
1230: ROMAN 45 (F/A-18 VFA-106 Oceana NAS) with Giant Killer on «249.8» entering area.
1234: Refueling freq «387.8» is active.

1330: Raven Ops «143.8» active.
1340: Northrup-Grumman test flight freq «123.225» is active. N162W is the tail number.
1345: A-10s from Martin State active on tac «142.3» They report airborne at (13)44. Callsign RAVEN.
1347: RAVEN flight to BWI TRACON «317.425» where they report in non-standard formation - 3 miles apart. Handed off to 254.35
1349: RAVEN flight to BWI TRACON «254.35» where they report going to VR-1709. (Another of those low level flights.) They are currently flying at 3000 feet.
1352: RAVEN flight descending to 1600 feet, cancel IFR and are handed off to Pax Approach on 281.8 which they identify as U-8. «254.35» (Never do hear them on 281.8 probably because of low altitude.)
Chuck, this confirms U-8 for the Wiki which you were waiting for.

Does anyone have a clue on frequency 235.625? Had an aircraft early in the 1300 hour with ZDC-Calvert 281.4 that got handed off to 235.625. I went to that freq and heard the same aircraft reporting his continued climb as directed by Calvert. In context, 235.625 should be another ZDC freq but I can't say that for sure since he was already talking by the time I entered the frequency into the scanner and didn't hear who he called.

SAM Command/Andrews Command Post is back in business on the 378.1 frequency today. At least at this time they don't appear to be having any trouble communicating. Let's see if that lasts.

Continued below if necessary..........

 

[TinEar]

1400: U/I fighters on tac freq «138.75»
1415: COBRA 30 (E6 VAQ-209 Andrews) with ADW Tower on «349.0» reporting 15 minutes out. (Seems the wrong freq for that.)
1418: Flight of four fighters - probably F-16s from Richmond VA-ANG - working tac «141.875» Believe the callsign is FURY.
1428: VA-ANG F-16s, while on «141.875» say to switch to V-16 and come up on «139.625» Two of them to 139.625 and two stay on 141.875.
1432: FURY 34 asking Giant Killer if the test track in W-386 is active. «249.8» They were talking about this very thing on 139.625.
1435: Also have fighter tac freq «141.825» active. Should be more VA-ANG F-16s. Turns out to be callsign SLAM.
1445: MAPLE 1 (F-16 VT-ANG Burlington) with ZDC-Azalea on «263.1»
1447: MAPLE 1 to ZDC-Casanova «282.2»
1449: FURY 31 flight to Giant Killer on «249.8»
1453: MAPLE 1 to ZDC-Linden «319.1»
1455: MAPLE 1 to ZDC-Hagerstown «227.125» Route is MICAH (he doesn't know where that is either), then to Albany and then Burlington.
MICAH=40-09-33.110N / 077-26-47.040W (PENNSYLVANIA)
1459: MAPLE 1 handed off to ZNY-Harrisburg «270.3» direct Albany.

1502: MAPLE 1's next stop is with ZNY-Philipsburg «306.2» where he checks in at FL 270.
1506: MAPLE 1 to ZNY-Milton «269.1» again checks in at FL 270.
1506: MAPLE 81 flight coming behind MAPLE 1. MAPLE 81 with ZDC-Linden «319.1» He was handed off to this freq by ZDC-Montebello «284.7»
1509: MAPLE 1 to ZNY-Stoneyfork «273.6» FL 270.
1511: MAPLE 1 to ZNY-Elmira «298.9» FL 270. (This was the last heard from him.)
1515: MAPLE 81 with ZNY-Westminister «323.3» FL 270
1516: MAPLE 81 with ZNY-Harrisburg «270.3» Reports as single ship at FL 270.
1517: Evac 33119 with Andrews on «141.55» Upon arrival has 15 litter patients, 16 ambulatory patients and 1 pax to offload. Prior to this freq, he was with ZDC-Sea Isle «281.45» descending from 26 to 24,000 feet. 33119 signing off with ZDC-Sea Isle at 1526.
1521: MAPLE 81 to ZNY-Philipsburg «306.2» "Single 270."
1522: MAPLE 81 to ZNY-Milton «269.1» "Single 270."
1528: MAPLE 81 to ZNY-Stoneyfork «273.6»
1528: And now a MAPLE 91 flight with ZNY-Westminister «323.3»
1529: MAPLE 81 with ZNY-Elmira «298.9» (And he's fading out at this point - just as MAPLE 1 did.)
1532: MAPLE 91 with ZNY-Harrisburg «270.3» FL 270.
1534: RAVEN, flight of three A-10s, coming home to MTN with Tower on «297.2» Prior to that with Raven Ops on «347.2». They're using tac «142.3»
1537: MAPLE 91 to ZNY-Philipsburg «306.2» "270"
1541: MAPLE 91 to ZNY-Milton «269.1» "At 27" (Last heard here...weaker transmitter I guess than the others.)
1543: Have a couple of fighters coming into Andrews on Approach freq «335.5» No callsign heard.
1545: BOBCAT 69 (same guy heard on 335.5,) with ADW Tower «349.0» landing on runway 1R...gear down and locked. (Can't put an ID with that BOBCAT callsign.)

That's enough...END OF REPORT

 

[Vschlitz]

CAP for Saturday and Sunday

Fdc 6/3670 Zdc Part 1 Of 4 Flight Restrictions Hagerstown/thurmont, Maryland, March 25-26, 2006 Local. Pursuant To Title 14, Section 91.141 Of The Code Of Federal Regulations, Aircraft Flight Operations Are Prohibited. Within A 10 Nmr Of 393853n/0772800w Or The Mrb055023.7 Up To But Not Including Fl180 Effective: 0603251300 Utc (0800 Local 03/25/06) Until 0603261800 Utc (1300 Local 03/26/06).

 

[jerseymilair]

The <260.900> freq. is active here in NJ. Also the <139.875> mentioned above is often used by the McGuire tankers. I have heard them many times refering to themselves as "1" and "2". Latley they been using <143.825> as there interplane freq.
Steve

 

[freqhopping]

Network testing is active again on 313.7. GREEN DOMINION is one of the callsigns.

 

[ka3jjz]

Not sure about the Milcom list Mike but Travis (freqhopping) provided that info about the Blue freqs on this list during the last CAP. See message #1827

Yeah, I saw that list, Tin - thanks for reminding me. However, that scanning site has to do with the KC area - and I think - I could easily be wrong - that's a different sector as NORAD has them defined. It is possible that there are some 'common' frequencies, tho. It's not like we can walk up to a pilot and ask.... :wink:

73s Mike

 

[russ29643]

NORAD sectors

here is a link to the NORAD sectors
http://www.faa.gov/Atpubs/MIL/Ch4/mil0405.html#Lzedq378atcn

 

[ka3jjz]

An interesting link - it does show the sector divisions, but not too much beyond that. To be honest I thought there were 1 or 2 other sectors for the Plains and Southwest, but I guess not. 73s Mike

 

[russ29643]

0743: TANKER 11 (one one) with HUNTRESS verifying that 260.9 will be the boom freq today as well as be the area freq. Couldn't hear HUNTRESS but TANKER 11 very loud and clear. <260.9>
0805: ARROW 1 with TANKER 11 getting ready to take on some fuel. <260.9>
0806: ARROW 1 advising he has visual with Tanker 11. TANKER 11 advising ARROW 1 that he is clear to join 2992(?) <260.9>
0808: ARROW 1 requesting top off. <260.9>
0815: TANKER 11 advising ARROW 1 that they gave him sixteen nine, ARROW 1 says he'll see them in about an hour and a half. Also said his wingman had rtb'd and would join them later.
0818: ARROW 1 talking to HUNTRESS "monitor 347 1100 track northeast"
0820: ARROW 1 describing light and wispy coulds saying that sometimes he can see the ground. It sometimes sounds like he is calling himself ARROW 1 and then ARROW 11. I'm going to stick with ARROW 1.
0823: ARROW 1 says something about a TOI and then says "paints"(?) Transmissions starting to get fuzzy.
0831: ARROW 1 called HUNTRESS and asked about static on what sounded like guard dog 3 something something and then clearly said ARROW 11.
0834: ARROW 1 or 11 (whoever he is) talking about a track number and then fades completely out. All above on 260.9
0914: ARROW 11 coming back into hearing range. <260.9>
0923: TANKER 11 calling ARROW 11/12 (so it must be ARROW 11) wondering what time they want to refuel. Could not make out reply, but according to ARROW 11's earlier comment at 0815, they should be ready around 0945.<260.9>
0927: ARROW 12 is nose cold and said something about 2992. TANKER 11 said they were beginning left turn. <260.9>

anybody fill me in on two niner niner two?

0930: Have TANKER 11 boom operator and ARROW 12 in conversation. TANKER 11 says he is from Eglin... ARROW 12 cleared for contact, says ARROW 11 will be back when he gets done. <260.9>
0937: ARROW 12 telling HUNTRESS he is back in the CAP after acknowledging he took on 17 6 from TANKER 11. ARROW 11 lets him know they are going counterclockwise.
1015: Sounds like ARROW 11 getting ready to fuel, he is 8 miles out and closing.
1024: ARROW 11 took 14 4 and said he'll probably need another 5 before RTB.
1100 or so: TANKER 11 getting ready to go when TANKER 12 arrives. More chatter on 260.9

gotta go....

 

[ka3jjz]

Still getting the ARROW flight OK here on <260.9>; earlier had TANKER 11 on FSS <255.4>, then moved to GUARD DOG <135.525>. Looks like a single ship so far 73s Mike

 

[cipher66]

anybody fill me in on two niner niner two?

Probably the altimeter setting, just to make sure that the receiver and tanker are on the same setting.

That's my guess....

 

[russ29643]

Probably the altimeter setting, just to make sure that the receiver and tanker are on the same setting.

That's my guess....

Thanks, I get to do this sporadically and oftentimes hear stuff that I don't understand, but I enjoy it anyway...

 

[ka3jjz]

I had a note from Jody in Georgia who heard the Arrow flights coming north; she says that, assuming these are Eglin pilots, they've used <259.55> in the past for a/a

When I left this morning, there was an Arrow 12; according to Jody he had to RTB due to an engine failure. 73s Mike

 

[russ29643]

1439: very broken, something about ROMEO 310. A female responded but she was nearly unreadable <141.55>
1444: TANKER 12 asking if the ARROW flight would like to come up and top off because they are getting close to their flight time. Sounded like ARROW 13 responding and saying something about bullseye, but very weak and nearly unreadable. <260.9>
1448: ARROW 14 on frequency. <260.9>
1450: TANKER 12 advising HUNTRESS that they have 20000lbs they can offload before bingo if the ARROW flight wants it. <260.9>
1451: ARROW 14 weapons safe...sounds like he is taking the offer. <260.9>
1453: ARROW 14 "talley tanker"(?) about 9 miles out <260.9>
1459: MUSSEL 01 cleared to land <118.4>
1500: ARROW 14 cleared the tanker, descending to 200 <260.9>
1504: TANKER 13 leveling at 350 as fragged <260.9> just before that I heard a piece of a transmission on 3**.** (have it labeled as guard dog) that mentioned TANKER 13. I missed the complete frequency due to having set 260.9 as my priority and it switched over before I caught the rest of it.
1507: TANKER 13 reports to HUNTRESS that they are in the area. <260.9>
1509: ARROW 13 confirming weapons safe, TANKER 13 clears for contact. <260.9>
1510: ARROW 13 confirming serial #820013 and contact/offload. TANKER 12 requesting rtb. 260.9
1514: ARROW 14 down to 210. 260.9

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