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Omega-TI

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I use an adblocker on all my computers and my phone, along with a VPN, but I still subscribed, because $2.50 month is CHEAP, I spend more than that one a single cup of coffee that I flush away an hour later.

Interesting that I was not allowed to sign in with my Android phone on my lunch break today, apparently I have to accept cookies to sign in, soooo I'll just be an anonymous lurker on my lunch breaks.
 

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Wow. 17 pages of this drivel over pop up and ad blocker. To what end? Here's the deal form the non paying subs. We are going to run ad blocker as we always have. With the number of people on here that may NOT have known that ad blocker was a thing. Thus thread has now shown them the way and the ones that were not running it may start. You can nudge us to not. You can ask us to not. But you can't stop us from accessing your content unless you block anyone running ad blocker or make this a pay only site. You may think there other options. But thats about it in the end. And you r problem is that unless you oull the plug a dumb decision on this that drives away enough people that you stop being profitable will run you in the poor house before you can get your contracts canceled with your providers. And no doubt someone WILL fill the void if you are no longer doing it. And the sad thing is they will most likely use your web code to do it.
You didn't give this very much thought, did you?

First, nobody wants to block anyone. The ads are where the money is. Second, there are over 1.5 million subscribers. Do you honestly think there will be a mass exodus to lessen that number. There are too many people, too many important subjects and too much really good information for very many subscribers to walk away without regretting it. I can see most of them suffering from the forum equivalent of "buyer's" remorse" and returning using a different username.
 

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We're going to start implementing gatekeeping for those that have adblockers installed and who are not premium subscribers. It will be a gentle reminder a few times a day for non-premium subscribers who have ad blockers enabled.

You can use this thread to complain to me that this is a violation of your rights, and you'll be quiting RadioReference, and you'll be reporting us to the BBB. Flame away...

When I log in at work, I don't have a choice in the ad blocker. I'm sure that I'm not the only one logging in from work, where we don't have any say as to what the settings on these computers are. Most of these computers (at my work) block anything YouTube, all of them block ads and most cookies. Even at home, I pay NO attention to the ads, I scroll right on by.
 

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KK4JUG said:
The ads are where the money is
Really! I have never been tempted to buy anything from any of the ads that I have seen - therefore the seller is not going to make any money from me. It wouldn't be so bad if the ads were radio related and available in New Zealand but I'm not going to buy beds or jewellery or kitchen gadgets that would cost a fortune to ship to me. I can't/don't use the downloadable frequency lists that a premium subscriber can get - I can get them adequately from local enthusiasts. I'm afraid it's going to be thanks - but no thanks.
 

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If they didn't work, I don't think the ads for everything from Chryslers to condoms to coax wouldn't be so prolific.
 

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Start paying out to have the ad blockers turned off.

Why can't it work both ways?😜
 

K7MFC

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Just remember: you are the product, not the thing in the ad. That's why they work.

Yup, the user clicking through an ad and buying whatever product is only part of the value to the advertisers. Tracking and analyzing users' behaviors is also VERY valuable. If you use a P.O. box on your FCC application to obscure your personal information, blocking content that can potentially track your identity is not a big stretch.
 

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Just remember some people do have to use the PO Box on the FCC application.

So…. the people in the whole town is obscuring because the U.S post office doesn’t offer home mail delivery to the homes. The only option to get mail is using the P.O Box at the post office. The Post Office could also jack up the prices for the box and the town people can’t do anything about it if they want to get mail.
Plus have the option to pay for a private company to pick up the mail from the post office box and drop it off at the customer homes. If the town people don’t want to drive to pick up the mail.
 
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Wow. 17 pages of this drivel over pop up and ad blocker. To what end? Here's the deal form the non paying subs. We are going to run ad blocker as we always have. With the number of people on here that may NOT have known that ad blocker was a thing. Thus thread has now shown them the way and the ones that were not running it may start. You can nudge us to not. You can ask us to not. But you can't stop us from accessing your content unless you block anyone running ad blocker or make this a pay only site. You may think there other options. But thats about it in the end. And you r problem is that unless you oull the plug a dumb decision on this that drives away enough people that you stop being profitable will run you in the poor house before you can get your contracts canceled with your providers. And no doubt someone WILL fill the void if you are no longer doing it. And the sad thing is they will most likely use your web code to do it.
Recovered ad revenue is up about 6%.

Premium Subscription revenue is up about 10% month over month.

We know what we are doing bud. Thanks for the feedback though.
 

ohiodesperado

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Well then, it's not a bad decision. I types that on my phone and never proofed it. Sounds like ramblings of a mad man. The point is that IF you drive folks off, it's a bad decision. If folks pay up and go with a full membership, it's a good decision. But there are many that are gonna just continue to run ad blocker and deal with the reminders. Never meant to imply you didn't know what you were doing.
 

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He was pretty clear. There are places that do NOT have to the door mail delivery. It's not that uncommon. You have to have a PO Box and pick up your mail from the PO BOX. He didn't say that that there were houses without addresses. Which also does exist. Many commercial tower sites are referenced by coordinates and that's it.
 

K7MFC

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He was pretty clear. There are places that do NOT have to the door mail delivery. It's not that uncommon.

Yeah, I get that. I was wondering how that is relevant to my comment about the parallel between using a P.O. box for FCC license information to obscure personally identifiable information and using an ad blocker to obscure personally identifiable information.. Also the grammar was atrocious and before the edit, the comment was the single line I quoted above.
 

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Huh, what? " I am also intimately aware of what ads and services we deliver to our customers". So he's for promoting blocking ads, but doesn't want you to actually block ads. Massive confusion. The dollar will always be better than the customer.
 

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The dollar will always be better than the customer.
Nothing wrong with that! Capitalism or 'motivated self-interest' is what brings things to us hobbyists and the masses. Very few people will spend obscene amounts of money and go into personal debt out of the goodness of their hearts, just to be leeched off of and belittled for doing people a favor/service. TANSTAAFL!
 
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