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[marcotor]

***MODERATOR(S), PLEASE DELETE MY ACCOUNT...***

Well... bye

 

[fxdscon]

Sound like basically an experience you might be having?

Well, that’s not the kind of “VALUE“ I’m willing to pay for!

Your post reflects what is very much generic to most all internet forums and blogs ever in existence, (even going back to the days of the dial-up bulletin boards) and contains nothing at all specific to Radio Reference.

And a lot of those other forums are far, far worse than anything Radio Reference ever thought of being... thanks to the dedicated moderators that keep on top of the many challenges involved with running a forum of this size. Other forums also charge a lot more than $30 per year, and are infinitely worse with their advertising bombardment, flame wars etc.... not to mention their relentless spam content.

Ever try to do a meaningful search on a forum that gets hundreds of spam posts every day? Ever see any spam here on Radio Reference? Thanks to the moderators, it's a very, very rare occurrence, if at all.

The membership fee here is an extremely good value from all aspects.

The rest of us have thick skins, big boy pants, and an "ignore" button at our disposal, and so do you.... very useful anywhere you go online.

 

[Mikejo]

The experience I just relayed it to you in my previous post is “EXACTLY my experience here on radio reference“!

 

[fxdscon]

The experience I just relayed it to you in my previous post is “EXACTLY my experience here on radio reference“!

I'm sure you feel that way, but as noted by me and others, your experience is not at all specific to Radio Reference, far from it.

 

[Mikejo]

Oh and that being the case on internet boards elsewhere since the beginning of the Internet… True… and I never actually paid for any of those type of experiences there either, and will never pay for it.

if in fact, I do find a website or Internet chat board where I actually find civil discourse, honest and fair treatment of those frequenting the site, perhaps I will pay, but not here!

However, the main issue here, is security! Trackers and the such; and don’t spin me the argument that your information is out on the Internet elsewhere anyways… Just throw up your hands and give up, “Resistance is futile“….. Well no……,NEVER!

 

[KevinC]

You pretty much summed up every internet forum I've ever been to. And summed it up very accurately.

You only left out the part where someone gets their feelings hurt and wants their account erased.

Couple more from a moderators perspective...

You get posts reports of the bickering so you end up deleting a bunch of posts, Then you get the "My 1st amendment rights are being violated" and they threaten to sue RR (for what I'm not really sure). Then the ones that do actually deactivate their accounts are back a few days later with a new account and have a post of "Hi guys, newbie here...).

 

[Mikejo]

Yes it is specific to radio reference in this particular instance! As it can be the case on other websites, we are talking about radio reference specifically here and that is a specific instance in relation to radio reference!

 

[fxdscon]

Oh and that being the case on internet boards elsewhere since the beginning of the Internet… True… and I never actually paid for any of those type of experiences there either, and will never pay for it.

if in fact, I do find a website or Internet chat board where I actually find civil discourse, honest and fair treatment of those frequenting the site, perhaps I will pay, but not here!

However, the main issue here, is security! Trackers and the such; and don’t spin me the argument that your information is out on the Internet elsewhere anyways… Just throw up your hands and give up, “Resistance is futile“….. Well no……,NEVER!

So answer me this, why are you still a member here? Paid or otherwise, it doesn't seem like there is anything here that's worthy of your time.

 

[Mikejo]

Well, OK I guess that’s enough for now I’ve said my piece and until “Dawn shines on marble heads“ it’ll be that way on this one website for sure… But still, not gonna pay for it!

Why am I still here!… Fighting the good fight!

OK, bye-bye for now I’ll be back just to let off steam probably but I’ll be back!

 

[Trucker700]

Well, after reading all this and knowing how often I use this website, I decided to upgrade to Premium. I have done that on a couple of other websites I use often.
I am not interested in how much money a website owner makes. I am interested in how much value I place on the content of the website.
I also use an Ad Blocker. Mainly because, some ads, especially those that are generated by Google, frequently are not in keeping with the content of the website I am looking at.
But, I don't mind paying $30 a year for content I will use more often than not.
James
AKA:Trucker

 

[AK9R]

You only left out the part where someone gets their feelings hurt and wants their account erased.

Oh, we get those. Some folks don't seem to understand that once their words are on the Internet, there's no erasing them.

 

[ProScan]

To the non-premium subscribers - just the ones complaining here,

So what if you see ads. TV shows with commercials are the same. The content, servers, bandwidth, labor, etc. all has to be funded.
Some of you may have 10 or more scanners & radios, and a humongous antenna farm but think web servers, services, software, and anything else intangible should be free.

As far as the privacy issue. Is it really an issue? I think it's more of a buzzword than an issue. Just don't click on the ad so your IP is not logged by the 3rd party. Google will show you ads they think you may be interested in, based on your previous shopping searches.

 

[needairtime]

Also I do not use an ad blocker. I use a tracking blocker that gets called an ad blocker.
Also need to keep in mind:
- Whether you click on the ad or not you get tracked.
- TV ads do not track you.

 

[Outerdog]

To the non-premium subscribers - just the ones complaining here,

Guess you've left out those who have been a subscriber in the past, but are not currently.

So what if you see ads. TV shows with commercials are the same.

DVR. No ads. OTA television does not track you.

As far as the privacy issue. Is it really an issue? I think it's more of a buzzword than an issue. Just don't click on the ad so your IP is not logged by the 3rd party. Google will show you ads they think you may be interested in, based on your previous shopping searches.

Yes. It's not a buzzword. If you don't value your privacy or network security then that's on you. But that doesn't mean those threats are not real. Your comment is naive, ignorant, or both. Educate yourself.

What Is Malvertising | Examples, Differences from Ad Malware | Imperva

Malvertising is an attack where malicious code is delivered via legitimate ads. Find out how publishers and users can protect themselves.

www.imperva.com

Malvertising

Malvertising, or malicious advertising, is the use of online, malicious advertisements to spread malware and compromise systems.

www.cisecurity.org

What are the biggest tracker networks and what can I do about them?

When you visit a website, you are of course observable by the site itself, but you are also observable by third-party trackers that the site embeds in its code. You might be surprised to learn that the vast majority of websites include many of these third-party trackers. Websites include them

spreadprivacy.com

 

[WB6WQF]

Bypass the annoying message

 

[ProScan]

Guess you've left out those who have been a subscriber in the past, but are not currently.


DVR. No ads. OTA television does not track you.



Yes. It's not a buzzword. If you don't value your privacy or network security then that's on you. But that doesn't mean those threats are not real. Your comment is naive, ignorant, or both. Educate yourself.

What Is Malvertising | Examples, Differences from Ad Malware | Imperva

Malvertising is an attack where malicious code is delivered via legitimate ads. Find out how publishers and users can protect themselves.

www.imperva.com

Malvertising

Malvertising, or malicious advertising, is the use of online, malicious advertisements to spread malware and compromise systems.

www.cisecurity.org

What are the biggest tracker networks and what can I do about them?

When you visit a website, you are of course observable by the site itself, but you are also observable by third-party trackers that the site embeds in its code. You might be surprised to learn that the vast majority of websites include many of these third-party trackers. Websites include them

spreadprivacy.com

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None of those sites you posted talks about 'privacy'. Tracking: yes. If you don't want to be tracked then search for 'prevent browser tracking'.

{edit} Also 'tracking' is just that you visited this site. That's all. There's no way to track where you came from or where you're going next. The HTTP protocol and 'cookies' doesn't allow that.

 

[fxdscon]

Yes. It's not a buzzword. If you don't value your privacy or network security then that's on you. But that doesn't mean those threats are not real. Your comment is naive, ignorant, or both. Educate yourself.

If you get paranoid and feel like hiding in the closet everytime an ad pops up on your screen, that's on you.

 

[K7MFC]

As far as the privacy issue. Is it really an issue? I think it's more of a buzzword than an issue.

Is allowing a 3rd party to execute arbitrary JavaScript in your browser a security risk? Yes, it is. Advertisements are a very common attack vector. A website can do everything right and still have the potential to expose their users to a security vulnerability. Ads are much more than a static image taking up screen real estate.

 

[Outerdog]

If you get paranoid and feel like hiding in the closet everytime an ad pops up on your screen, that's on you.

Don't be stupid.

 

[Outerdog]

None of those sites you posted talks about 'privacy'. Tracking: yes. If you don't want to be tracked then search for 'prevent browser tracking'.

So you believe tracking is free form privacy concerns? And you go ahead and ignore the malware risk?