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I have downloaded the Morris County frequencies using ARC300 onto a GRE PSR300. The frequencies and talk groups are there but I'm not picking up any voice communications. I also downloaded the State Police into another bank just to check and it works fine. Any suggestions?
 

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I have downloaded the Morris County frequencies using ARC300 onto a GRE PSR300. The frequencies and talk groups are there but I'm not picking up any voice communications. I also downloaded the State Police into another bank just to check and it works fine. Any suggestions?

Did you enter the custom frequency tables.
 

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Your 300 is incapable of receiving digital transmissions. As the GRE handhelds go, you need a 500 or 800 to hear Morris County.
 

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Updated EMS talkgroup users:

This is what I've been hearing over the last few days. If anyone has a confirmed layout, please post.

EMS 1 - Mendham Boro, Mendham Twp, Randolph, Chester, Boonton-Kiwanis, Rockaway Boro, Chatham
EMS 2 - Roxbury, Wharton, Mine Hill, Mt. Arlington, Netcong
EMS 3 - Minutemen, Morristown, New Vernon

Also, it seems that some of the Fire Depts still have not switched or are not switching. Can anyone confirm? I put in parentheses what talkgroup I'm hearing them on currently:

FIRE 1 - Chester, Brookside, Ralston, Mendham Boro, Randolph
FIRE 2 - Boonton Twp (1). Mountain Lakes (1), Rockaway Boro, Wharton, Mine Hill
FIRE 3 - Roxbury, Netcong, Mt. Arlington
FIRE 4 - Morristown, Morris Twp, Morris Plains, Chatham Boro (2), Chatham Twp (2), New Vernon (1), Green Village (2)

POLICE remains unchanged.
 

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a general question

When programming in the MIRS system. Should I program in the alternate control channels or just the primary ones?
 

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Right now they are only using one control channel for the simulcast zones. So I think you would be fine doing that.
 

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Unles that channel fails in the zone, then it rolls over to the next channel.

Better thing would be if you are in a fixed location, just program all channels in that zone.
 

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Thanks for the replies on the frequencies guys.

One other note has anyone noticed that Morristown fire on Mun 4 doesn't always come over on Mun 4. I can't hear them all the time on it but I always pick up Morris Township on my pro-106. But on my analog scanner I hear the counties rebroadcast with their audio.
 

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Thanks for the replies on the frequencies guys.

One other note has anyone noticed that Morristown fire on Mun 4 doesn't always come over on Mun 4. I can't hear them all the time on it but I always pick up Morris Township on my pro-106. But on my analog scanner I hear the counties rebroadcast with their audio.

It depends on where you are. Propagation in digital modes isn't like analog. I am in caldwell and I experience the same thing with all talk groups. The nearest towers to me are Boonton and Morristown.
 

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I just put the Morris County TRS system into my RS Pro-106 scanner last night. I'm receiving everything according to the database (the towns I want to hear), but what seems to be missing is the fire and ems dispatch. I'm used to a 6:30 test for fire/ems and it didn't happen. Then today I heard the dispatcher tell the local PD he was dispatching EMS in town and I did not hear the dispatch but then I heard the EMS come on and say they were headed to the location.

Any idea why I'm not hearing the dispatches? I did hear one of the Morristown dispatches, but nothing from Muni Fire 1 or EMS 1 which are the towns I listen to (Mendham Twp & Boro). I have a lot of the TG's locked out and went back looking for something labeled "dispatch" or "alert" but didn't find anything.

Any ideas?

Roveer.
 

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Paging for fire/ems is on 476.2875 MHz conventional channel, not on the trunked system.

Remember, if you scan both trunked and conventional channels, you can miss parts of conversations.
 

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Paging for fire/ems is on 476.2875 MHz conventional channel, not on the trunked system.

Remember, if you scan both trunked and conventional channels, you can miss parts of conversations.

Help me understand the second sentence. Is this a shortcoming of the scanner? Anything I can do about this? Anything I can do programming wise to make it better? Currently don't have any conventionals programmed but I have to put that one on. Did they stick with analog becase of all the pager/plectrons still in use? Seems like a shortcoming, but I guess if it's for financial reasons I understand.
 
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First, there are no pagers that are P25 capable, so analog it is. First responders still want to hear the voice message.

Next, when the scanner or two way radio is in scan mode it will look for the control channel for the trunked system. Once it finds the control channel it will start decoding the data stream. It then gets the data directing it to a specific frequency to unmute and hear a talkgroup that is in the scan list. The delay in acquiring the control channel can cause you to miss the beginning of a message.

Next, when leaving the trunked system and scanning the control channel there is a delay before it will unmute on the paging channel. You may miss the beginning of the transmission on the paging channel.

Just a fact of life when scanning between different trunked systems and conventional.
 
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