New Uniden SDS100 Handheld

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FYI if anyone is interested, there is a posting at the ScanRiverside scanning discussion forum regarding the Uniden SDS100. It's basically a concise compilation of everything that has been posted thus far here at RR regarding the SDS100. It includes the photos/graphics, the scanner description and links to the original and google cache pages and the SDS100 Yahoo Group: Uniden to Release New Scanner in 2018 - Uniden SDS-100 Handheld with integrated SDR feature - ScanRiverside.com

Funny how the same exact stuff is posted in multiple places by the same people (and we're starting to see the same things posted multiple times now).

when new products are available, the sales of old products stop. So, Uniden was smart by not announcing the "new" product... right now.

This will be true but I suspect two things would continue to make at least the x36 series attractive to buyers:

  • "paid" NXDN capability released for the x36 about the same time as the release of this new repackaged x36...

  • the price of this new radio (assuming it is a "thing") will keep people from buying it -- pretty much the same thing that drives people to buy the lower cost, repackaged 396/996 P2 models....

I like new scanners and sometimes buy them regardless. However, I really don't need any new radios - even if it were to solve the simulcast issue at this point (which I believe is THE issue that must be addressed) - I now have a G5 that does just fine (hell -- excellent) for my simulcast needs. In other words, I'm usually getting out my credit card and paying to be on the wait list for the release -- but that isn't going to happen this time... for lots of reasons.

Assuming this is "real", it would be my guess that Uniden "leaked it" out there to have everyone who wants a solution for their simulcast nightmare and is about to make that leap to purchase a Unication G4 or G5 to think twice and wait instead. However, if this "thing" solves the simulcast issue, you'd think that would be printed in large bold lettering in the "leaked" post - but it ain't. To me, that says more than anything.....

I guess we'll see....
 
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That's my thought. Everyone is repeating the same rumors, based on a short lived web page at Universal Radio. No one who is posting really knows if this product is going to be released, when, what features it might have when it hits production, or much of anything else.

Until Uniden releases the information, this is all just baseless speculation.

Funny how the same exact stuff is posted in multiple places by the same people (and we're starting to see the same things posted multiple times now).
 

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...what features it might have when it hits production...

It's interesting to note that the text in the Universal Radio "leaked" post only mentions features that the 436 included when it first hit the market, i.e. no mention of DMR and ProVoice. The only enhancements mentioned were battery options, soft keys, rugged case, and SDR.

That would make me think that, should this thing be legit, all those protocols will be optional as they are currently for the 436. Speculation, of course, but quite telling.



Some tidbits to fuel more speculation/ranting/raving/conspiracies: Anyone notice in the graphic of this device, top line of the display, CON+ and 2/28? ::cue cheesy dramatic music::
 

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Anyone notice in the graphic of this device, top line of the display, CON+ and 2/28? ::cue cheesy dramatic music::

I would speculate that 2/28 refers to February 28 as it's right beside 12:33P. As in, this is just showing the date and time. But don't let that stop anybody from theorizing that we should watch Uniden for something six Wednesdays from now. ;)

Let's remember that this is clearly a render/mock-up, but if you want to speculate on the screen, talk about more than just the Connect Plus indicator:

  • In the upper right of the top line, the battery (one presumes) is indicated in a percentage.
  • On the red lines: System name (Fort Worth Regional Radio System), then the site name (Fort Worth Layer 1), then the system type/flavor (P25 Phase 2) and control channel frequency (857.4375). I seem to recall some folks lamenting some of these items being absent from the x36 screens.
  • In the green section (ostensibly the 'Department' section), after the department (group) name, note that it says "4.227 miles 083°'. I would speculate that this points towards the department/group's lat/long location in the scanner DB. Decide what you want about where the scanner is getting its own position from in order to tell you where the department location is in comparison to you.
  • In the blue section, you see the talkgroup name, service tag/type, numerical talkgroup ID, and radio ID. Below that, in purple, you see "RSSI:83" and "Range: 5 mi." The RSSI (Received Signal Strength Indicator) is again something people have been clamoring for (though it remains to be told what this is measured in, i.e. percent, dB, or some arbitrary number). The "Range" I can only guess is again based on the location of the talkgroup in the RRDB/Uniden DB, as opposed to being some kind of RDF voodoo magic.
  • Finally, you see the close call logo, PRI, WX, Stealth, V12, and S04. Everything on that line should be obvious except 'Stealth'. Perhaps that means it doesn't make alert sounds or light up when this is enabled?

There are a couple of other things I'd like to observe, more from the writeup provided on the Universal Radio page.

Lithium Ion battery included, alkaline battery cradle provided. I take this to mean a Li-Ion battery cartridge, with a similar-sized cartridge that can carry AA batteries. I just hope that this doesn't have tiny wires and Molex connectors like the old 250/296 radios did. :) I believe the Li-Ion batteries would make people happy as well.

Lastly, rugged and meets JIS4 weather-resistance standards. This simply means: "Splashing water from any direction shall have no harmful effect". In other words, sounds to me like it's not much different from any other scanner I've had in modern times. All those who want titanium cases and (to borrow a line from Tesla) nuclear apocalypse proof glass, not everyone wants to pay $3000 for a scanner. My 436 does indeed have some of the text worn off the buttons and no longer has the rubber flap that used to cover the USB/GPS ports, but the housing is intact. It's been a long time since I've had a scanner whose body has been damaged, and I use mine daily in all kinds of situations.

Anyway, if this is a hoax, I've just wasted a half-hour on analyzing this mockup. If it's not, it looks like Uniden has been listening to all the complaints and comments over the years. Patience has its rewards.

Lastly, this might be a futile ask, but can we keep the thread focused on talking about this supposed new radio, be it guesses, news, or rampant speculation, and leave out the idiots sniping at one another about who is more awesome/who does or doesn't understand what the other is saying, as well as the complaints about 'promised features missing' from other radios, and griping about whether or not to pay for features or whether or not a competitor's radio does it better?
 

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Lastly, this might be a futile ask, but can we keep the thread focused on talking about this supposed new radio, be it guesses, news, or rampant speculation, and leave out the idiots sniping at one another about who is more awesome/who does or doesn't understand what the other is saying, as well as the complaints about 'promised features missing' from other radios, and griping about whether or not to pay for features or whether or not a competitor's radio does it better?

We can only hope but I highly doubt that will happen. We shall see and thanks for your analysis quite a good read.
 

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I don't know if I'd go as far as saying "Uniden has been listening to all the complaints and comments over the years" - at least not yet.

There are lots of us (getting older folks) who would like the option to control/display LESS on the screen but in larger fonts -- It could well be part of the "thing" that might be (just like a simulcast solution might be) but none of us will know until the official release comes... if it's real.
 

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I would speculate that 2/28 refers to February 28 as it's right beside 12:33P. As in, this is just showing the date and time. But don't let that stop anybody from theorizing that we should watch Uniden for something six Wednesdays from now. ;)

Let's remember that this is clearly a render/mock-up, but if you want to speculate on the screen, talk about more than just the Connect Plus indicator:

  • In the upper right of the top line, the battery (one presumes) is indicated in a percentage.
  • On the red lines: System name (Fort Worth Regional Radio System), then the site name (Fort Worth Layer 1), then the system type/flavor (P25 Phase 2) and control channel frequency (857.4375). I seem to recall some folks lamenting some of these items being absent from the x36 screens.
  • In the green section (ostensibly the 'Department' section), after the department (group) name, note that it says "4.227 miles 083°'. I would speculate that this points towards the department/group's lat/long location in the scanner DB. Decide what you want about where the scanner is getting its own position from in order to tell you where the department location is in comparison to you.
  • In the blue section, you see the talkgroup name, service tag/type, numerical talkgroup ID, and radio ID. Below that, in purple, you see "RSSI:83" and "Range: 5 mi." The RSSI (Received Signal Strength Indicator) is again something people have been clamoring for (though it remains to be told what this is measured in, i.e. percent, dB, or some arbitrary number). The "Range" I can only guess is again based on the location of the talkgroup in the RRDB/Uniden DB, as opposed to being some kind of RDF voodoo magic.
  • Finally, you see the close call logo, PRI, WX, Stealth, V12, and S04. Everything on that line should be obvious except 'Stealth'. Perhaps that means it doesn't make alert sounds or light up when this is enabled?

There are a couple of other things I'd like to observe, more from the writeup provided on the Universal Radio page.

Lithium Ion battery included, alkaline battery cradle provided. I take this to mean a Li-Ion battery cartridge, with a similar-sized cartridge that can carry AA batteries. I just hope that this doesn't have tiny wires and Molex connectors like the old 250/296 radios did. :) I believe the Li-Ion batteries would make people happy as well.

Lastly, rugged and meets JIS4 weather-resistance standards. This simply means: "Splashing water from any direction shall have no harmful effect". In other words, sounds to me like it's not much different from any other scanner I've had in modern times. All those who want titanium cases and (to borrow a line from Tesla) nuclear apocalypse proof glass, not everyone wants to pay $3000 for a scanner. My 436 does indeed have some of the text worn off the buttons and no longer has the rubber flap that used to cover the USB/GPS ports, but the housing is intact. It's been a long time since I've had a scanner whose body has been damaged, and I use mine daily in all kinds of situations.

Anyway, if this is a hoax, I've just wasted a half-hour on analyzing this mockup. If it's not, it looks like Uniden has been listening to all the complaints and comments over the years. Patience has its rewards.

Lastly, this might be a futile ask, but can we keep the thread focused on talking about this supposed new radio, be it guesses, news, or rampant speculation, and leave out the idiots sniping at one another about who is more awesome/who does or doesn't understand what the other is saying, as well as the complaints about 'promised features missing' from other radios, and griping about whether or not to pay for features or whether or not a competitor's radio does it better?
Fantastic analysis

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Uniden SDS100 - Visually unappealing

I was never a fan of the size of the 436HP, at least it better looking than the SDS100 . I know it's only one unconfirmed picture but the SDS100 is ugly.

First off the size looks to be top heavy and unbalanced. Clay color case reminds me of those inventory business hand scanners of the 90's. Once you go black you never go back .
Nice use of color screen but overkill to compensate for cluttered screen with small fonts. And the same all in one squelch, volume, VFO selector that been used for the past 13 years .

One thing you won't have to worry about is anyone breaking in your car to steal it.
 

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I was never a fan of the size of the 436HP, at least it better looking than the SDS100 . I know it's only one unconfirmed picture but the SDS100 is ugly.

There is no such thing as an SDS100!!
 

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There is no such thing as an SDS100!!

You've got terrible situational awareness. Read the thread you're in.

The info here might be unconfirmed, but hysterically hollering that there is no such thing doesn't do anything useful. Let people speculate if they want to. What does it harm you if they talk about it?

If you don't want to participate, hit Alt+F4.
 

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Regarding the shape of the radio: There is an FCC submission (via Uniden) and a couple of links for a very similar-looking device called the West Marine VHF470G. It is a GPS equipped handheld marine two-way radio.

Take from that what you may - either Uniden is using the same form factor for a scanner, or people are being trolled with an elaborate mockup.
 
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You've got terrible situational awareness. Read the thread you're in.

The info here might be unconfirmed, but hysterically hollering that there is no such thing doesn't do anything useful. Let people speculate if they want to. What does it harm you if they talk about it?

If you don't want to participate, hit Alt+F4.

Gimme a break. If I was "hysterically hollering," I would have used caps. Second, if I didn't want to participate, I wouldn't be here. Third, switch to decaf.
 

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What is this a court of law?. Let me consult with my attorney before I answer your question.

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All I mean is you guys are all getting people's hopes up. It's gonna have this and it's gotta have that. It's not even real yet, theoretical yes, real no. People reading this thread are getting there hopes up for things that when the real scanner is released will probably have to be paid for to a activate on top of the cost of the radio which at first glance doesn't look cheap. All I want is people to realize that we know nothing about it yet not even that it's actually called the SDS100. What we do know is uniden is kind of due for the next generation of its line of scanners but who knows when they will be released and what they will be capable of. Just take it back a notch and just wait for the information to be released, speculation almost always leads to disappointment as we build it into something bigger than it actually will be in our minds. Everyone wants something different let's just see what they offer before we go crazy here. Common sense man that's all.

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