Ventura County moving to 7/800 Phase I P25 trunking system by 2020

[kearthfan101]

Seems to be 8am every morning so far. I haven't been listening for too long.

Heard the roll call just now, audio sounded great. Did you happen to record it? I wasn't able to hear who was called between Ventura PD and Hueneme PD.

 

[kj6psg]

Heard the roll call just now, audio sounded great. Did you happen to record it? I wasn't able to hear who was called between Ventura PD and Hueneme PD.

I only have a single SDR for receiving the voice channels (the other is parked on the control channel) and it was pointed at other systems this morning. Oxnard Police should follow Ventura Police.

 

[kearthfan101]

I only have a single SDR for receiving the voice channels (the other is parked on the control channel) and it was pointed at other systems this morning. Oxnard Police should follow Ventura Police.

New voice channels logged for site 2. I submitted the 2 you found for site 1 also.

 

[Opfor2]

Sounds like the Simi Valley Police Department has a major roll with the 7/800 P25 trunking system

 

[ChrisE_STB]

Sounds like the Simi Valley Police Department has a major roll with the 7/800 P25 trunking system

This system is being managed and built by Ventura County GSA, Simi Valley isn't a stakeholder in this project.

 

[Opfor2]

Today while on the 118 freeway I observed a new Simi Valley police explorer with the new Motorola quad band antenna (https://www.radiotwoway.com/32813-a...lGreCRFHPr8m-wlG4tEWwlRa8FDQd3awaAgYtEALw_wcB) on it's roof so I'm assuming that they are installing the Motorola APX-8500 radios getting ready for the switch to the new trunk system.

 

[allend]

This means nothing. Its a quad band antenna. It could be a switch over in time with Ventura's system or this antenna could be to continue their support of their UHF High band radio system.

Even if they are installing a new antenna or a new APX 8500 radio this radio will continue to support their current system or move over in time. By the post before you it was explained that Simi Valley is not a stakeholder in the project.

 

[Opfor2]

You are correct, this was speculation on my part however, after hearing the audio file on another post with Simi PD doing all of the radio checks with other Ventura county LE agencies I'm sure my fears are correct. And one more fear I bet they will be 100% encrypted too.

 

[allend]

Dont let it fear you. Everything is out of everybodies control anyways. The goal of all LE in Socal is to encrypt. Its just a matter of time until everybody is gone.

We see the direction of all of these new systems coming alive. Encryption is just built into the specs of the system and that's it. End of story. Just enjoy what you have each day and that's it.

Everybody has speculation over Simi Valley all the time and this city is a buzz word around here, but we all know in time it will be gone. BV went bye bye so why not the next city on the list. Its basic common sense and the trend we all see.

 

[kj6psg]

Looks like there's also an evening roll call at 8PM in addition to the morning roll call at 8AM. Today both were initiated by CSUCI, so maybe they take turns. I've got hardware receivers for the system now, but still no full-time equipment until I muster up the courage to spend the $20 on another SDR -- I'll mostly be looking for new talkgroups. Active voice channels appear to be the same, so I take it they're not adding more channels until the system starts to mature. There's a lot of overlap in radio IDs, I'll look into those later once I get more samples; twice a day doesn't leave me with a whole lot of content.

 

[kj6psg]

Unit IDs from evening roll call tonight:
10000 - Ventura County Fire
20003 - Ventura County Sheriff
20006 - Santa Paula Police
20007 - Ventura Police
20008 - Simi Valley Police
20009 - Cal State Channel Islands
20010 - California Highway Patrol

Oxnard Police and Port Hueneme Police did not respond, and Sheriff's transmission had issues (sounded like PTT got stuck with AGC amplifying microphone noise greatly).

 

[kearthfan101]

Unit IDs from evening roll call tonight:
10000 - Ventura County Fire
20003 - Ventura County Sheriff
20006 - Santa Paula Police
20007 - Ventura Police
20008 - Simi Valley Police
20009 - Cal State Channel Islands
20010 - California Highway Patrol

Oxnard Police and Port Hueneme Police did not respond, and Sheriff's transmission had issues (sounded like PTT got stuck with AGC amplifying microphone noise greatly).

20005 is Port Hueneme PD so I’d imagine 20004 is Oxnard PD but I haven’t heard them answer yet so it is not confirmed.

 

[kj6psg]

Yep, that seems to be the case.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/paymewih0vy9oso/20181211_vct-w_roll-call-morning.oga?dl=0

2018/12/11  16:01:46  Affiliation Request; Tgt=20007   Src=16777213 [SYSTEM]
2018/12/11  16:02:12  Affiliation Request; Tgt=20006   Src=16777213 [SYSTEM]
2018/12/11  16:02:19  Affiliation Request; Tgt=20005   Src=16777213 [SYSTEM]
2018/12/11  16:02:33  Affiliation Request; Tgt=20010   Src=16777213 [SYSTEM]
2018/12/11  16:02:40  Group call; TG=99  RID=20009  Ch=770.28125  18s
2018/12/11  16:03:05  Group call; TG=99  RID=20009  Ch=770.34375  3s
2018/12/11  16:03:08  Group call; TG=99  RID=20007  Ch=770.34375  3s
2018/12/11  16:03:12  Group call; TG=99  RID=20009  Ch=770.34375  3s
2018/12/11  16:03:19  Group call; TG=99  RID=20009  Ch=770.28125  3s
2018/12/11  16:03:23  Group call; TG=99  RID=20006  Ch=770.28125  2s
2018/12/11  16:03:26  Group call; TG=99  RID=20009  Ch=770.28125  3s
2018/12/11  16:03:30  Group call; TG=99  RID=20005  Ch=770.28125  2s
2018/12/11  16:03:33  Group call; TG=99  RID=20009  Ch=770.28125  3s
2018/12/11  16:03:38  Group call; TG=99  RID=20008  Ch=770.34375  2s
2018/12/11  16:03:41  Group call; TG=99  RID=20009  Ch=770.34375  3s
2018/12/11  16:03:45  Group call; TG=99  RID=20010  Ch=770.28125  3s
2018/12/11  16:03:48  Group call; TG=99  RID=20009  Ch=770.28125  3s
2018/12/11  16:03:52  Group call; TG=99  RID=10000  Ch=770.28125  3s
2018/12/11  16:03:56  Group call; TG=99  RID=20009  Ch=770.28125  8s

They're joining the system just in time to hear the beginning of the roll call!

 

[kj6psg]

Tonight, VCFD informed CSUCI (running the roll call) that Oxnard PD "does not have this frequency". That should explain their absence on the 700 MHz roll calls.

 

[uman18]

I think encryption is going to come down to the individual agency and if they want to shell out the extra cost per radio.

 

[allend]

I think encryption is going to come down to the individual agency and if they want to shell out the extra cost per radio.

There is no extra cost for encryption now with new radios. Every agency will want Encryption enabled as all LE in SoCal is moving to Encryption

 

[uman18]

There is no extra cost for encryption now with new radios. Every agency will want Encryption enabled as all LE in SoCal is moving to Encryption

I'm not an expert, but from what I've seen on purchase contracts, the cost is there for encryption vs. no encryption. I know there is MACE boards standard in APX radios, no more UCM's, but the option still has to be added. I'm sure a motorola dealer can chime in on this.

 

[ChrisE_STB]

You are correct, encryption, is a add on item. It is not standard in the radio and/or "free" Motorola doesn't give things away for free.

Remember, this system is being built and managed by the County of Ventura General Services Agency, not VCFD or VCSO on its own. The smaller Police departments have the option to join this system, but are not required to at all. There have been rumors that Oxnard PD has looked into their own P25 conventional system similar to Port Hueneme. We are still many years away before we see any public safety use this trunking system. 2020/2021 we will see public works, Water Dept, and other county services move over to it.

 

[allend]

I can pretty much guarantee that every law enforcement agency that will join this system will go encrypted. It's a no brainer at this point. I could be .00000001 percent wrong but I can pretty much say that all of these departments are on board with it. Every agency is pretty much

"follow the leader" at this point. The leader was OC over almost two decades ago and everybody else has followed suit. Just saying.

 

[ChrisE_STB]

I can pretty much guarantee that every law enforcement agency that will join this system will go encrypted. It's a no brainer at this point. I could be .00000001 percent wrong but I can pretty much say that all of these departments are on board with it. Every agency is pretty much

"follow the leader" at this point. The leader was OC over almost two decades ago and everybody else has followed suit. Just saying.

Its time to get off your encryption high horse. LAPD isnt encrypted, bulk of ICI law dispatch isnt encrypted. Those have all been implemented after OC.