CLMRN (was CSERN)

[Cheeseburgers]

Beats my rs800 hands down

 

[doctordialtone]

How do I program just location action

Read about "Location Control"

 

[trentbob]

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Now THAT looks interesting.

 

[hotbob62]

Read about "Location Control"

What about Troops A, I, L, and CT Ctransit, I haven't heard any action from them ? Does the HP-2 actually recieve those talkgroups ?
So in other words, I'll have to program all my local channels by hand via the home patrol program ?

 

[Cheeseburgers]

Now THAT looks interesting.

I swear by them since I found them, you in CT? I have an extra...

 

[trentbob]

I swear by them since I found them, you in CT? I have an extra...

Nope, I'm in the Philly area. I'm just monitoring the thread for a friend in Connecticut since you just went p2 and I'm trying to figure it out for them.

I use rooftop VHF High, UHF, 7-800 ground planes. We have pretty much all simulcast systems now. My last neighboring County just went over last week replacing their 500 megahertz type II smartzone system with a P2 tdma system.

My own County system is very strong, for that I use an apx 7000, a 100 and 2 200s... my older Uniden radios like the x36s and the others don't work so hot on simulcast distortion secondary to LSM. Whistler's don't work at all.

We have some nxdn and a great deal of conventional stuff to listen to like the Marine Band and Aviation, I'm right on the Delaware River a little north of Philly.

Thanks for the generous offer!

Quick question, I see that the Connecticut State Police is streamed but not the Far Western three troops L, A and I... the streaming is not offline. Has your entire State now gone P2 or are you in a period of transition or flux from P1 and only the three Western counties mentioned have recently gone to phase 2?

I'm particularly interested in troop L with site 031 in Lynchfield, the three talk groups 501 503 and 505. That should be dispatch, car-to-car and encrypted secure Ops Channel. The control channel should be 859.7625 and the NAC is 3A1h.

If anybody could give me some information, is that now active and how is the reception? What kind of testing did they do as far as coverage and dead spots?

Sorry that I might be going over a lot of stuff that's already been done on this very lengthy thread and I have read a lot of it. Just trying to pin this system down for my friend. Thank you very much for your help everybody.

And thank you again cheeseburgers for your generous offer... Bob.

 

[darkness975]

I got my HP-2 on Saturday. I heard no action with Troops A, L, and I, or anything else on the system. So far I'm not happy with the radio. I entered my zip code and I got systems from New York State. How do I program just location action ??

the HPII is not really suitable for tracking CLMRN. It used to track the old 800 Mhz smartzone system fine, but this new system is a no go for the most part. My HPII is remitted to tracking and recording certain analog systems within range. My SDS100 and SDS200 are what I use for CLMRN from home (except the recent issues with it not working since some weird switchover on Wednesday) and my BCD325P2 is my mobile unit that I take with me.

 

[55engine]

Just like to inform everybody as of right now DEEP is still P 25 So for the database it is wrong at this time as well as MTA police is still on the P 25 so the database is still wrong

 

[darkness975]

Just like to inform everybody as of right now DEEP is still P 25 So for the database it is wrong at this time as well as MTA police is still on the P 25 so the database is still wrong

Yeah DEEP is one of the only systems I am really hearing from home right now since this Wednesday switch to whatever.

 

[darkness975]

I switched my units to ID Scan instead of ID Search for CLMRN and the filter is set to wide invert.

Last night I heard a LITTLE more than the previous night but still nothing like what I used to.

I hope something changes soon because it's beyond frustrating.

What doesn't make sense is that my custom list worked fine from home before, but since Wednesday it's been horrendous. So whatever happened Wednesday defintely affected it.


@Cheeseburgers how does it compare to the Remtronix antenna for the SDS?

 

[pro106import]

Just like to inform everybody as of right now DEEP is still P 25 So for the database it is wrong at this time as well as MTA police is still on the P 25 so the database is still wrong

Some Talkgroups are Phase 2
DEEP Marine, DEEP State Parks East and DEEP State Parks West are all Phase 2
The West and East DEEP are still Phase 1 but thats all

 

[trentbob]

I switched my units to ID Scan instead of ID Search for CLMRN and the filter is set to wide invert.

Last night I heard a LITTLE more than the previous night but still nothing like what I used to.

I hope something changes soon because it's beyond frustrating.

What doesn't make sense is that my custom list worked fine from home before, but since Wednesday it's been horrendous. So whatever happened Wednesday defintely affected it.


@Cheeseburgers how does it compare to the Remtronix antenna for the SDS?

So time division multiple access or tdma is the mode used by phase 2 systems. It basically gives you a lot more capacity and paths to use in a radio system. It is Superior in performance and modulation.

What happened Wednesday is your area converted to phase 2.

It's going to take some adjustment and the system itself will need to be tweaked. Better antennas, filter usage, selective programming of favorites list, especially isolating the system all on one favorites list or making multiple favorites list with certain talkgroups and sites on each one will help.

Give it time, it should straighten out, this is your life now and I'm sure it'll be just fine .

This is my first time on this thread and just by the conversation I'm starting to understand what's happening here. Your system is in transition.

Just trying to get a grasp on it so as to help my friend in Connecticut.

The use of filters is good here and it might require a 1 or 2 second system hold time adjustment in system options.

Some people in fringe areas might find themselves mounting discones on broom handles with low loss coax and mounting them on tripods, hat racks or straight pole lamps. LOL.

 

[cg]

Not sure how the CT system is set up but Motorola offers an option that allows a Phase 2 group to change back to Phase 1 if a (legit) Phase 1 radio affiliates with that group. The group then goes back to Phase 2 once there are no radios requiring Phase 1 affiliated.
EnCon East and West were logged as TDMA so perhaps this option is in the system.

chris

 

[cg]

Reception is key. Phase 2 adds two slots of voice where there was one and makes it more critical to have a good signal. If you dropped a couple 1s or 0s before, there might be a bit of a hiccup in the voice. Now more data is affected by that hiccup and the call drops or doesn't even start.
I believe the vast majority of these issues are reception. The scanners I hear CLMRN well on are 1.5 miles from a tower. There are no cell sites nearby. The only computer is mine running ProScan for my feed.
The Uniden SDSx00 radios have meters, I am running 81 to 85 dbm on one site, 85-88 on a second, and 88-91 on a third (all control channels). I see better numbers on the voice channels. I was inside a house initially and the P2 reception on 996P2 was good and the SDS200 almost nonexistant. I moved the SDS into the garage, outside of the aluminum covered insulation, and the reception is now similar (good to excellent). Low E glass can also block signals so sitting a radio by a window may not help at all.

chris

 

[trentbob]

Reception is key. Phase 2 adds two slots of voice where there was one and makes it more critical to have a good signal. If you dropped a couple 1s or 0s before, there might be a bit of a hiccup in the voice. Now more data is affected by that hiccup and the call drops or doesn't even start.
I believe the vast majority of these issues are reception. The scanners I hear CLMRN well on are 1.5 miles from a tower. There are no cell sites nearby. The only computer is mine running ProScan for my feed.
The Uniden SDSx00 radios have meters, I am running 81 to 85 dbm on one site, 85-88 on a second, and 88-91 on a third (all control channels). I see better numbers on the voice channels. I was inside a house initially and the P2 reception on 996P2 was good and the SDS200 almost nonexistant. I moved the SDS into the garage, outside of the aluminum covered insulation, and the reception is now similar (good to excellent). Low E glass can also block signals so sitting a radio by a window may not help at all.

chris

Yep you're right on the money there Chris, you do need a strong signal.

My P2 system is very susceptible to simulcast distortion secondary to LSM because of the way the system is set up with 26 towers simulcasting pretty close to each other.

Other than a subscriber radio, unication pager or an SDS you are pretty well SOL especially in a mobile application moving about the towers.

It will be interesting to see how that affects this system here in Connecticut.

 

[Cheeseburgers]

I switched my units to ID Scan instead of ID Search for CLMRN and the filter is set to wide invert.

Last night I heard a LITTLE more than the previous night but still nothing like what I used to.

I hope something changes soon because it's beyond frustrating.

What doesn't make sense is that my custom list worked fine from home before, but since Wednesday it's been horrendous. So whatever happened Wednesday defintely affected it.


@Cheeseburgers how does it compare to the Remtronix antenna for the SDS?

Better, DM me your address ill send you one

 

[Cheeseburgers]

Better, DM me your address ill send you one

I was parked on H and it was rather chatty last night, L a little less. Bloomfield is busy on H I've noticed... Shouldn't have parted with the G5 I could have compared. Ah well, it appears the 325p2 w/ this antenna does quite well, the RS800 was 2/3 bars from my location, the Shure is full strength and clear audio.

 

[hotbob62]

the HPII is not really suitable for tracking CLMRN. It used to track the old 800 Mhz smartzone system fine, but this new system is a no go for the most part. My HPII is remitted to tracking and recording certain analog systems within range. My SDS100 and SDS200 are what I use for CLMRN from home (except the recent issues with it not working since some weird switchover on Wednesday) and my BCD325P2 is my mobile unit that I take with me.

Does anyone know as to why the HP-2 can't monitor the system.

 

[darkness975]

Does anyone know as to why the HP-2 can't monitor the system.

I sent you a PM

 

[awasser1]

i have an hp2 also. I dont think I'm getting all of bloomfield. sometimes i do and sometimes not. I have sds100 and sds200 going as well.