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The best way to do this is to view an existing mission plan of someone else similar to what you want so you can see all the variables.

that would be extremely helpful. If anyone out there would be willing to help I would be most grateful
 

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I'm no expert with RPM but I think you need to build up all your possible "systems" first like ham, GMRS, police, etc. I always make a system a "project 25 conventional" so I can enter analog or P25 channels. Then you have to make up your zones and add the channels from all your systems into each zone.

Then under the top level "sets" you have "conventional frequency set" which has basically the same info as your systems, or at least it does in my setup. And in all my sets under each conventional frequency set, I put everything under a "project 25 conventional" tab again.

If you are doing any trunked channels they would go under a "P25 trunked" tab under "systems" and under "sets" you would fill in a "trunked frequency set" instead of a "conventional frequency set".

Are you thoroughly confused yet?

Actually flip that around (as if it wasn't confusing enough). You have to create your conventional P25 frequency sets first, then create the systems that refer to them. If you create the system without having a frequency set to point it to, the software will cry foul and not let you out of the system creation window without either selecting a frequency set or cancelling the whole operation.

If you plan to use P25 channels you also have to create a P25 group set for the P25 conventional system to refer to. Talkgroup 1 is the standard talkgroup for 700 MHz interop channels in the NIFOG, so I just create a group set called "P25CONV" with Talkgroup 1 in it, and leave it at that. Make it a Global set and I can use it for public safety radios at work, too.

1. Create frequency set(s)
2. Create P25CONV group set
3. Create system(s) to go with frequency set(s)
4. Create zone(s) where you enter the desired system and channel.

One other hint... you have to create a channel name for the software to refer to, up to 8 characters; make the channel name something unique but easy to understand. Once you have a channel name you can add a long channel name (up to 14 or 16 characters, I forget which) that actually resembles English.

And if you're not confused enough already once you've got all that done, you can get into the Options section, where there's all kinds of fun things to tinker with.

My biggest gripe about RPM is that there's no way to import lists of frequencies or talkgroups like there is with RPM2 (at least, not one that I've ever been able to find). Manually entering hundreds of radio channels is an exercise in tedium.

One other fun hint... if there are people on a particular repeater who you want to annoy, enable MDC or G-STAR on that particular channel (the SIGNALING button). The ID blip the radio sends on every transmission will drive your enemies bananas.

Another cool thing with newer firmware on the XL200 is the ability to finally hide systems and use only zones. That was one of my biggest complaints with using zones and end users finding their way to the system anyway and their channels not lining up the way they do in their zones. Huge headache. We use zones to keep everything from several trunking systems in one zone, but the users always find a way to change the radio to a system and can't turn to their normal talkgroup, because it is in another system.

I had the same issue. The only way around it was to force the radio to always start up on a particular zone and channel (I used Zone 1, Channel 1 since that's Dispatch where most users are 99.9% of the time); also don't forget to set the System Up/Down buttons to Zone Up/Down.
 

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holy cow, Harris doesn't want programming to simple do they. I'm waiting on my radio to be delivered but I have entered lots of conventional freq sets in anticipation of it's arrival. I guess I'll be referring back to this thread countless times to try and keep things straight. I'm sure I'll be back in here groveling for someone to help my un-F%$K my programming attempts soon.
 

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These radios were designed around DHS and Public Safety requirements and were never intended for HAM's.

The programming software was intended for the personnel tasked with maintaining a radio fleet and not for individual end users to program their own radios. It would be an absolute nightmare to maintain a radio system where every end user would be allowed to program their owns radios as they see fit!
 
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One other fun hint... if there are people on a particular repeater who you want to annoy, enable MDC or G-STAR on that particular channel (the SIGNALING button). The ID blip the radio sends on every transmission will drive your enemies bananas.
I like the cut of your jib haha
 

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These radios were designed around DHS and Public Safety requirements and were never intended for HAM's.

The programming software was intended for the personnel tasked with maintaining a radio fleet and not for individual end users to program their own radios. It would be an absolute nightmare to maintain a radio system where every end user would be allowed to program their owns radios as they see fit!
Understood but the professional personnel don't deserve clunky software that's a pain to use either. I mean we're talking about simple cut and paste for crying out loud.
 

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I like the cut of your jib haha

I speak from experience....

Understood but the professional personnel don't deserve clunky software that's a pain to use either. I mean we're talking about simple cut and paste for crying out loud.

Thank you. Can't begin to tell you how many hours I've spent at work dozing off while entering seemingly endless lists of frequencies and talkgroups. The trunking frequency set was the worst; over 200 frequencies. At least group sets are usually shorter. Even Moneyrola Astro and Astro25 software can do cut and paste as long as you know how to do it.

Programming my XG100P with ham frequencies was similar; over 150 frequencies from across the state, and that was just the ARES and WX net frequencies. I thought about simply entering all the 2m and 440 frequencies in a list and setting up user-selectable PL, but that would have been way more than 150 frequencies, and meant I'd have to keep a list handy of what frequency/PL is in which county. No thanks; I just want to be able to select up the Skywarn frequency for Cleveland if I'm there and be done with it.
 
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Understood but the professional personnel don't deserve clunky software that's a pain to use either. I mean we're talking about simple cut and paste for crying out loud.

No argument there on the cut & paste. I would like that option as well.
 

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I'm cooking with gas now on my 100M...now to bite the bullet and spend $1300 to add trunking and phase 2...View attachment 98371

Single-key AES and DES... interesting. Apparently it's available on the XG100M but not the XG100P; I was looking to add single-key AES to mine for work, but no joy.
 

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You are on the right screen. You have to change the radio button from P25 to see the the TX CG unshade.

TX CG is the TX PL/DPL and RX CG is the RX PL/DPL.

Change the voice mode to analog and the TX CG will be able to be edited. Then you just type 88.5 or a three digit number for DPL.

Also, if you select wideband for a VHF ham freq, it will be good to go, even if your radio is narrowband only. If you try wideband for UHF ham, it will write, but fail if your radio is narrowband only.
You are on the right screen. You have to change the radio button from P25 to see the the TX CG unshade.

TX CG is the TX PL/DPL and RX CG is the RX PL/DPL.

Change the voice mode to analog and the TX CG will be able to be edited. Then you just type 88.5 or a three digit number for DPL.

Also, if you select wideband for a VHF ham freq, it will be good to go, even if your radio is narrowband only. If you try wideband for UHF ham, it will write, but fail if your radio is narrowband only.
 
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Single-key AES and DES... interesting. Apparently it's available on the XG100M but not the XG100P; I was looking to add single-key AES to mine for work, but no joy.

No Single Key or ARC-4 support available to the XG-100P. No support for EDACS either,only for the XG-100M.
 
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Another question. . . I'm trying to get my XG100P to connect to my programming laptop (Toughbook CF53mk2) via bluetooth; laptop does not have bluetooth built in but I have a bluetooth USB adapter; once it's installed it comes up with two comm ports (20 and 21) which RPM recognizes. Computer and radio are successfully paired. But for whatever reason, RPM will not connect to the radio through either bluetooth com port.

Anybody had this happen before?
 

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Dumb Question but do you have Bluetooth enabled on the radio and on the feature set.
 

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FWIW I couldn't get my PC and CH100 control head to talk either, despite pairing just fine.
 

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FWIW I couldn't get my PC and CH100 control head to talk either, despite pairing just fine.

While I have access to them at work, I'm really hoping I don't have to drop $136 on the programming cable for personal use.....
 
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