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Harris XG-100P
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Might have to. Not sure if the problem is the Windows BT stack or the radio. I was trying with Win7 and no luck. I have used the same laptop and USB BT dongle to program my APX and XPR however so who knows.
So I'm really debating between an APX 6000, vs a XG-100P (for NAS). I currently use an XTS 5k which I love, but I want more scan list capacity.
For me, the biggest upside for Harris is the insane amount of TG's you can scan at once (supposedly over 1000?), vs 50 with APX, along with Tri-band capability for way cheaper than the APX 8k.
I've already acquired the *appropriate* RPM to test out, it's definitely way different than Astro25 CPS but I'm sure I could figure it out.
Regardless, does anyone else have reports on the build quality of the XG-100P? I'm thinking I might get the mobile version to avoid worrying about the apparent build quality issues of the portable.
For me, the biggest upside for Harris is the insane amount of TG's you can scan at once (supposedly over 1000?), vs 50 with APX, along with Tri-band capability for way cheaper than the APX 8k.
I've already acquired the *appropriate* RPM to test out, it's definitely way different than Astro25 CPS but I'm sure I could figure it out.
Regardless, does anyone else have reports on the build quality of the XG-100P? I'm thinking I might get the mobile version to avoid worrying about the apparent build quality issues of the portable.
The mobile is fine, even with the CH721 control head. The CH100 is nice, but can always be added in the future. It is easier to find the mobiles in the CH721 configuration and get the CH100 separately if you want one.
i have not been able to find one in a year which means people DO NOT let them go easily.... with a pricetag close thats a bit painful, still a WAY WAY cheaper then an APX8500l... but all jokes aside EDACS, ADP, and overall reliability defiantly make the XG100M attractive. i also keep in mind on harris radios control head firmware is separate from the "brain"
I am looking for an XG100M to replace my APX75K and in the mean time I will use my 2 xg100p and KNG2 P800 .. Not easy to find a 100M and or they want way to much for just the brick ..
How have the XG100P's treated you in terms of reliability and such?
I have been using the XG100P for the past 8 months and with in that time I have had no trouble at all with the radio but then I do take care to make sure I do not drop it even if it is somewhat of a brick but since it does receive all bands and will hold up to 8 mission plans aka codeplugs its not hard to switch between them and since I live in the DC Metro I need a radio that will let you me switch between VA Stars which is a VHF platform and Maryland which is a 700/800 phase 2 plus WVA which is UHF phase 2 I need all 3 bands. It is easier then moto to program for NAS and the software is out their as well.
Interesting. How many talkgroups can you scan at once? I do have the appropriate RPM, but I haven't had time to mess with it yet, it's wayyy different than Astro 25 CPS.
The zone will scan up to 48 talk groups at one time if you have it set on the zone you created to listen to. If you leave it on the P25 system it will scan the whole system but not sure since I have not let it on the county system yet but then the county that I live in has over 200 talk groups in it and about 50 to 100 of them are active with in 30 minutes. What i have done is set my a,b,c switch below the channel number to switch from a 16 to b 16tg to c 16tg or just turn scan on and it will scan all 48 at once.. plus their are 3 boxes you need to check and or uncheck so it will do a NAS scan
No, but it can be made to emulate it by setting up a custom scan for that zone only.
This is true, but you might as well put your 'zone' into it's own system, and tick the 'Scan' checkbox for each talkgroup in that system's p25 group set. End result is the same.
Can't do that if you need to mix conventional and trunked (or multiple trunked systems) in a single zone. Quite common in my area.
If you're going to go the route you suggest, you might as well skip setting up zones entirely, and simply use systems.
You won't be scanning multiple trunked systems anyway. Not unless they all have the same WACN and SYSID. The XG-100P doesn't scan across P25 trunked systems with differing WACN's and SYSID's.
Mixed System Zones are zones of manually selected channels/groups and those channels/groups in the zone are not scannable. Only the system tied to each individual channel or group, in the zone, gets scanned.
Scanning across the channels/groups assigned in a zone is not supported by the XG-100P.
Mixed System Zones are zones of manually selected channels/groups and those channels/groups in the zone are not scannable. Only the system tied to each individual channel or group, in the zone, gets scanned.
Scanning across the channels/groups assigned in a zone is not supported by the XG-100P.
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I'm not thinking only of scanning; some of us actually use the XG100P for official purposes. If I want to scan across systems, I use an actual scanner.
As a system administrator, amateurs setting up real radios to use as "NAS scanners" concerns me; even though most radios other than Motorola can be set up to disable transmit on talkgroups (Motorola's method doesn't work very well and sucks), there's still a good chance someone will make an error and cause a problem.
Use LLA on your system if you're concerned about dups, inhibit anything that shows up as a dup.
And to your point, yes, if you have a legit subscriber unit on multiple systems, a zone could be easier for the end user. You can't enable scanning in a zone (via a scan list) across multiple networks.
When using mixed zones to make it easy on the end user, they will always end up on the system instead of the zone and then complain that their channel lineup is wrong. At least L3Harris allows you to hide systems in RPM2.
How do you scan only a certain site and not just grab whatever strongest control channel.
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