Michigan Military Activity

N8CBG

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Pike and Steelhead MOAs

These frequencies have been fairly active over the past few weeks between 8AM and 7PM.

138.425
139.300
139.625
139.700
139.850
139.975
141.600
143.925
142.200
142.400

238.900 AR-632 / R-4201
324.600 AR-107
 

Firetxmi

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I noticed R-4201 was "activated" on the website showing the maps of MOA's the other day. Any idea at what fl the AR takes place at? I am in the Eastern U.P. and have heard 632, steelhead, and the pikes only 2 times. Hoping to log more milair! :D
 

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N8CBG, I looked on what I have in milair as well as the wiki, what is the useage of 142.400?


my page:
webpages.charter.net/radiosite/MidmichiganScanner.html
 
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N8CBG

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142.400 and the others were used for air to air combat and targeting on 04/17/07, it was a very busy day up there and I thought they sounded like the DEMON group from Selfridge but not sure.

Also today I heard one of the Tankers from 128th Air Refueling Wing based in Milwaukee.
I'm fairly certain they were using the AR-107 track on 235.100 Mhz.
 

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Reach 2858 is departing Selfridge requesting 'direct Goshen'. Anyone have more details on the aircraft/destination?
 

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IRISH and COMET flights from the 122nd Fighter Wing, Fort Wayne, IN. were up in the Steelhead Friday, COMET 2 lost cabin pressure at altitude and declared an in flight emergency so COMET 1 & COMET 2 had to RTB. They were on 138.300 Mhz and then pushed V-01 to talk to their base on 138.400 Mhz. The flight was not sure how contact Cleveland Center, they tried several frequencies, then one of our DEMON aircraft working in the area helped them out and had them try the center on 290.425 Mhz.
 

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Restricted air space violation

As an avid private pilot who has been flying since 1974 I have never heard the following warning that was directed towards a pilot that strayed into one of the MOAs the other day. If you fly this is a good example of why you want to keep your second radio tuned to the guard frequency, 121.500 Mhz. If you somehow fly into a restricted area the Air Force will be calling for you on 121.500 as this recording shows. It was recorded on Friday May 11, 2007 as the offending aircraft flew into a restricted area.

Here's the link, sorry the signal was a bit weak but readable:

http://www.your401k.org/Restricted Area violation warning May 11 2007.mp3
 

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"UFOs" seen near Gaylord

GAYLORD, MI
Gaylord Herald Times
By Jil Schult, Staff Writer Posted Saturday, May 5, 2007 12:20 AM EDT

LEWISTON — Claims of UFOs flying over Lewiston Wednesday night were quickly discredited by officials who said they were conducting military training.

Area resident Jeff Nickert, who called the Herald Times at approximately 5:30 a.m. Thursday, is not convinced.

“It kinda freaked me out,” said the Lewiston man in a telephone interview Thursday. “I never saw anything like this in my life.”

Nickert explained seeing “electricity floating through the air” or “a mass of energy floating through the air” when he returned home from work at approximately 10:30 p.m. Wednesday.

“There were four or five diamond-shaped UFOs,” Nickert said. “Then fighter jets — out of nowhere — there were 20 jets in the air.”

Predawn and through the day Thursday, Nickert contacted police, Camp Grayling, television news and newspapers to report his observations.

“There were a lot of (smart) remarks,” said Nickert, not convinced anyone was taking him too seriously.

Nickert contacted the National UFO Association, who he claims told him to fill out some forms on the Internet and not to talk to anyone.

“I’d like to find what was in sky,” he said.

Mike Boguth, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service (NWS) south of Gaylord, said there was nothing at all unusual weather-wise Wednesday night.

“I don’t know what people are seeing,” said Col. Tom Lamie of Camp Grayling who noted his personnel were doing nothing to produce any strange lights or anything else Wednesday or Thursday.

Maj. Andrew Roberts of the Grayling Aerial Gunnery Range, an extension of the Alpena Combat Readiness Training Center, which is off Marlette Road near Waters, said fighter jets were in the sky Wednesday night from 8:40-11.

“Our area does extend within 10 miles of Lewiston,” said Roberts.

Nickert claims the action he witnessed in the sky lasted much longer. “Those jets were flying way after 11. It lasted ’til about 7:30 this morning,” he insisted.

His mother agrees.

According to Denise Nickert, who went outside several times Wednesday night, a lot of jets were swarming around these “masses of light with a kind of electricity floating through them and changing colors.

“They moved pretty swiftly, effortlessly,” said Denise Nickert.

Roberts said approximately seven aircraft were in and around the area from the Waters location to Alpena.

The practicing pilots use flares that have a heat signature to train for being shot at overseas, he explained. One of the primary weapons the enemy uses is shoulder-launched missiles, which seek the heat of the aircraft’s engines. Flare decoys are used so the missile doesn’t hit the aircraft.

“They were not flares,” said Denise Nickert. “I don’t know what they were, but they were not flares.”

She described how the masses would split in half several times and never dissipate. She said they were not northern lights and not stars.

“There was some real bizarre stuff going on,” she said, adding, “they were incredibly beautiful.”

Jeff Nickert said during his research on Thursday, the same things he described had been spotted in five other states during the last week. He did his research on mufon.com and nationalufocenter.com.

“Our jets were not fighting UFOs,” said Master Sgt. Alan VanPate of the Grayling Aerial Gunnery Range.

VanPate added the jets were flying at an altitude of anywhere between 23,000 feet to 500 feet at any given time.
 

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N8CBG said:
As an avid private pilot who has been flying since 1974 I have never heard the following warning that was directed towards a pilot that strayed into one of the MOAs the other day. If you fly this is a good example of why you want to keep your second radio tuned to the guard frequency, 121.500 Mhz. If you somehow fly into a restricted area the Air Force will be calling for you on 121.500 as this recording shows. It was recorded on Friday May 11, 2007 as the offending aircraft flew into a restricted area.

Here's the link, sorry the signal was a bit weak but readable:

http://www.your401k.org/Restricted%20Area%20violation%20warning%20May%2011%202007.mp3

I logged three broadcasts of similiar content on that same day but on 243.000 MHz. The times were 10:21 AM, 10:23 AM and 11:14 AM local. I'm wondering if this was a training exercise or maybe they were simulcasting on 121.500 as well.

Jeff
 

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Hi Jeff, the first time I heard this I checked 121.500 & 243.000 Mhz and he was on both guard channels.

About that UFO story, it showed up on the Coast to Coast AM web site today.

I've heard a lot of great Air Force traffic up there over the past few weeks but those UFO things must be using their VHF "Secure Voice" encrypted channels.
 
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Dose any one have any tips on a good scanner antenna for milair listening and I am using a pro 97 and also a pro 2030(I know that this radio dose not do milair band). I am just getting more in to milair scanning.
 

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I don't know if anyone else heard it, but about a half hour ago YALTA 32 declared an in flight emergency. He said that there was an odor of oil and there was a little smoke in the cockpit.
 

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Chief_71 said:
I don't know if anyone else heard it, but about a half hour ago YALTA 32 declared an in flight emergency. He said that there was an odor of oil and there was a little smoke in the cockpit.
Their planes are always falling apart. Any update on this?
 

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Chief_71 said:
I don't know if anyone else heard it, but about a half hour ago YALTA 32 declared an in flight emergency. He said that there was an odor of oil and there was a little smoke in the cockpit.
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I heard it. They asked if he could see ok and breathe ok to land. As the plane went over me, i would have to say the 'throtle' sounded like it was going up and down. not an even sound like normal.
 

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I saw three A-10s heading west along 15 mile road. Did anyone happen to hear anything from them? I wasnt near my scanner.
 

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YANKEE 29 Flight

KMTC said:
I saw three A-10s heading west along 15 mile road. Did anyone happen to hear anything from them? I wasnt near my scanner.

I wish I could have seen them fly by!

They were the YANKEE 29 Flight from the Connecticut Air National Guard 103rd FW and passed over northern Oakland County and near the Pontiac / Oakland County Airport on their way to the Falls MOA in Wisconsin. They were on 140.200 Mhz. I heard them checking out the lakes in the Waterford area. Shortly after that I heard TAZ-62 report in 400 miles from the entry point to the Falls MOA on 138.075 Mhz. It sounded like they were going to join up with the TAJAS and YANKEE flights over there.

Here's a link to their web site:
http://www.ctbrad.ang.af.mil/ourmission.html
 
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