BCDx36HP Firmware 1.21.00 Available

[scan-pa]

No, before we added nxdn firmware, the 436 decoded these 3 sites 100% error free. Plus had another person running dsd+ on the same said systems and none of the errant tg or uid exist. When using the toggle left / right on the vol knob in the midst of the conversations, it would then display the correct tg and uid info till the next user keys up. These are all cap+ dmr systems.

I doubt its due to a hardware issue in only some scanners. It's more likely to be an oddball configuration on some systems, or a side effect of RAS, which makes error correction impossible on systems that use it. Weak signal + RAS is going to have erroneous TG and unit IDs, and there's little that can be done to fix that.

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[jonwienke]

I can confirm that the LCN Finder is broken again, at least for CAP+ / RAS. I'm running it on the Franklin County Jail system again with my 436, and it's still on 0/2 even though the 536 has heard several transmissions. They are connected to the same outdoor antenna, and programmed with the same favorite lists.

I'm going to let it run a while longer, then post a log.

 

[jonwienke]

LCN Finder is definitely borked for CAP+/RAS systems. The 536 heard transmissions on both frequencies for the jail, but the 436 running LCN Finder on the same system/site never picked up a thing. Both scanners are running 1.21.00 and are using the same favorite lists, and are connected to the same antenna.

Log files:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApJIS-l4xqPtgvM8TCjdOmWeQoeEhA

 

[AtlasFBG2]

I am experiencing issues with lcn finder and search on a connect plus system.

All frequencies in use programed in the lcn finder wont hold onto a signal.

In search it wont stop on 2 separate connect plus control channels. If I press channel hold and scroll to the control channel frequency it then shows full signal and gives the system and site number.

I used this 436 scanner to find the lcn order on both sites prior to doing the nxdn upgrade. So I am not sure if it is this 1.21 firmware or a prior firmware that the issue started.

My ws1095 was picking up plenty of traffic on the site.

Is there a way to go back to a prior firmware version to see if the issue is still present?

 

[buddrousa]

Read post 5 at this link
https://forums.radioreference.com/u...an-logs-lcn-finder-problems-cap-max-tiii.html

 

[INDY72]

It was fixed... But now is back apparently. .14ish through .17 had the DMR issues on LCN finder and the Fake TG/UID... That got fixed and NXDN was added... With the updates through this one the NXDN issues were fixed pretty much... But somehow it looks like the old DMR bug is back for the LCN finder.. And on maybe 2 or 3 scanners the false TG/UID issue is still there. This has to be frustrating as Hell to the techs.

And yes there is a site that has all the FW versions up to the latest. I will see if I can find it again.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/BCD436HP/files/Firmware/

So I reverted back to .20 just to be on the safe side as I know it had no issues on my 436.

 

[vocoder]

Nx48 displayed no voice

For info:
On x36hp series, when there is a tx without voice (open mic key) on a vhf conventional 4800, scanner displays nx4 but never stops on channel. Verified with nxdn radio tx. When tx stops, nx4 goes away.

 

[jonwienke]

How is the scanner displaying NX4 if it isn't stopping on the channel?

 

[vocoder]

Strange, but it does
Seems like it waits for modulation before it opens squelch
The moment there is voice it stops on that channel
This is with ran codes set

 

[werinshades]

If you haven't done so already, check the % of Memory used. Might be filling up the SD card which would explain odd display behavior.

 

[vocoder]

Thanks

Had tried a new sd card with just a few systems on it before i posted

 

[jonwienke]

Post a link to a video showing the problem. The only way NX4 is being displayed without the scanner not stopping scan is if the signal is so strong it is bleeding over to every channel being scanned. More likely what is happening is that the scanner is detecting the transmission and pausing scan, but is treating it as some sort of non-voice data until you speak.

Record a debug log, and post that alog with the video.

 

[SCPD]

It was fixed... But now is back apparently. .14ish through .17 had the DMR issues on LCN finder and the Fake TG/UID... That got fixed and NXDN was added... With the updates through this one the NXDN issues were fixed pretty much... But somehow it looks like the old DMR bug is back for the LCN finder.. And on maybe 2 or 3 scanners the false TG/UID issue is still there. This has to be frustrating as Hell to the techs.

And yes there is a site that has all the FW versions up to the latest. I will see if I can find it again.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/BCD436HP/files/Firmware/

So I reverted back to .20 just to be on the safe side as I know it had no issues on my 436.

Do you also notice with this fw and past 3 the uhf / vhf recieve shows no signal or even 1/2 signal strength on all p25 systems...rolled back to 1.11.31 and all signal rssi strenths increased in proscan about 150 rssi and 2 bars on scanner went to 5 bars on scanner since nxdn updates signal meter sticks at 2 bars... also not that p25 decode has dropped from 0-3 error rate to 50+ error rate on manual 8 nfm

 

[SCPD]

LCN Finder is definitely borked for CAP+/RAS systems. The 536 heard transmissions on both frequencies for the jail, but the 436 running LCN Finder on the same system/site never picked up a thing. Both scanners are running 1.21.00 and are using the same favorite lists, and are connected to the same antenna.

Log files:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApJIS-l4xqPtgvM8TCjdOmWeQoeEhA

Same issue here on my 436 and signal strength has significantly dropped at least 2 -3 bars... almost like its being half extenuated on vhf/uhf no 800 in area... On my multicoupler same frequencies on the 996p2 Attenuate on and full signal. 436hp with attenuate on nothing will pick up with it off 1-2 signal bars maxed...this happened after the 1.11.17 update and disapeared and is now back...

 

[jonwienke]

Do you also notice with this fw and past 3 the uhf / vhf recieve shows no signal or even 1/2 signal strength on all p25 systems...

I see full bars on several P25 systems, VHF and UHF.

rolled back to 1.11.31 and all signal rssi strenths increased in proscan about 150 rssi and 2 bars on scanner went to 5 bars on scanner since nxdn updates signal meter sticks at 2 bars... also not that p25 decode has dropped from 0-3 error rate to 50+ error rate on manual 8 nfm

The threshold values associated with the threshold numbers were changed recently, so the optimum manual setting is not the same as before. Auto mode is the best option now, unless you're dealing with simulcast, and for that you will have to re-establish the best Manual setting. If you've been using Manual threshold mode and haven't updated the threshold value recently, your settings are wrong now, and that's probably why you saw the signal bars change.

 

[SCPD]

I see full bars on several P25 systems, VHF and UHF.



The threshold values associated with the threshold numbers were changed recently, so the optimum manual setting is not the same as before. Auto mode is the best option now, unless you're dealing with simulcast, and for that you will have to re-establish the best Manual setting. If you've been using Manual threshold mode and haven't updated the threshold value recently, your settings are wrong now, and that's probably why you saw the signal bars change.

restring to auto threshold and thank you for advice will try this out and get back with results after trying this setting out for a couple days

 

[vocoder]

Upman nxdn info

Upman, just for your info or programmers info, i noticed that some conventional nxdn users are still using wide 25khz. I brought this to your attention cuz i dont know how this effects the way the 436hp & 536hp decodes nxdn. When scanning some of these or holding on them, seems there is some decoding trouble. Does wide affect the way the fw works or fw affect the way wide is used by nxdn systems?

 

[KC4ASF]

Finally my P25 systems sound better with this updated firmware and changing to automatic!

https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/592

 

[johnk9deputy]

I am going to put this in here and hope I get some answers to the questions, I live in Polk County Fl, and I listen to Polk state college security which is nxdn, on ver 19 I was getting the voice channels crystal clear.
with that being said now since I did the upgrade of 20 and 21 ver. now when the college keys up it sounds like nothing but noise like before I bought the upgrade. and to add to this highlands and Hardee county is an encrypt channels and both of my 436 and my 536 will stop on the encrypt channels. and it has never done that before. I have went back and checked all my settings before writing this case findings. any suggestions on why and how to fix this or is there something in the new upgrade that caused this to start.

 

[jonwienke]

Re-read posts #52 - #58.