BCDx36HP Firmware 1.20.00 Available

[wx5uif]

I have several VHF sites where the CHID does not necessarily follow the frequencies in order when sorted. The frequency can be mapped to any CHID when the admin sets the system up.

However, the problem here is Sentinel doesn’t import NXDN yet.


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[PJH]

Ok that makes sense.

In all the many multi thread x36 posts, I did not come across the sentenal issue, which would make sense (sort of). And yes, the scanner loads ALL the “other” systems just as all the Uniden DB aware products do that they support (kind of the point of the product).

As a Global Admin for the other poster, my job is to help maintain the backend of the database - not be up on the 20+ products that use the DB information in its each and own way. Nice try at trying to take a jab.

There are no local NXDN systems in my three residence areas, so coming across this issue, along with the back to back firmware updates all seemed suspect.

 

[jonwienke]

https://forums.radioreference.com/u...436hp-bcd536hp-now-available.html#post2905037

links to

https://www.uniden.com/newsroom/nxdn-support-comes-bcd436hp-bcd536hp/

which says

Note that the Sentinel software has not been updated, yet, to support these new features. All programming for NXDN needs to be done using the scanner’s menu system. We recommend you create a new Favorites List for NXDN systems. When you update your scanner using Sentinel, take care not to erase that Favorites List.

Upon release, the price for this upgrade will be $30. Once Sentinel has been updated to provide NXDN support, the price will increase to $60.

also:

https://forums.radioreference.com/u...6hp-bcd536hp-now-available-2.html#post2905342

https://forums.radioreference.com/u...6hp-bcd536hp-now-available-3.html#post2905442

http://forums.radioreference.com/un...6hp-bcd536hp-now-available-3.html#post2905656

http://forums.radioreference.com/un...6hp-bcd536hp-now-available-7.html#post2907787

etc, etc.

 

[bravo14]

I have noticed on fw .20 I see some false ids on a cap+ system.

 

[UPMan]

I have noticed on fw .20 I see some false ids on a cap+ system.

RAS enabled system?

 

[DaveNF2G]

I did some recording with my 536 during the past few days. The audio on recorded DMR is much smoother than before.

 

[bravo14]

RAS enabled system?

I don't think so. It's been awhile I ran dsd plus for that system. This is happening on the 536hp I'm seeing false tgs. This is the system https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=8454 site 6

 

[garys]

No. The problem is with your understanding of how NXDN trunking works, the capabilities of Sentinel (right now), and apparently how to manually program the scanners. The latter is understandable as programming a trunk system manually is a PITA.

OTOH, ARC536 does a nice job programming, and I think that there is at least one other program out there that will work.

So basically it’s still fubar on the x36’s to make it work the same way as everything else does. I was expecting that the system would show up and be scanned just as any other, and the system does not appear on any menu in the scanner.

 

[INDY72]

ProScan, and Butel ARC both are pretty good. As will be Sentinel if they ever et it figured out to work with the SDS100 so they can put out a fully functional NXDN capable version..... Kinda funny how Bob Aune already has a mocked up initial version of ProScan READY to tweak for the SDS100 huh? Such is life.

 

[jonwienke]

Having a pretty UI mockup is not the same as having all the internal functionality working properly. One takes a day or two, the other may take weeks.

Uniden also has to account for new database structure to include the variants of NXDN on their back end and the Sentinel app front end, as well as all the other stuff on the user end for the SDS100. Getting all that done right takes time.

 

[UPMan]

Uniden also has one small set of engineers working on this plus all other scanner projects (i.e. SDS100, BCDx36HP updates, all other scanner updates, new projects). What get done when is also a matter of triage.

 

[W4ELL]

Uniden also has one small set of engineers working on this plus all other scanner projects (i.e. SDS100, BCDx36HP updates, all other scanner updates, new projects). What get done when is also a matter of triage.

And... we get to enjoy the half price x36 NXDN upgrade for a little while longer.

And... the "new projects" only means more fun for us in the coming months. (Which also means my wallet gets to lose more weight!)

It's a win/win/lose situation.

 

[vocoder]

With the new fw, will encrypted dmr tg display enc while muting?
Thanks

 

[Jay911]

With the new fw, will encrypted dmr tg display enc while muting?
Thanks

Look carefully at the release notes posted in post #1 of this thread. Do you see your topic referenced there?

1.20.00 Release Notes (05/18/2018)

• Fixed odd ASCII characters issue for NXDN Alias
• Improved CPU processing load for keypress lag
• Modified several operations for Site/Department hold

 

[vocoder]

Actually i meant to say, any of the last maybe, 4 fw updates
Also asked this cuz other users are noticing some unlisted changes to dmr after fw upgrade

 

[u2brent]

With the new fw, will encrypted dmr tg display enc while muting?
Thanks

The Muting & Skipping of encrypted Tg's is supposedly normal and you can't have e-muting without the scanner also skipping. In other words (unless using discovery) The Tg's shouldn't appear except for the split second it takes for the scanner to determine encryption is in use and move on.

So, unless your staring at the display constantly, you won't even notice it happening, let alone see ENC displayed. (afaik PC logging software will not catch & log this activity because it occurs so quickly)

The squelch never opens.

 

[vocoder]

Thanks

Ok, the other users posts i read must have caught the enc displayed at the right moment
With that being said, i assumed before it skipped and moved on scanning, it displayed the enc for a little longer.

And yes, discovery mode made me start to rethink options

 

[jonwienke]

(afaik PC logging software will not catch & log this activity because it occurs so quickly)

Not true of ProScan:
406 Adams County Public Safety - West System - Law Enforcement - East Police Dispatch 10002 855.7375 442 NFM 00:00:48 05/17/18 22:29:56 05/21/18 23:43:29 P25 Trunk PT1

TG 10002 is 100% encrypted. 406 hits for a cumulative total of 48 seconds is about 118ms per hit--just long enough for the scanner to detect encryption and move on. But not so fast that the hit isn't logged, both TGID and UID.

I did have one hit on that talkgroup where encryption was not detected for some reason, and I got about 6 seconds of garble. But the vast majority of it was muted and not recorded.

 

[u2brent]

And again I'll point out that you are monitoring a P25 PH2 System. When Uniden gets the feature working at 100% (at some point in the future) You will no longer see that either. (Unless using discovery)

This is what a few hobbyist understand and would like to have the ability (ie Option) to STOP ENC MUTING & SKIPPING.

Even if it's a feature only accessible via the front menu panel and not in Sentinel. That would save a small engineering crew a bit of work as I understand it.

But "I know noth...ing" Just a fish in a barrel waiting for the trigger pull :lol:

Proscan pays me nothing to say this. :roll:

 

[jonwienke]

Encrypted DMR works the same way, which happens to be as Uniden says it should. Encrypted transmissions are skipped as soon as encryption is detected, but hits are logged in ProScan and discovery. As long as hits are logged, you have yet to articulate a coherent reason for forcing the user to listen to encryption garble audio.