SDS100/SDS200: SDS100 Firmware 1.03.01 Public Release

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Pezking

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The beta testers submitted and cleared over 200 bugs prior to the scanner's release. The firmware updates since release have dealt with maybe 10 bugs. Your comments are eminently flame-worthy.
Which leads me to believe you are still working on a back log of issues you were unable to resolve prior to release.
 

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Beat me to it! Yes...with ARC536 you can change systems type without deleting the entire system and starting all over again. I've changed many systems in the past from X2 TDMA to P25. This would be a nice feature for future Sentinel upgrades.
The Pro version only, or will the basic version accomplish this?

I ended up creating a new system in Sentinel, and then just copying and pasting all the data over to the new system, and then I deleted the old system.
 

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The Pro version only, or will the basic version accomplish this?

I ended up creating a new system in Sentinel, and then just copying and pasting all the data over to the new system, and then I deleted the old system.


Basic version too.
 

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The beta testers submitted and cleared over 200 bugs prior to the scanner's release. The firmware updates since release have dealt with maybe 10 bugs. Your comments are eminently flame-worthy.


Nothing like buying a car just to bring it to the mechanic 10 times....


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Or, every time someone brings up something negative about Uniden, you seem to jump on them. There is a conspiracy theory going in the Unication forums based on your amount of posts and all of them relating to how great Uniden is. So, stop trying to belittle users that haven’t had good experiences by blaming it on something other than the product, which you just admitted had 200 bugs found by beta testers and another 10 after its release.


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Or, every time someone brings up something negative about Uniden, you seem to jump on them. There is a conspiracy theory going in the Unication forums based on your amount of posts and all of them relating to how great Uniden is. So, stop trying to belittle users that haven’t had good experiences by blaming it on something other than the product, which you just admitted had 200 bugs found by beta testers and another 10 after its release.


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What is funny is everybody that disagrees with you is a conspiracy theory person. Do you own a SDS100? I am trying to make up my mind if I am going to buy my 4th 536 or wait and hope they release the base version of the SDS100.
 

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Nothing like buying a car just to bring it to the mechanic 10 times....


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I’ve gotta stand with John on the 200/10 issue. With probably just a handful of beta testers, there’s no way to run up against all the possible permutations of individual system setups, local conditions, and workarounds that a particular technician may have used to conquer an issue with Dept. A vs. Dept. B, or how User 1 set up his radio vs. User 2, etc. As John eluded with the software comment, it seems totally understandable and, quite frankly, expected that there would be some additional bugs/fine tuning to be done when thousands of radios go into service across such a wide area. When I started out listening I was using a Monitoradio MR-10 and an Allied A-2589. Back then MSP’s 5th Dist. was on 42.58 MHz, 6th Dist. was on 42.68 and all the cars were on 42.74. I literally wore through the string that moved the needle across the dial to listen to both sides of a conversation during chases and other incidents. Believe me when I say that my SDS100 is an incredible piece of equipment and I’ll be glowing like a vacuum tube with every firmware update and just as happy to install it!


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Folks - how about we all just buy what we believe we want and what works for you.

We need choices and competition to make things better across the board.

You cannot force things just one way - with only "positive" comments allowed - and expect everyone else to post only positive comments. These pro and con positions are needed for consumers to make educated choices and to help make products better. People want to know - good or bad. Nothing is perfect. Everyone doesn't have unlimited funds nor is everyone an expert.

Please keep it to the product and your findings/observations - good or bad and stop the individual attacks on other users for posting their opinions simply because you have a different result or opinion (good or bad).

If it works for you - great.

If it doesn't and you don't want to buy it or bought it and want to return it - do so.

It's your money - use it how you see fit.
 

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I guess I am the opposite. Most people I know in the scanning hobby use 24 hour time because that is what is used on 98% of the agencies that use radios. But as long it is an option, 100% of people can be satisfied!

Most people in the scanning hobby I know use the 12 hr. format and how I would prefer.
 

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Unication has made what; two P25 pagers?

How come they can get everything right that Uniden can't after at least 10 different attempts... 10 different products... hundreds of revisions, millions in development... Uniden used to stand for quality, now they are more flash than functionality.
 

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So, stop trying to belittle users that haven’t had good experiences by blaming it on something other than the product, which you just admitted had 200 bugs found by beta testers and another 10 after its release.

The only person I "belittled" by his own admission never bothered to install firmware updates that most likely would have solved most of the issues he complained about, and yet has continued to post complaints anyway, along with contradictory accounts regarding whether he sold his SDS100 to someone else, or returned it. If you want conspiracies, try looking there.
 

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How to change an erroneously stored X2 TDMA system to P25 (PH1/2) using notepad.

Close Sentinel.

Using windows explorer.
Go to the folder where your hpd files are stored.

C:\Users\"Your User Acount Here"\Documents\Uniden\BCDx36HP\FavoriteLists

open the file "f_list.cfg" using notepad.
Take note of which hpd file is associated with the System/FL you want to change.
close that file without making any changes.

Next.

Open the correct HPD file you just identified using notepad.

Locate the line labeled TRUNK for the system you want to change.
to the right of TRUNK you'll see system name & type P25X2_TDMA

To Change the System change the text P25X2_TDMA to P25Standard

Save the changes.

Reopen Sentinel.

Voila....

You did it all by yourself.. without resorting to 3rd Party software..
 

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The only person I "belittled" by his own admission never bothered to install firmware updates that most likely would have solved most of the issues he complained about, and yet has continued to post complaints anyway, along with contradictory accounts regarding whether he sold his SDS100 to someone else, or returned it. If you want conspiracies, try looking there.

And now that people are coming out saying even the latest firmware didn't change their similar issues? Defective equipment I'm sure, or maybe, "interference" (that other devices aren't affected by).

Anyway, my primary "issue", is that I can take the SDS100 wherever I want, and set it next to a G4, and can then show anyone that the G4 will pull in simulcast system after simulcast system after simulcast system for quite some distance, while the SDS won't pick up any distant simulcast systems, usually nothing outside of what it is sitting in simulcast-wise. Oh wait, no, maybe my main "issue" was the fact that with the SDS100 I can't even listen to my own police department, while sitting in my own home, in that city...yeah, that's probably my main "issue" on second thought (the G4 gets Simulcast G of the RWC at four bars in my house). The fact that the SDS100 is inferior to the 436 on the ancient smartzone system that MCSO uses doesn't help matters (interference again, I'm sure).

But have no fear, firmware will fix everything, just be patient right? Sure. OK, maybe that's the case, I'll grant the possibility. Maybe I was impatient, but my trusted gut instinct says....not so. I still see people posting new youtube vids with the same problem of not switching from CC to talk frequency...with the latest firmware installed. But I'm sure another firmware release or two will fix that as well right? Or maybe that's just "interference" that needs to be found and eliminated so that the SDS can do what the 436 and the G4 already do just fine in the same locations?

Oh wait, sorry, I forgot, it's "not fair" to compare the SDS100 to the G4, either...

I'm glad the SDS works well for some, and I believe them, YMMV with these things. But some obviously are seeing what I'm seeing. Maybe we are a minority, then great, so be it. But there are reported issues, and some seriously doubt that firmware will fix them, while others have tried the latest firmware, and it didn't fix those issues. I also believe these people as well.

Oh, and you didn't belittle anyone, so no worries.
 

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But have no fear, firmware will fix everything, just be patient right? Sure. OK, maybe that's the case, I'll grant the possibility. Maybe I was impatient, but my trusted gut instinct says....not so. I still see people posting new youtube vids with the same problem of not switching from CC to talk frequency...with the latest firmware installed. But I'm sure another firmware release or two will fix that as well right?

The firmware updates released after you returned/sold your SDS100 specifically addressed weak-signal performance and the endless jittering between control channel and voice channel issue, and in most cases, they either made significant improvements, or solved the issue. There are still some issues being worked, but significant progress has been made.

The spreadsheet of user reports doing head-to-head comparisons between the SDS100 and the Unications seems to indicate that overall performance is pretty close overall, unless you buy into conspiracy theories about faked data.
 

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Have you also thought of adding the ability to give the user the option to select 12 hour am/pm in the radio? Not everyone uses 24 hour format. honestly i hardly know anyone that does. Only a select few.

Real men use 24 hour time!! ;-)
 

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Still seeing same issues with 1.03.01 that I was with 1.02.05b. Still missing short transmissions when the scanner changes frequency on a P25 Phase 1 trunk system. In this version, I noticed the transmissions weren't as stable and from my ear just didn't sound as sharp as version 1.02.03 as I confirmed by a higher DB. Reverted back to 1.02.03...sounds good again. In my opinion, P25 stability has degraded with later versions, while might have resolved other trunking formats.
 

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I gotta ask,
With all of the weekly firmware updates being issued, what were the results of the Beta testing ? I mean really, it seems like the new owners are now the beta testers and trial subjects.
Seems like this scanner was rushed to production like the X36 scanners. With all the bugs and flaws..
Just saying.
Flame away.

And in a way most of us early adopters are some sort of beta testers. I don’t mind and I know what I signed up for when I bought it this early in the game. At least Uniden is listening and working with us in fixing what’s not up to par. And we get to help fix it better and sooner to fit our needs and wants when we get the input submitted early on.

I’ve been doing this throughout the years with other hardware and software, etc. It’s why I call it hobby...
 
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