2315 local Getting strong WBFM Orderwire on known 232.450,could be that E-4B.
Looks like Friday morning after Tampa Thursday a stop in Baltimore.
http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_3435.html
Mark
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2315 local Getting strong WBFM Orderwire on known 232.450,could be that E-4B.
Looks like Friday morning after Tampa Thursday a stop in Baltimore.
http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_3435.html
Mark
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01.28.2010 am
01.28.2010 am
1106Z 125.650 PT DEP - NAVY 101 (C-37A/B VR-1) - to 17K QSY ZDC-Woodstown 125,450 to FL230.
1118Z 123.825 PT A/D - REACH 6015 (C-5B 86-0015 436th AMW) - 16-15K dir WOOLY dir Dover AFB QSY PT APP 128.700 to 11K.
1154Z 128.350 PT APP - REACH 383 - 16K i/b Dover AFB. Also up w/Dover CP 349.400 w/arr. msg.
01.28.2010 am
1106Z 125.650 PT DEP - NAVY 101 (C-37A/B VR-1) - to 17K QSY ZDC-Woodstown 125,450 to FL230.
1118Z 123.825 PT A/D - REACH 6015 (C-5B 86-0015 436th AMW) - 16-15K dir WOOLY dir Dover AFB QSY PT APP 128.700 to 11K.
1154Z 128.350 PT APP - REACH 383 - 16K i/b Dover AFB. Also up w/Dover CP 349.400 w/arr. msg.
1240 local TREND 41 flight in the block 27-280 on ZDC 257.700
Think they are Southbound as had hit on ZDC 281.450 earlier.
1255 TREND 42 req wx for Shaw and KCHS on Langley metro 239.800
Mark
Think they are Southbound as had hit on ZDC 281.450 earlier.
1255 TREND 42 req wx for Shaw and KCHS on Langley metro 239.800
Mark
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mdmonitor
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Logs, 28 Jan
ACY-Atlantic City NJ
ADW- Andrews AFB MD
BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
DAA- Davison AAF, Ft Belvoir VA
DCA- Reagan National Airport/CGAS Washington, Wash DC
DOV- Dover AFB DE
GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
LFI- Langley AFB VA
MTN-Martin State Airport, Baltimore
NGTF-Northrop-Grumman Test Facility, Baltimore
NXX- Willow Grove JRB PA
PAX-NAS Patuxent River MD
PTC- Potomac Area TRACON
WRI-McGuire AFB NJ
ZBW-Boston ARTCC
ZDC- Washington ARTCC
ZNY- New York ARTCC
1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EST))
0950- Tester 01 (F-18B, NTPS PAX) & Tester 10 (T-38C # 15-8168 NTPS PAX-British accent)-w/BW (256.5) in ACM evaluation flt.
0952- Devil 11 flt (4 X F16s, 119th FS NJ ANG ACY)-w/BW (270.8)
0955- Venus 30 (C-40 # 01-0040, 99th AS ADW)-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9) & advises they are going to Patrick Henry Airport VA for pattern work. Returns to ADW at 1235.
1006- Score 16 (E-2C Hawkeye VX-20 PAX)-w/BW (270.8)
1031- SAM 93 (VC-32A # 99-0003, 1st AS ADW)-check in w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1032- Score 17 (unid, VX-20 PAX)-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9).
1037- Venus 22 (C-20B # 86-0202, 99th AS ADW)-w/Griffin CP (378.1) w/departure msg.
1044- N164W (BAC-1-11, NGTF)-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1130- Rogue 46 (C-5 or C-17, 436th AMW DOV)-check into W386 (249.8) for 1.5 hours. After about 20 mins curtails flt for unid problem and requests RTB DOV.
1132- Tester 963 (T-6A Texan II # 165963, NTPS PAX)-w/BW (355.8) in vertical testing w/unid chase acft.
1133- Baton 81 (EC-130J, 193rd SOG PA ANG Harrisburg PA)-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1145- Tester 11 (T-38C # 68-8158, NTPS PAX)-w/BW (270.8) for entry into North Spin Area.
1218- Salty Dog 205 (unid, VX-23 PAX)-w/BW (270.8) requesting current wx at PAX.
1226- Reach 253A-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
Ron (mdmonitor1@verizon.net)
Baltimore MD (390747N 763711W)
VHF/UHF: BC-895XLT/RS Pro-2045
Diamond D-130J discone
HF: Icom R75
45-ft PAR EF-SWL
ACY-Atlantic City NJ
ADW- Andrews AFB MD
BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
DAA- Davison AAF, Ft Belvoir VA
DCA- Reagan National Airport/CGAS Washington, Wash DC
DOV- Dover AFB DE
GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
LFI- Langley AFB VA
MTN-Martin State Airport, Baltimore
NGTF-Northrop-Grumman Test Facility, Baltimore
NXX- Willow Grove JRB PA
PAX-NAS Patuxent River MD
PTC- Potomac Area TRACON
WRI-McGuire AFB NJ
ZBW-Boston ARTCC
ZDC- Washington ARTCC
ZNY- New York ARTCC
1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EST))
0950- Tester 01 (F-18B, NTPS PAX) & Tester 10 (T-38C # 15-8168 NTPS PAX-British accent)-w/BW (256.5) in ACM evaluation flt.
0952- Devil 11 flt (4 X F16s, 119th FS NJ ANG ACY)-w/BW (270.8)
0955- Venus 30 (C-40 # 01-0040, 99th AS ADW)-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9) & advises they are going to Patrick Henry Airport VA for pattern work. Returns to ADW at 1235.
1006- Score 16 (E-2C Hawkeye VX-20 PAX)-w/BW (270.8)
1031- SAM 93 (VC-32A # 99-0003, 1st AS ADW)-check in w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1032- Score 17 (unid, VX-20 PAX)-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9).
1037- Venus 22 (C-20B # 86-0202, 99th AS ADW)-w/Griffin CP (378.1) w/departure msg.
1044- N164W (BAC-1-11, NGTF)-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1130- Rogue 46 (C-5 or C-17, 436th AMW DOV)-check into W386 (249.8) for 1.5 hours. After about 20 mins curtails flt for unid problem and requests RTB DOV.
1132- Tester 963 (T-6A Texan II # 165963, NTPS PAX)-w/BW (355.8) in vertical testing w/unid chase acft.
1133- Baton 81 (EC-130J, 193rd SOG PA ANG Harrisburg PA)-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1145- Tester 11 (T-38C # 68-8158, NTPS PAX)-w/BW (270.8) for entry into North Spin Area.
1218- Salty Dog 205 (unid, VX-23 PAX)-w/BW (270.8) requesting current wx at PAX.
1226- Reach 253A-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
Ron (mdmonitor1@verizon.net)
Baltimore MD (390747N 763711W)
VHF/UHF: BC-895XLT/RS Pro-2045
Diamond D-130J discone
HF: Icom R75
45-ft PAR EF-SWL
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MUSSELL-08 is doing some landing on the M4 pad at Mt. Weather.
NIGHTHAWK-12 is inbound from the west to land on the Bluegrass pad. 241.0
NIGHTHAWK-12 is inbound from the west to land on the Bluegrass pad. 241.0
Jan 28
( UHF)
0614 hr: 349.4 (Dover)-Reach 6015
1211 hr: 274.45-Steel 75 w/ Terra 58
1535 hr: 311.0-Steel 12
1717 hr: 274.45-Steel 64
1718 hr: 274.45-Decoy 99
1956 hr: 297.0-Decoy 63
2000 hr: 349.4 (Brick Yard)-Hire 81
2055 hr: 297.0-Handle 67
( UHF)
0614 hr: 349.4 (Dover)-Reach 6015
1211 hr: 274.45-Steel 75 w/ Terra 58
1535 hr: 311.0-Steel 12
1717 hr: 274.45-Steel 64
1718 hr: 274.45-Decoy 99
1956 hr: 297.0-Decoy 63
2000 hr: 349.4 (Brick Yard)-Hire 81
2055 hr: 297.0-Handle 67
0753 local GOLD 72 KC-135 #62-3511 121 ARW Ohio inbound Dover on
CP to pick up a part.
0800 BRAVE 1,2 up on 139.700,one taking North,the other taking South.
"till we run out of gas" Sounds like scramble intercept drill only.
Andrews on HF 8992 reports resuming normal ops at 1319z
Potus going to Baltimore this morning,TFR starts there at 10am local.
0850 A CANDO-02 KC-10 84-0192 up at 28k.
Mark
CP to pick up a part.
0800 BRAVE 1,2 up on 139.700,one taking North,the other taking South.
"till we run out of gas" Sounds like scramble intercept drill only.
Andrews on HF 8992 reports resuming normal ops at 1319z
Potus going to Baltimore this morning,TFR starts there at 10am local.
0850 A CANDO-02 KC-10 84-0192 up at 28k.
Mark
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mdmonitor
Member
Mark,
0854- Cando 02 (id as tanker)-w/GK (118.125) advising GK that ZDC has cleared them direct to Norfolk for AAR w/Jake 51 flt (F-22s, LFI) & T-bolt 61 flt (F-22s, 149th FS VA ANG LFI) in AR636. Is Cando another McGuire call?
mdmonitor
Member
Heads Up
Ed,
0929- Navy JA 05 (P-3C # 160291, VSX-1 PAX)-w/PAX departure (121.0) then check in at FL 7000ft w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
Looks like he's headed up your way again as he stated the other day.
Ed,
0929- Navy JA 05 (P-3C # 160291, VSX-1 PAX)-w/PAX departure (121.0) then check in at FL 7000ft w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
Looks like he's headed up your way again as he stated the other day.
Yeah Cando old McGuire callsign.Thanks for direction tie-up.
I got in just in time to hear that Navy P-3 over Delaware Bay req wx
for New England area on Mcguire metro 239.800.
Mark
mdmonitor
Member
1037 EST- Nighthawk 2 & 3 (HMX-1 MCAF Quantico)-w/Pancho (unid) advising they are 2 mins out. Might be related to POTUS visit to Baltimore this morning.
mdmonitor
Member
New Russian Fighter
Guys,
Got this off another list:
(AFP) -
MOSCOW - Russia on Friday unveiled a new fighter aircraft touted as a rival
of the US F-22 stealth jet and developed amid the highest secrecy as part of
a plan to modernize the armed forces.
The fifth generation fighter, manufactured by the Sukhoi company and known
as the PAK FA, made a maiden flight of just over 45 minutes at the firm's
home base of Komsomolsk-on-Amur in the Far East region.
"The flight lasted 47 minutes during which all the aircraft's systems were
tested. It was successful," Sukhoi spokeswoman Olga Kayukova told AFP. "This
is the first time it has been unveiled."
Pictures broadcast on state television showed the fighter jet -- which has
been kept closely under wraps for years -- flying at altitude and then
landing on a snow-surrounded runway.
"The aircraft performed well in all stages of the flight programme. It is
easy and comfortable to pilot," said Sergei Bogdan, the pilot for the
flight, in comments published on the Sukhoi website.
The new jet has the capability of carrying out long flights above the speed
of sound as well as simultaneously attacking different targets.
Russia is currently embarking on a major programme to re-equip its military,
not least the air force which is still using largely Soviet-era equipment
and suffers from frequent crashes.
The new fighter, which has been in development since the 1990s, is due to
enter the armed forces in 2015, Russian news agencies said.
The first flight of the PAK FA (Prospective Aviation System of Frontline
Aviation) is being seen in Russia as a major boost for the military after
the project was hit by repeated delays over the last years.
"There is no doubt that the plane is needed," the ex-commander of the
Russian air force, Anatoly Kornukov, told the Interfax news agency.
"Our Su-27 and MiG-29 planes are good but have aged. They are 20 or more
years old and it's time to have something as a replacement," he said.
He said the new plane could easily stand comparison with the US F-22, also a
fifth generation stealth fighter.
"It's going to be no worse than an F-22. I've been in an F-22 and I know."
Russia's campaign to modernize its military has been marred by repeated
setbacks with new equipment, above all a string of failed tests of its new
Bulava sea-based intercontinental nuclear-capable missile.
Guys,
Got this off another list:
(AFP) -
MOSCOW - Russia on Friday unveiled a new fighter aircraft touted as a rival
of the US F-22 stealth jet and developed amid the highest secrecy as part of
a plan to modernize the armed forces.
The fifth generation fighter, manufactured by the Sukhoi company and known
as the PAK FA, made a maiden flight of just over 45 minutes at the firm's
home base of Komsomolsk-on-Amur in the Far East region.
"The flight lasted 47 minutes during which all the aircraft's systems were
tested. It was successful," Sukhoi spokeswoman Olga Kayukova told AFP. "This
is the first time it has been unveiled."
Pictures broadcast on state television showed the fighter jet -- which has
been kept closely under wraps for years -- flying at altitude and then
landing on a snow-surrounded runway.
"The aircraft performed well in all stages of the flight programme. It is
easy and comfortable to pilot," said Sergei Bogdan, the pilot for the
flight, in comments published on the Sukhoi website.
The new jet has the capability of carrying out long flights above the speed
of sound as well as simultaneously attacking different targets.
Russia is currently embarking on a major programme to re-equip its military,
not least the air force which is still using largely Soviet-era equipment
and suffers from frequent crashes.
The new fighter, which has been in development since the 1990s, is due to
enter the armed forces in 2015, Russian news agencies said.
The first flight of the PAK FA (Prospective Aviation System of Frontline
Aviation) is being seen in Russia as a major boost for the military after
the project was hit by repeated delays over the last years.
"There is no doubt that the plane is needed," the ex-commander of the
Russian air force, Anatoly Kornukov, told the Interfax news agency.
"Our Su-27 and MiG-29 planes are good but have aged. They are 20 or more
years old and it's time to have something as a replacement," he said.
He said the new plane could easily stand comparison with the US F-22, also a
fifth generation stealth fighter.
"It's going to be no worse than an F-22. I've been in an F-22 and I know."
Russia's campaign to modernize its military has been marred by repeated
setbacks with new equipment, above all a string of failed tests of its new
Bulava sea-based intercontinental nuclear-capable missile.
TinEar
Member
Have you seen the story about the Russians finally unveiling their 5th generation fighter aircraft? They say it matches the F-22. It's called the SU T-50 or Sukhoi PAK-FA (СУХОЙ ПАК-ФА
.
There's already a YouTube video of it on its first flight: YouTube - Pak Fa (T-50) First Flight Full Video
Looks like we crossed in the ether Ron. I didn't see your message before posting this one.
.There's already a YouTube video of it on its first flight: YouTube - Pak Fa (T-50) First Flight Full Video
Looks like we crossed in the ether Ron. I didn't see your message before posting this one.
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mdmonitor
Member
Tin,Have you seen the story about the Russians finally unveiling their 5th generation fighter aircraft? They say it matches the F-22. It's called the SU T-50 or Sukhoi PAK-FA (СУХОЙ ПАК-ФА
There's already a YouTube video of it on its first flight: YouTube - Pak Fa (T-50) First Flight Full Video
Looks like we crossed in the ether Ron. I didn't see your message before posting this one.
No problem.. For something that's suppposed to rival the F-22 it sure doesn't look "stealthy" to me. Looks alot like the other Sukhoi ftrs and even a little like the Mig-29.
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mdmonitor
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Tacamo
Guys,
1328 EST- Fox 71 (sounds like-poss E-6B East Coast TACAMO)-depart PAX & check in w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
Guys,
1328 EST- Fox 71 (sounds like-poss E-6B East Coast TACAMO)-depart PAX & check in w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
In ref to the YouTube video, I thought it was a little strange that the landing gear was left down all through flight.
TinEar
Member
That was my impression too when I saw the video. It looked like a "cut and paste" job with parts of different aircraft glued together.
Waltz41
Member
Actually that's quite common among test aircraft. If I remember correctly, the first footage of the F-35 is like that as well. I assume it's because if it's never really been in the air before, if something goes wrong, at least the gear is already down. If they retract it, well,...it's one more thing that can go wrong first time up.
mdmonitor
Member
Logs, 29 Jan
ACY-Atlantic City NJ
ADW- Andrews AFB MD
BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
DAA- Davison AAF, Ft Belvoir VA
DCA- Reagan National Airport/CGAS Washington, Wash DC
DOV- Dover AFB DE
GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
LFI- Langley AFB VA
MTN-Martin State Airport, Baltimore
NGTF-Northrop-Grumman Test Facility, Baltimore
NXX- Willow Grove JRB PA
PAX-NAS Patuxent River MD
PTC- Potomac Area TRACON
WRI-McGuire AFB NJ
ZBW-Boston ARTCC
ZDC- Washington ARTCC
ZNY- New York ARTCC
1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EST))
0814- N24NG (Cessna 560 XL, NGTF)-check in w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
0854- Cando 02 (KC-10 84-0192 305th AMW McGuire AFB NJ)-w/GK (118.125) advising GK that ZDC has cleared them direct to Norfolk for AAR w/Jake 51 flt (F-22s, LFI) & T-bolt 61 flt (F-22s, 149th FS VA ANG LFI). Also checks into W386 (249.8)
0923- Tester 01 (F-18B, NTPS PAX) & Tester 12 (T-38C # 15-8200, NTPS PAX)-w/BW (256.5) in ACM evaluation flt.
0929- Navy JA 05 (P-3C # 160291, VSX-1 PAX)-w/PAX departure (121.0) then check in at FL 7000ft w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
0948- Devil 11 flt (4 X F-16s, 119th FS NJ ANG ACY)-w/ZDC Casino (285.4) then w/ZNY Lancaster (323.3 & 270.3) advising they are on way to Duke MOA. Also w/ZNY Phillipsburg (306.2) & ZNY Milton (269.1). Devil 14 follows several minutes later as a single-ship. Devils RTB'd to ACY via same route about 1 hour later.
0953- Army 053 (UC-35 00-1053, OSACOM ADW)-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1000- Jedi flt (F-22s LFI)-check into W386 (249.8). Also on sqdn discrete (228.45)
1010- Yankee 02 (C-21A, 118th FS/103rd FW CT ANG, Bradley ANGB CT)-land at PAX (127.95 & 123.7). Departs PAX at 1254.
1014- Reach 480-w/ZDC Cape Charles (132.55) climb to FL170.
1030- Navy 7A501 (UC-12, Base Flt PAX)-depart PAX (127.95) then w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1037- Nighthawk 2 & 3 (HMX-1 MCAF Quantico)-w/Pancho (unid) on HMX-1 discrete (273.95) advising they are 2 mins out. Might be related to POTUS visit to Baltimore this morning.
1052- Tester 962 (T-6A Texan II # 165962, NTPS PAX)-w/BW (354.8)
1055- Navy SD 402 (F-18E/F # 165533, VX-23 PAX)-check in w/ZDC Snow Hill (236.825) headed to ACY for some pattern work.
1112- Drago 51 flt (unid)-w/ZDC Montebello (284.7) requesting direct to their destination.
1208- PAT 618-check in w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1216- Salty Dog 305 (F-18 # 161709, VX-23 PAX)-w/BW (270.8) for RTB PAX.
1301- Score 80 (unid, VX-20 PAX) & an unid chase acft on BW discrete (355.8).
1328- Fox 71 (sounds like-poss E-6B East Coast TACAMO)-depart PAX & check in w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
NOTE: During POTUS visit I heard one xmission in clear (radio checks) on 165.2375 & some encrypted comms as well.
Ron (mdmonitor1@verizon.net)
Baltimore MD (390747N 763711W)
VHF/UHF: BC-895XLT/RS Pro-2045
Diamond D-130J discone
HF: Icom R75
45-ft PAR EF-SWL
ACY-Atlantic City NJ
ADW- Andrews AFB MD
BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
DAA- Davison AAF, Ft Belvoir VA
DCA- Reagan National Airport/CGAS Washington, Wash DC
DOV- Dover AFB DE
GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
LFI- Langley AFB VA
MTN-Martin State Airport, Baltimore
NGTF-Northrop-Grumman Test Facility, Baltimore
NXX- Willow Grove JRB PA
PAX-NAS Patuxent River MD
PTC- Potomac Area TRACON
WRI-McGuire AFB NJ
ZBW-Boston ARTCC
ZDC- Washington ARTCC
ZNY- New York ARTCC
1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EST))
0814- N24NG (Cessna 560 XL, NGTF)-check in w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
0854- Cando 02 (KC-10 84-0192 305th AMW McGuire AFB NJ)-w/GK (118.125) advising GK that ZDC has cleared them direct to Norfolk for AAR w/Jake 51 flt (F-22s, LFI) & T-bolt 61 flt (F-22s, 149th FS VA ANG LFI). Also checks into W386 (249.8)
0923- Tester 01 (F-18B, NTPS PAX) & Tester 12 (T-38C # 15-8200, NTPS PAX)-w/BW (256.5) in ACM evaluation flt.
0929- Navy JA 05 (P-3C # 160291, VSX-1 PAX)-w/PAX departure (121.0) then check in at FL 7000ft w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
0948- Devil 11 flt (4 X F-16s, 119th FS NJ ANG ACY)-w/ZDC Casino (285.4) then w/ZNY Lancaster (323.3 & 270.3) advising they are on way to Duke MOA. Also w/ZNY Phillipsburg (306.2) & ZNY Milton (269.1). Devil 14 follows several minutes later as a single-ship. Devils RTB'd to ACY via same route about 1 hour later.
0953- Army 053 (UC-35 00-1053, OSACOM ADW)-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1000- Jedi flt (F-22s LFI)-check into W386 (249.8). Also on sqdn discrete (228.45)
1010- Yankee 02 (C-21A, 118th FS/103rd FW CT ANG, Bradley ANGB CT)-land at PAX (127.95 & 123.7). Departs PAX at 1254.
1014- Reach 480-w/ZDC Cape Charles (132.55) climb to FL170.
1030- Navy 7A501 (UC-12, Base Flt PAX)-depart PAX (127.95) then w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1037- Nighthawk 2 & 3 (HMX-1 MCAF Quantico)-w/Pancho (unid) on HMX-1 discrete (273.95) advising they are 2 mins out. Might be related to POTUS visit to Baltimore this morning.
1052- Tester 962 (T-6A Texan II # 165962, NTPS PAX)-w/BW (354.8)
1055- Navy SD 402 (F-18E/F # 165533, VX-23 PAX)-check in w/ZDC Snow Hill (236.825) headed to ACY for some pattern work.
1112- Drago 51 flt (unid)-w/ZDC Montebello (284.7) requesting direct to their destination.
1208- PAT 618-check in w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1216- Salty Dog 305 (F-18 # 161709, VX-23 PAX)-w/BW (270.8) for RTB PAX.
1301- Score 80 (unid, VX-20 PAX) & an unid chase acft on BW discrete (355.8).
1328- Fox 71 (sounds like-poss E-6B East Coast TACAMO)-depart PAX & check in w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
NOTE: During POTUS visit I heard one xmission in clear (radio checks) on 165.2375 & some encrypted comms as well.
Ron (mdmonitor1@verizon.net)
Baltimore MD (390747N 763711W)
VHF/UHF: BC-895XLT/RS Pro-2045
Diamond D-130J discone
HF: Icom R75
45-ft PAR EF-SWL
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E-4B 74-0787 is inbound from the west. Showing FIXIT40, but actually FLUM or THUMB?-62 with ATC. 119.85>124.7
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